Improbable Lobster posted:

why does every -punk setting always forget about the punk part

SavageMessiah posted:

Music artists such as Lana Del Rey,[4] Azealia Banks,[5] Marina & The Diamonds, Charli XCX,[6] Sky Ferreira,[7] Swim Deep,[8] Citizen and Basement all fall into the Soft Grunge, Pastel Goth, Pastel Grunge or Seapunk genre.


~*Pastel Goth*~

Suspicious Dish posted:

The term "seapunk" was coined by DJ Lil Internet in 2011 who wrote the first reference on Twitter.[3]

uncurable mlady posted:

this is ironic, right, people are making fun of people with this whole soft grunge/seapunk/whatever the gently caress

right?

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

e: do not post before awake

Parahexavoctal posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talossan_language

Soricidus posted:

The word "Talossa" itself is not Romance, but Finnic in origin: it comes from the Finnish word for "inside the house" (Talossa began in Madison's bedroom).

holy poo poo

SavageMessiah posted:

lmbo a bunch fuckin retards claiming random places as their own is not a loving micronation wikipedia jfc

Install Windows posted:

uh thats exactly what a fuckin micronation is.

when they have actual territory recognized as sovereign they stop being micronations.

SavageMessiah posted:

I mean usually these places are in international waters and not random chunks of sovereign territory

or maybe I'm dumb

Install Windows posted:

the only one that has any sort of "real" territory is sealand... but that's within UK territorial waters and the UK government considers it to be wholly part of the uk. and even then the people who own sealand's offshore rig thing don't live there, they live in london.

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In August 1978, while Bates and his wife were in England, Alexander Achenbach, who describes himself as the Prime Minister of Sealand, hired several German and Dutch mercenaries to spearhead an attack on Sealand.[19] They stormed the platform with speedboats, jet skis and helicopters, and took Bates' son hostage who stayed at Sealand while his mother and father were away in England. Bates' son was able to retake the platform and capture Achenbach and the mercenaries. Achenbach, a German lawyer who held a Sealand passport, was charged with treason against Sealand[19] and was held unless he paid DM 75,000 (more than US$35,000 or £23,000).[20] The governments of the Netherlands, Austria and Germany petitioned the British government for his release, but the United Kingdom disavowed his imprisonment, citing the 1968 court decision.[1] Germany then sent a diplomat from its London embassy to Sealand to negotiate for Achenbach's release. Roy Bates relented after several weeks of negotiations and subsequently claimed that the diplomat's visit constituted de facto recognition of Sealand by Germany.[19]

Parahexavoctal posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talossan_language

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Government

Talossa is a constitutional monarchy. It has a Prime Minister and cabinet, a monarch, and a bicameral legislature called the Ziu (lower house is called the Cosa and the upper house, the Senäts), in many respects organized like an ordinary nation, with laws, government institutions, and so on. Members are considered "citizens" and have historically been admitted through a formal "immigration" process.
Parties

Like most governmental nations, Talossa has parties.[7] They create policy and submit bills for consideration in the Ziu, the legislature. The current government coalition includes the Moderate Radical Party of Talossa and the Defenders of Talossan Republicanism, while the only opposition party is the RUMP. The laws are governed by a supreme law, the 1997 Organic Law, which is the current basis of all civil rights and governance.

Culture

Talossa, like other nations, has a culture. Many agree that the language is the most expansive part of the culture, although other aspects (such as an emphasis on science fiction) have also been prominent in the past. Wargaming is the national pastime and even has a holiday.

Modern Talossan culture even has an effect on politics: two popular strains of thought in Talossa about the nature of the group - is it a "real" country (derivativism) or is it something new (peculiarism) - are represented by different political parties and compete to promote their views.

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Ethnic groups
Melting Pot but has a mythical Berber heritage

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Schisms

As a result of a vendetta against another Talossan citizen, it being an attempt to throw said citizen out of the Kingdom, a significant number of active members of the Kingdom created a separate Republic of Talossa on 1 June 2004.[12][13] As of 2011, the group claimed about 16 members.[12] The population of the republic was 18 when it voted to rejoin the kingdom.

Ben Madison remained on the throne of the Kingdom of Talossa until August 2005, when, after a dispute about immigration procedures,[14] he abdicated in favour of his wife's eight-year-old grandson, who assumed the throne as King Louis I.[13]

King Louis I abdicated his position in November 2006, and was succeeded by John W. Woolley, elected (per the procedures of Talossa's constitution, the 1997 Organic Law) as King John on 14 March 2007 and is still monarch (as of 2012).[13] While Talossa still and will always claim to be based in Milwaukee, its Website states that "today most of our active citizens live in other parts of the United States and Canada, Europe, South America, Asia, and Africa".[15]

Intermittently from 2007 until 2011, Madison disputed the claim of historical continuity made by the Kingdom of Talossa, and reorganized a separate Kingdom with a new Constitution. According to its website, it was ruled by King Louis, with Ben Madison acting as Prime Minister.[16][17] The group officially disbanded in 2011.

In December 2011, representatives of the Republic and the Kingdom agreed that the two groups will reunite under the Kingdom banner in 2012, once again becoming a single micronation. A referendum was sent out in the republic on March 29, 2012 concerning the "Reunision" (as the reunion is known). The results were published on April 5, 2012. Thirteen out of the republic's eighteen citizens voted: ten in favor, three in abstention, and zero against. The republic formally dissolved on April 19, 2012, and its citizens who wished were made citizens of the Kingdom. The readmission of the republic resulted in the creation of an eighth province, Fiôvâ, from a western portion of Maritiimi-Maxhestic Province, and a southern portion of Maricopa Province.

At this point in time, with the closure of the Madison group and return of the Republic group, there is a single and undisputed Talossa.

FrozenVent posted:

sort of, sealand was founded before the UN went to 12 miles territorial waters; it was 3 miles back then internationally

iirc UK courts have upheld that sealand is outside of UK territory because of that but of course the government is not going to recognize them diplomatically

EMILY BLUNTS posted:

Sealand is not recognized by any major international sporting body, and its population is insufficient to maintain a team composed entirely of Sealanders in any team sport. However, Sealand claims to have official national athletes, including non-Sealanders. These athletes take part in various sports, such as curling, mini-golf, football, fencing, ultimate frisbee, table football and athletics, although all its teams compete out of the country

Install Windows posted:

it was within the exclusive economic zone of the uk and it was also formerly a manned uk military installation and thus british territory. also, the sealand dudes have no authority to declare their own territorial waters.

also the uk courts upheld that it wasn't part of great britain, but that's not the same as not being uk territory.

haveblue posted:

if you thought seapunk was fun look up normcore

haveblue posted:

if you thought seapunk was fun look up normcore

syscall girl posted: