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Mr Dog posted:bsd are you in the most literal possible sense a greybeard not yet
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May 27, 2014 21:01
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:there are still several linux magazines published in tyool 2014 didn't read this entire thread. are these magazines just pages and pages of "use the search noob, this has already been answered"
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May 27, 2014 21:05
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killhamster posted:didn't read this entire thread. are these magazines just pages and pages of "use the search noob, this has already been answered" they are mostly linux kernel mailing list drama people magazine, for beards beards magazine?
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May 27, 2014 21:08
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:so you consider it a virtue that brew can't manage system packages or patchsets? lol yeah b/c apple does a better job than u or i can + mac app store infrastructure handles system updates i would rather carve out my little dev env and then use vagrant/chef/puppet/ps DSC to set up a server with what i need tyvm
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May 27, 2014 21:12
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Mr Dog posted:bsd are you in the most literal possible sense a greybeard greybeard implies some sort of competence cloaked in knowing condescension bsd displays neither
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May 27, 2014 21:13
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That's not true. There's certainly a lot of condescension from Mr. b.s.d.
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May 27, 2014 21:16
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Suspicious Dish posted:That's not true. There's certainly a lot of condescension from Mr. b.s.d. it was more the "knowing" part
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May 27, 2014 21:21
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i like to use gnome 3, a lot.
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May 27, 2014 21:50
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Smythe posted:i like to use gnome 3, a lot.
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May 27, 2014 22:22
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:beards magazine? sounds smexy
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May 27, 2014 22:23
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yay wine 1.7.20 is delayed to the 13th.. Friday. huge code merge, hopefully fri 13th curse doesn't strike.
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May 27, 2014 23:06
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Malcolm XML posted:greybeard implies some sort of competence cloaked in knowing condescension a broader survey of yospos might disagree. but the only people who click on "year of linux on the desktop" are osx fanboys who want to jerk around the yos' last handful of linux users yeah i just pulled a nixon w/ silent majority, deal with it
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May 27, 2014 23:08
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puppetmaster defense is on deck, watch for me to ardently defend osx's blisteringly awful 80s architecture
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May 27, 2014 23:08
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just a reminder quartz x11 support is so lovely, we use custom wrappers to Quartz. x11.app terrible FYI, xquartz is passable.
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May 27, 2014 23:15
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bsd is for those who love unix linux us for those who hate microsoft
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May 27, 2014 23:36
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a broader survey of yospos might disagree. but the only people who click on "year of linux on the desktop" are osx fanboys who want to jerk around the yos' last handful of linux users I have never used OS X in my life.
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May 27, 2014 23:38
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gregday posted:bsd is for those who love unix
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May 27, 2014 23:45
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is this a good time to say stfu
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May 27, 2014 23:46
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theadder posted:is this a good time to say stfu Any time is a good time to say STFU.
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May 27, 2014 23:47
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X is going to be replaced by Wayland in Q3 2014.
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May 28, 2014 00:30
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i'm really bummed to keep hearing how bad X11.app is, it breaks my heart to think that i'll miss out on all those killer apps such as
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May 28, 2014 00:58
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penus de milo posted:i'm really bummed to keep hearing how bad X11.app is, it breaks my heart to think that i'll miss out on all those killer apps such as xeyes or take your pick of whatever $280,000 a seat license automotive engineering specialty 3d cad software
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May 28, 2014 01:00
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isn't xquartz ok? x has all the good TeX editors i thought
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May 28, 2014 01:30
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the bsds are very behind the times when it comes to technology needed to support a desktop stack that still integrates nicely with a unix platform (as opposed to air-dropping some alien skyscraper into the middle of a pristine landscape like osx did with quartz and all their non-FHS objective-C plist poo poo). they're not even particularly unified seeing as the bsd landscape is balkanised all to hell. openbsd has an admirable security record going for them and that's about it but i guess that's what happens when you spend more time wishing you could get plowed from behind by apple and other randian captains of industry and talking about how the gpl = communism than delivering decent engineering solutions
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May 28, 2014 02:03
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Suspicious Dish posted:I have the opposite experience on Windows. Skype is constantly blinking at me and I can never get the little "1" indicator to go away. Steam always has some form of weird progress bar overlay in the icon on W7, and I can't ever figure out how to get it to just go back to a normal icon. 
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May 28, 2014 02:43
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theadder posted:the prince of posix modsplease
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May 28, 2014 02:44
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:i have a thinkpad with an NVidia Quadro K2000M and intel integrated graphics. under windows the laptop uses NVidia Optimus to switch between video cards based on demand (e.g. run games with nvidia and firefox with intel) i used bumblebee at one point but it mostly didnt seem to work
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May 28, 2014 02:48
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Sniep posted:xeyes very much this, for whatever reason the more you pay for your software the worse the ux gets. super high end cad software is nightmarishly cruel to users
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May 28, 2014 02:52
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Bloody posted:very much this, for whatever reason the more you pay for your software the worse the ux gets. super high end cad software is nightmarishly cruel to users funny thing about it is you really can do amazing poo poo through X windows its just that nobody does im talking directly to you whoever wrote that MUX management software.. fujitsu? i think it was a flashwave or something that had some X management software and it was pretty gross... maybe it wasnt i cant remember the specific app. lucent too and name X but yeah those auto cad programs were insane, and functional as hell, buggy as hell, and expensive as hell. but at least they were pretty e: i'm talking 1999/2000 era here
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May 28, 2014 03:31
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Mr Dog posted:openbsd has an admirable security record going for them and that's about it openbsd has a neat record but they are terribly out of date. they deny that modern (i.e. 1990s) security technology has any merit. "just fix the bugs!!!!!" lol @ not having a mac framework in tyool 2014
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May 28, 2014 04:28
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Bloody posted:very much this, for whatever reason the more you pay for your software the worse the ux gets. super high end cad software is nightmarishly cruel to users it's because the more expensive the package, the less likely it is that purchasers are actual users
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May 28, 2014 04:29
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Mr Dog posted:the bsds are very behind the times when it comes to technology needed to support a desktop stack that still integrates nicely with a unix platform (as opposed to air-dropping some alien skyscraper into the middle of a pristine landscape like osx did with quartz and all their non-FHS objective-C plist poo poo). 
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May 28, 2014 04:32
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol @ not having a mac in tyool 2014 agreed
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May 28, 2014 06:42
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Wats ur night job ?
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May 28, 2014 08:39
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X11 is piss brew is nice bsd is a garbage clown poster who holds on to old lovely standards like the Debian processes and X11 because if they become irrelevant than so does he
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May 28, 2014 10:01
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Sassafras posted:I'm gonna de-lurk long enough to say that as another full time Linux guy, after the GNOME 3 disaster I finally got suckered into buying Apple due to the "OSX, it's still unix but a decent desktop environment" myth. Decent hardware, but every point release is a driver crapshoot and of course I can't go in and fix them myself. I'm in Linux VMs if I want to do anything more complicated than surf the web or watch movies. gnome 3 is great hope this helps
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May 28, 2014 11:12
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Gnome 3 owns, Unity is like a poo poo version of Gnome 3, and everything else is literally stone age idiot garbage
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May 28, 2014 12:39
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Fib posted:stone age idiot garbage you can just say "linux"
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