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Yeah, I don't think of 52 as one since it's mostly self-contained and not line-wide, but it's a good call in any case.
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I liked a lot of the stuff in the 52 era. Infinite Crisis was pretty good. Identity Crisis is bad overall, but has some cool character moments. At least for the ones that stayed in-character. And yeah, 52 ruled. I can't remember if I liked OMAC Project. I think I did?
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May 28, 2014 17:09
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The thing that made that era for DC so good (and we may be looking at it through rose-tinted glasses but still) is that you had Rucka, Morrison, peak-Johns, and Waid driving the direction of the characters. DC actually let their talent do interesting stuff without much editorial interference (which is what pissed off Didio about 52 which told a story he didn't want told).
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May 28, 2014 17:32
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Opopanax posted:Yeah but it's vvvveeerrryyyy morrison so read it, then read a companion, then read it a few more times. I didn't like it at all when I first read it and now it's one of my favorite books. I didn't like it all and I still don't, but unlike the asker I'm not much on Morrison anyway. You shouldn't shy away from reading another era's comics just because continuity has changed since then. You're not really reading them to get a better understanding of the continuity anyway, you just want a good story.
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May 28, 2014 21:33
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This conversation has me thinking about eras in comics. What's your favorite publisher specific era in comics? Like a snapshot of one universe where you think everything just clicked. For nostalgic purposes I guess mine is 2000s DC. When I was just eating, sleeping and breathing comics. That was a very flawed time that led to a lot of the bullshit we're dealing with now, but there was a lot of good around then. I don't think publisher spanning crossovers have been better than they were then. But as I get older more and more comics I'm reading come from 80s DC, which I think is my real favorite. Doom Patrol, Animal Man, JLI, Dark Knight Returns, Man of Steel, New Teen Titans. So many cool and experimental things were going on. Crisis was such a huge shift that there was no status quo and writers seemed able to do whatever they wanted. Imagine if the flagship Justice League book today were anything like JLI. And the art talent at the time was incredible. People were drawing really naturalistic forms that were still super colorful and comic book-y. No one was too jacked and only a couple guys wore street clothes and long coats.
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May 28, 2014 23:43
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Dumb question and continuity related: I've worked through the recent Avengers, New Avengers, and Infinity on Marvel Unlimited. Now I'm working on GotG, and how the gently caress is Tony Stark everywhere at the same goddamn time. Did I forget something from New Avengers/Avengers where he mentioned that he was gonna peace out to space for a while and chill with the Guardians? I mean I'm enjoying the book and all but its kind of confusing.
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May 29, 2014 05:31
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There are some throw away lines were the Iron Man suit in Avengers is a suit he is controlling by remote from space. It's really not worth it to over think all these things. How is Wolverine on all these different teams? Comic books, doesn't really matter.
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May 29, 2014 05:35
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Sturm posted:There are some throw away lines were the Iron Man suit in Avengers is a suit he is controlling by remote from space. It's really not worth it to over think all these things. How is Wolverine on all these different teams? Comic books, doesn't really matter. I like that answer. Thanks.
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May 29, 2014 05:39
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Did Fraction leave FF/F4 on good terms and how do the series maintain after he's gone?
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May 29, 2014 23:31
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zoux posted:Did Fraction leave FF/F4 on good terms and how do the series maintain after he's gone?
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May 29, 2014 23:34
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What I'm reading at the moment is the Iron Man by David Michelinie, Bob Layton and John Romita, Jr. omnibus; I'm about three-quarters of the way through. It's a bit odd that this is a massively acclaimed run (and I think it deserves the recongition) which introduced a lot of pretty big components of the Iron Man mythos - Rhodey, Hammer, Bethany Cabe, Tony Stark's drinking problem, his rivalry with Dr Doom, even his friendship with Bruce Banner to an extent - and yet the Mandarin hasn't been in it once. As far as I'm aware, he didn't appear in the subsequent Dennis O'Neil run either; Obadiah Stane was the main villain in that one, nor the second Michelinie/Layton run. Was the character dead during the 1980s? What was his last appearance before 1978, when they started writing the book? When did he come back? Also (and this is only very loosely related), there's one panel where a girl describes Tony Stark as "cuter than Ed Asner" - was Ed Asner a sex symbol in 1981?
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May 30, 2014 00:16
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Ed Asner was already super old in 1981. http://www.amazon.com/Guide-April-11-17-Asner-Grant/dp/B002MOF97Q
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May 30, 2014 00:19
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Metal Loaf posted:What I'm reading at the moment is the Iron Man by David Michelinie, Bob Layton and John Romita, Jr. omnibus; I'm about three-quarters of the way through. It's a bit odd that this is a massively acclaimed run (and I think it deserves the recongition) which introduced a lot of pretty big components of the Iron Man mythos - Rhodey, Hammer, Bethany Cabe, Tony Stark's drinking problem, his rivalry with Dr Doom, even his friendship with Bruce Banner to an extent - and yet the Mandarin hasn't been in it once. As far as I'm aware, he didn't appear in the subsequent Dennis O'Neil run either; Obadiah Stane was the main villain in that one, nor the second Michelinie/Layton run. The Mandarin was not a big deal during the '80s -- they spent a lot more time with businessman enemies like Justin Hammer and Obadiah Stane. I have a theory that he's only back now because he's kind of Iron Man's only biggish-name supervillain enemy. Justin Hammer fought him by funding much lower-powered tech villains like Beetle and the Melter, while Stane was really about pushing Tony all the way into the gutter. The other big Iron Man enemies (and the guys who could go toe-to-toe with IM in a fight) were Soviets, and that's not really a going concern these days.
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May 30, 2014 00:21
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Does Thanos do anything between the end of his 04 Series and the beginning of Annihlation?
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May 30, 2014 02:50
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zoux posted:Does Thanos do anything between the end of his 04 Series and the beginning of Annihlation? I don't think so. When was Marvel Universe the End published?
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May 30, 2014 03:23
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Rhyno posted:I don't think so. When was Marvel Universe the End published? 2003
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May 30, 2014 03:26
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Ok cool. I just read the Thanos series and the three Inhumans series before embarking on my great quest to read all of cosmic Marvel through Thanos Imperative. Wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.
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May 30, 2014 03:34
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zoux posted:Ok cool. I just read the Thanos series and the three Inhumans series before embarking on my great quest to read all of cosmic Marvel through Thanos Imperative. Wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. Here you go 
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May 30, 2014 04:10
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Ultimate doesn't have the WoK Warriors books for some reason, and I've heard the Skarr stuff is skippable. They've had Kingbreaker 2 & 4 forever but just added 1&3, which is what prompted me to read this stuff.
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May 30, 2014 04:30
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WoK is mostly garbage anyways, unless you're really interested in the Shi-ar and Summers family for some reason.
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May 30, 2014 05:40
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Opopanax posted:Here you go Is "cosmic marvel" a thing that only encompasses '04 and later comics with those characters? Because Thanos, galactus, silver surfer, etc. has been around since at least like the 1970s. I mean, I was introduced to Thanos via the Dreadstar comics. So I'm wondering if Dreadstar is considered "cosmic marvel"? How about Captain Marvel, Warlock, etc.?
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May 30, 2014 08:48
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Leperflesh posted:Is "cosmic marvel" a thing that only encompasses '04 and later comics with those characters? Because Thanos, galactus, silver surfer, etc. has been around since at least like the 1970s. I think "cosmic Marvel" gets those dates because they weren't doing very much with the cosmic characters for the previous ten-plus years. It had become an ignored part of the Marvel universe, so it was pretty awesome when they showed up again.
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May 30, 2014 10:08
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For most of the 1980s and 1990s cosmic Marvel was almost exclusively the purview of Jim Starlin (who'd been at almost since the start of his career).
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May 30, 2014 10:14
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Annihilation was kind of a huge thing that breathed new life into the cosmic stuff, too. That's more what that chart is based off
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Opopanax posted:Annihilation was kind of a huge thing that breathed new life into the cosmic stuff, too. That's more what that chart is based off It was also sort of a soft reboot since they could make any changes they wanted to by just blaming the war.
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May 30, 2014 13:07
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Opopanax posted:Here you go I just noticed this, but it uses "may be read" in the entire thing suggesting that you can read them in different orders, like reading Annihilation #3 followed by War of Kings #1 then Annihilation: Conquest #5.
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Endless Mike posted:I just noticed this, but it uses "may be read" in the entire thing suggesting that you can read them in different orders, like reading Annihilation #3 followed by War of Kings #1 then Annihilation: Conquest #5. Except that it doesn't? Each column is it's own section.
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May 30, 2014 15:23
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Rhyno posted:Except that it doesn't? Each column is it's own section. Okay, fine, but if you limit it to each column, it is still saying you could read, say, War of Kings #3-6 followed by War of Kings #1-2 because the word "may" implies an option. It's just a minor personal annoyance and I get what it's trying to say and no one is actually going to do that.
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May 30, 2014 16:10
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Endless Mike posted:Okay, fine, but if you limit it to each column, it is still saying you could read, say, War of Kings #3-6 followed by War of Kings #1-2 because the word "may" implies an option. It's just a minor personal annoyance and I get what it's trying to say and no one is actually going to do that. You can. You shouldn't, but the JPEG cannot stop you.
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May 30, 2014 16:15
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Hey it's just a laid bag jpeg man, it's not trying to lay any harsh rules on ya, read what ya want.
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May 30, 2014 16:17
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Endless Mike posted:Okay, fine, but if you limit it to each column, it is still saying you could read, say, War of Kings #3-6 followed by War of Kings #1-2 because the word "may" implies an option. It's just a minor personal annoyance and I get what it's trying to say and no one is actually going to do that. The dividing lines are clearly there to show you which groups of books can be read in any order. Come on man, you're one of the better posters here and you're just being silly.
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May 30, 2014 18:18
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Endless Mike posted:Okay, fine, but if you limit it to each column, it is still saying you could read, say, War of Kings #3-6 followed by War of Kings #1-2 because the word "may" implies an option. It's just a minor personal annoyance and I get what it's trying to say and no one is actually going to do that. I never let any stinking reading orders tell me what order to read my comics.
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May 30, 2014 20:59
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Rhyno posted:The dividing lines are clearly there to show you which groups of books can be read in any order. Come on man, you're one of the better posters here and you're just being silly.
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Leperflesh posted:Is "cosmic marvel" a thing that only encompasses '04 and later comics with those characters? Because Thanos, galactus, silver surfer, etc. has been around since at least like the 1970s. I mean, I was introduced to Thanos via the Dreadstar comics. So I'm wondering if Dreadstar is considered "cosmic marvel"? How about Captain Marvel, Warlock, etc.? As for Dreadstar, that was a creator-owned book by Jim Starlin that didn't take place in the Marvel Universe and (to my knowledge) never featured Thanos. There was a big square jawed beetle-browed bad guy named Lord Papal(who vaguely resembled Thanos and Mongul, who is also Starlin-designed) maybe you're thinking of him?
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May 31, 2014 02:51
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So the current GotG team only goes back to 2008?
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May 31, 2014 03:37
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zoux posted:So the current GotG team only goes back to 2008? The current team goes back like a year and a half. It's not exactly the same lineup as before.
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Rhyno posted:The current team goes back like a year and a half. It's not exactly the same lineup as before. Right, but I thought it was like a Sliver Age team or something. I was reading Starlord #1 today and when Peter met Rocket for the first time I was like, hang on.... I also have no idea why I thought they were an old school team, but I did.
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zoux posted:Right, but I thought it was like a Sliver Age team or something. I was reading Starlord #1 today and when Peter met Rocket for the first time I was like, hang on.... The original GotG are from 1000 years in the future, they'd traveled back in time a few times to team up with the Avengers.
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May 31, 2014 03:58
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I guess when DC won't stop copying you, there's only one way to fight back.
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zoux posted:Right, but I thought it was like a Sliver Age team or something. I was reading Starlord #1 today and when Peter met Rocket for the first time I was like, hang on.... The original Guardians (in publishing terms) were created in 1969 (I hadn't realized they were that old), and looked like this:    They had one of those old-fashioned sets of origins. One guy was from Pluto (thermal-based powers), one guy was from Jupiter (stocky and strong, because gravity), one guy was from Earth, and then a couple of aliens. It was later decided that they named themselves after the modern-day Guardians out of respect. prefect fucked around with this message at 12:56 on May 31, 2014 |
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