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Jabari workout video is up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU
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May 25, 2014 18:21
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My disappointment in not getting #1 is fading after seeing more and more good things coming from Parker and Embiid. I've known how good those guys are for the entire season but between Embiid's back and Parker's defense I had fallen in love with Andrew Wiggins. Truth be told, I really think there are 3 superstars in this draft and the fact that the Sixers got into the top 3 (which in reality was only roughly a 50/50 chance) is reason to be happy enough. I can't wait until next month.
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May 25, 2014 18:22
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Tae posted:This is honestly my first time seeing him, wow that's definitely a reason to be a top 3 pick. That's a really smooth jumper. The fun thing watching him last year was seeing him improve week to week. Like if hosed while being double teamed, within a game or two he would be ready for it and make the right pass out of it. I seriously can't say I've seen a guy who clearly improved as quickly and noticeably as he did last year. EDIT: quote:chadfordinsider Chad Ford The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 25, 2014 |
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May 25, 2014 20:59
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WEREWAIF posted:Thanasis Antetokounmpo and PJ Hairston are intriguing at 38. What do yall say? Hariston probably won't last that long and why do you want the older, smaller, shittier Antetokoumpo brother?
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May 25, 2014 21:46
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MourningView posted:Hariston probably won't last that long and why do you want the older, smaller, shittier Antetokoumpo brother? Cool name
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May 25, 2014 21:49
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Embiid and wiggins look like a lock for 1-2. Their physical abilities at 19 are scary.
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May 25, 2014 21:50
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Still waiting for Declan bios on the top players. Come on Declan.
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May 25, 2014 21:52
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For some real dunk porn, watch Embiid's high school mixtape here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0nxBm5TaI0 Compare his jumpshot/post motions from the draft workout vs. high school mixtape. Insane how much smoother his shot/moves are now, but the athleticism is the same. He throws down a ton of Dwight Howard throw-the-ball-in-from-above dunks.
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May 25, 2014 22:41
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It looks like he's dunking on an eight foot rim.
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May 25, 2014 22:43
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euphronius posted:Still waiting for Declan bios on the top players. Come on Declan. I have Tuesday off, I'll do them then, be prepared for a lot of 'oh man so amazing wow such basketball very upside' in a lot of different ways
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May 26, 2014 00:47
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Chad Ford tweeted out the measurements for Embiid/Wiggins/Parker: Embiid: 7' 1" in shoes, 7' 5.75" wingspan, 9' 5.5" standing reach. Wiggins: 6' 8.75" in shoes, 7' 0" wingspan, 8" 11" standing reach. Parker: 6' 9" in shoes, 6' 11.75" wingspan, 8' 11.5" standing reach. They must be wearing Cole Aldrich shoes because each of them is an inch or two taller than I expected. Just compare the Wiggins measurements to Randle from the combine: Randle: 6'7.75" w/o shoes, 6'9" w/ shoes, 7'0" wingspan, 8'9.5" standing reach. For further reference--Embiid's numbers are about the same as Brook Lopez's, a bit better than Tyson Chandler's, and a few inches (between wingspan/height) better than both Oden/Noah. For Wiggins, assuming Ford's numbers are correct, consider this: (EDIT) I'm a dummy and can't read the measurements (END EDIT) bearic fucked around with this message at 03:10 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 02:30
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That's nuts for Wiggins. Those must be lifts or something.
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May 26, 2014 02:33
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Declan MacManus posted:That's nuts for Wiggins. Those must be lifts or something. bearic fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 02:44
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vegaji posted:There are no players in the DraftExpress database with a 7' wingspan who are under 6'9" with shoes. This can't be right. Leonard is 6'7" and has 7'3" wingspan.
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May 26, 2014 03:01
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Robert Covington is like 6'6" and has a 7'1" wingspan.
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May 26, 2014 03:05
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poo poo, you're both right, I was misreading the info really really horribly. My bad!
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May 26, 2014 03:06
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i really want to see the wiggins workout
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May 26, 2014 03:08
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Embiid in real shoes is probably closer to 7' than 7'1, but he's got a 7'6 wingspan and is now 265 of muscle, so that's insane. I've been an ardent Wiggins proponent but you almost can't pass up Embiid at #1 with those measurements (not to mention everything else he brings to the table). That length combined with the athleticism, it really does look like Embiid's practising on an 8 foot hoop. Totally different point: Anthony Bennett has consistently measured 6'7 in shoes but is billed by ESPN and a few other places at 6'8. I'm inclined to think he's 6'7, is there any proof he's taller than that? Poor Bennett. Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 05:29 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 05:21
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Basically everyone except Kevin Garnett is listed as taller than they actually are.
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May 26, 2014 09:13
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Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy? Keep in mind I never watched Parker play before this video and I only saw Embiid play for about 5 minutes in some random Kansas game months and months ago
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May 26, 2014 09:44
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BIZORT posted:Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy? He looked pretty square though, and didn't move that well laterally. Maybe that's just the low angle though.
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May 26, 2014 09:57
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BIZORT posted:Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy? He was nominally a power forward but did most of his scoring from the perimeter, yeah. He started the college season off absolutely on fire from three, then cooled way down at the start of conference play, and then heated up a little bit towards the end of the year. He is also pretty good at catching the ball on the block and either facing up to blow by slower guys or punishing smaller guys with his post game. Scoring will probably not be an issue.
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May 26, 2014 16:54
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No no no. gently caress off Philly paperPhilly Inquirer posted:Here's a prediction: The 76ers will pick a big man with their third overall draft selection if Jabari Parker and Andrew Wiggins are gone.
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May 26, 2014 17:14
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Jabari workout video is up. That looked really nice too. Fluid rear end jumper. I'm gonna be legit excited whoever the Sixers get. Quest For Glory II posted:No no no. gently caress off Philly paper Ha, except for that. I think it's like lovely GM PTSD
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May 26, 2014 17:19
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Quest For Glory II posted:No no no. gently caress off Philly paper I want Philly to end up with Embiid and Saric. I really want to see Embiid and Noel play together.
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May 26, 2014 17:28
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Would Embiid be able to work as a 4 if the team drafting him already had a traditional center? Because if the Cavs are dumb enough to give us their pick for Love I'm curious about if he'd be on their radar for the pick.
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May 26, 2014 17:38
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BIZORT posted:Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy? The problem is that the workout video doesn't show defense which is Parker's weakness. He's an offensive machine.
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May 26, 2014 17:57
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IcePhoenix posted:Would Embiid be able to work as a 4 if the team drafting him already had a traditional center? He probably could, but why would you waste a potentially great player at a scarce position that way
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May 26, 2014 18:00
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kiimo posted:The problem is that the workout video doesn't show defense which is Parker's weakness. He's an offensive machine. I'm not trying to get defensive at all over the videos but Embiid's shows him doing the Mikan drill, shooting a couple of very flat 15 footers, and basically just dunking beyond that. Parker's has a lot of dunking too but he shows a lot of quickness and shooting range, along with some good iso moves. I just don't really see what people are drooling over with that Embiid video. I'm not saying he's not any good or anything like that; I have almost nothing to go off of to make that claim. I just haven't seen the proof yet. He's quicker than most but he does look a bit mechanical, too
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May 26, 2014 18:23
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IcePhoenix posted:Would Embiid be able to work as a 4 if the team drafting him already had a traditional center? Just throw away your existing center and go with Embiid. Chances are he'll be in foul trouble his entire first year anyway so there might not even be a minutes problem.
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May 26, 2014 18:24
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Was hoping they had a Wiggins video, he's been NBA-smooth since 17 and I want to see how much he's improved. They got this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1cxcDSzDB0 Good that he has a little range. A whole lot of it looks like things that should never be happening in an NBA game but that's impressive size. What's his deal, did he stagnate this season?
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May 26, 2014 19:05
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He actually got worse last year but he's always been pretty bad. He's a huge wuss who wants to stand around jacking up jumpers even though he is 7 feet tall and not especially great at shooting jumpers. He's averaged like 5 rebounds a game last year. His hype was all projection based on his size and ability to dribble at a vaguely competent level for someone that big, but he never actually gave any signs of living up to it.
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May 26, 2014 19:38
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7 footers moving usually looks like this http://youtu.be/KyADXpenxzU
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May 26, 2014 19:56
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WEREWAIF posted:He probably could, but why would you waste a potentially great player at a scarce position that way It worked for Tim Duncan chunkles posted:Just throw away your existing center and go with Embiid. I don't think I could put into words how horrified I was at Pek's contract when we re-signed him
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May 26, 2014 20:13
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IcePhoenix posted:
Pekovic is really good. He's an 18/9 guy and he makes what, 12m? It's reasonable.
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May 26, 2014 20:27
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roundmidnight posted:Pekovic is really good. He's an 18/9 guy and he makes what, 12m? It's reasonable. Isn't the bigger problem that Pek and Love aren't a good defensive combination for the TWolves starting big men?
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May 26, 2014 20:38
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Yes. They lack rim protection. Dieng looked really good over the last quarter of the season, though. It should mean they lose less close games next year, at least if he keeps it up.
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May 26, 2014 21:02
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roundmidnight posted:Pekovic is really good. He's an 18/9 guy and he makes what, 12m? It's reasonable. He also only plays in like 50 games a season and doesn't play defense. I like Pek, a lot actually, I just think he's way overpaid.
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May 26, 2014 21:03
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Im getting on board with Stauskas. I think he could be a great piece ala late Ray Allen, current Redick.
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May 27, 2014 00:22
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IcePhoenix posted:He also only plays in like 50 games a season and doesn't play defense. I think you should go look at what people who are over 6'9" make and then look at what they can make if they can average more than two field goals a game.
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