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Plan Affi. At least talk to them. "No cannibals here!I should know!"
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Question for Dio. Ask Jobe, Danal, Paebel and Gareb about what they think of Plan Affi. (A mixture of reasonable people we respect) (yea we respect Danal, he is clever)
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May 30, 2014 14:51
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The approach has caused a panic for innocent people and an already tense king. Time to get diplomatic. I vote A+K. Just walk away to show we have no intention of raiding or pulling any bullshit. Also, send a smooth talker like Avram with Jobe along with the banner of El to deliver a nicely worded apology. And a gift worth say 5 pounds of silver to be sacrificed at the Temple of El in Dor. When you step on somebody else's shoes you don't start bragging and making fun of them for being offended. You apologize and buy them a drink to make up for the honest mistake. Especially when you look like you might be related to the guy that's been making trouble in the bar for the past month. edit: To be clear, I wouldn't plan to do this to every city that gets it's feathers ruffled along the way but Dor is a neighbor and has been living in fear of a Zepathan outlaw. These are special circumstances. rex monday fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 30, 2014 |
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May 30, 2014 17:52
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Machisimo culture not-mesapotamia.
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May 30, 2014 17:54
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rex monday posted:The approach has caused a panic for innocent people and an already tense king. Time to get diplomatic. I vote A+K. Just walk away to show we have no intention of raiding or pulling any bullshit. Also, send a smooth talker like Avram with Jobe along with the banner of El to deliver a nicely worded apology. And a gift worth say 5 pounds of silver to be sacrificed at the Temple of El in Dor. I second this approach. A+K, have Jobe make a sacrifice in the Dor temple and let's move on.
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May 30, 2014 17:58
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rex monday posted:The approach has caused a panic for innocent people and an already tense king. Time to get diplomatic. I vote A+K. Just walk away to show we have no intention of raiding or pulling any bullshit. Also, send a smooth talker like Avram with Jobe along with the banner of El to deliver a nicely worded apology. And a gift worth say 5 pounds of silver to be sacrificed at the Temple of El in Dor. I like it! Much better than my suggestion to moon the king and run away. Changing to Plan AK
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May 30, 2014 18:03
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voting Plan rex monday
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May 30, 2014 18:15
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rex monday posted:The approach has caused a panic for innocent people and an already tense king. Time to get diplomatic. I vote A+K. Just walk away to show we have no intention of raiding or pulling any bullshit. Also, send a smooth talker like Avram with Jobe along with the banner of El to deliver a nicely worded apology. And a gift worth say 5 pounds of silver to be sacrificed at the Temple of El in Dor. I like this plan, I was going to propose a similar plan, this one will do though since it's essentially what I want us to do. You make friends by being friendly, not by being a douche. We're not of the line of douchebags, we're the line of ultimate bros!
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May 30, 2014 18:15
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But we didn't step on anyones toes. The king is being a douchenozzle. I'm not saying be mean to him or insult him. Just don't loving give him gifts. "Oh sorry oh lord here is some silver because I happened to pass by" poo poo. Much better to be assertive and go "Hey, dude. We're cool people. You shouldn't treat us like poo poo. But whatever. Live and let live. We're going, but I hope to hear an apology next time we pass through. Ya dig?"
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May 30, 2014 18:19
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Greggster posted:I like this plan, I was going to propose a similar plan, this one will do though since it's essentially what I want us to do. Zepas brothers douched him over to the point he hosed off into hell rather than live near them. And made a pissy monument whining about them FOREVER. Plan K is totally in line with what the adoptive ancestors would have done
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May 30, 2014 18:20
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Zepas brothers douched him over to the point he hosed off into hell rather than live near them. And made a pissy monument whining about them FOREVER.
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May 30, 2014 18:29
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In case it's not clear, making a grand sacrifice at El's temple is not a gift to the king. It's showing him that we are a group of pious pilgrims led by a dude that can give up a giant sacrifice for the gently caress of it. It shows we are self sufficient and not living off of banditry.
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May 30, 2014 18:54
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I certainly don't mind setting aside bravado for a better diplomatic result, but that's a bit much. We didn't step on anyone's toes. We didn't make any mistakes. What the hell are we supposed to be apologizing for, exactly? voting Plan Affi.
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May 30, 2014 18:57
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Diogines posted:Why name Prey? Ha! I knew this would be Snarl's response.
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May 30, 2014 19:03
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Enkidel has nothing to apologize for and shouldn't try to become friends with a king who threatened to spear him to death. I stand by my plan to give him a reply-of-the-cossacks inspired note and high-tail it out of the area. I'm now considering to tack on a vote to piss in his wine before we gift it.
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May 30, 2014 19:12
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Cathair posted:I certainly don't mind setting aside bravado for a better diplomatic result, but that's a bit much. We didn't step on anyone's toes. We didn't make any mistakes. What the hell are we supposed to be apologizing for, exactly? Panicking their entire city and ruining a day's labor for the farmers and anybody else outside the city. We didn't do it intentionally but we did have this effect. Do you not apologize for the mistakes you make that hurt other people even if you didn't mean to?
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May 30, 2014 19:13
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rex monday posted:Panicking their entire city and ruining a day's labor for the farmers and anybody else outside the city. We didn't do it intentionally but we did have this effect. Do you not apologize for the mistakes you make that hurt other people even if you didn't mean to? They get to see a Minotaur and hopefully not die. How's that for an apology?
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May 30, 2014 19:24
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rex monday posted:Panicking their entire city and ruining a day's labor for the farmers and anybody else outside the city. We didn't do it intentionally but we did have this effect. Do you not apologize for the mistakes you make that hurt other people even if you didn't mean to? If the 'mistake' is my mere existence, then no, I don't really.
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May 30, 2014 19:45
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Oh, for heaven's sake. Voting to organize our Balls into an impromptu synchronized dance number within earshot of the walls of Dor while chanting an Oompa-Loompa song about people who make too many assumptions.
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May 30, 2014 20:01
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Tomn posted:Oh, for heaven's sake. I like this except I think we should approach the walls with our balls and simultaneously ejaculate at Dor. Paradoxically, this white wave is the truest sign of our Balls' displeasure.
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May 30, 2014 20:09
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Tsyni posted:I like this except I think we should approach the walls with our balls and simultaneously ejaculate at Dor. Paradoxically, this white wave is the truest sign of our Balls' displeasure. We already did that last game.
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May 30, 2014 20:19
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gently caress this king. He doesn't want to invite us to party, then we will have our own party! Show everyone how Enkidel is baller as gently caress. He knows how to have a good time and makes it rain! Changing vote to: invite farmers and any who wish to our camp as an apology for scaring them. Let us drink and be merry! Also, check out this Minotaur we captured! This is an excellent opportunity to use all the drinking game skills we learned from Ishamal.
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May 30, 2014 20:27
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Tomn posted:Oh, for heaven's sake. this must happen.
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May 30, 2014 20:32
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We should not be licking King Dork's boots just because he wants to be a pompous little bitch. We move on, and we be sure to remember the warm reception when he inevitably needs a favor from Zepath. Edit: Just to be clear, I place the blame solely on King Dork. The farmers were only doing their civic duty, and if Barkof IS raiding the area, then running first and asking questions later would be the responsible thing for them to do. The King is the one who decided to take this to Shithead level 1.
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May 30, 2014 20:44
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the_steve posted:We should not be licking King Dork's boots just because he wants to be a pompous little bitch. Problem is, it's not at all inevitable. We've been living in Zepath for years and this is the first I can recall us ever hearing about Dor. Both Ibleam and Tannach are closer and more likely to be called upon for aid, to say nothing of the even bigger cities further towards Baitel. Why would they ever call on Zepath for help? Besides, if we take it like a bitch we're just going to get more poo poo later down the line. Best thing we can do is demonstrate that we're godly El-loving folk on a legitimate pilgrimage.
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May 30, 2014 20:49
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FoxTerrier posted:If the 'mistake' is my mere existence, then no, I don't really. the mistake is not sending jobe and others ahead to warn the farmers. we didn't consider what we would look like, in this area, from a distance i still say just loving leave though, after we buy some supplies
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May 30, 2014 20:49
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Diogines posted:Barkof had the appearance of being in his early 30s. He was in his late 70s. Interesting, so if Tudiya became king at -90 Barkof, then he became king when he was about 38. Do we know if Tudiya's father was king before him? If we assume something similar to our situation, then Tudiya's dad was likely no more than 150 when Tudiya took over, and if they were at all similarly blooded then he was still probably pretty fit, I don't expect Tudiya's going to kick it at 150. So what happened in the meantime? I can buy that his dad's not around anymore at 240, but did he hang around for a while? Were there two Turbo-Mighty dudes hanging around in Zepath for a bunch o' decades, or does a former king take off for Baitel or something when he abdicates? Can we expect Tudiya to keep chilling around, wiping out Minotaur hordes for us even after he's abdicated, or would us becoming king mean Tudiya isn't around any more?
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May 30, 2014 20:57
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jng2058 posted:Best thing we can do is demonstrate that we're godly El-loving folk on a legitimate pilgrimage. Sigh. This breaks my heart. In another life Enkidel would have heaped the dicks of Dor into a mighty pyre, and feasted on its king and mighty men for weeks. Alas. Tsyni fucked around with this message at 21:20 on May 30, 2014 |
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May 30, 2014 21:12
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Tsyni posted:Sigh. This breaks my heart. In another life Enkidel would have heaped the dicks of Dor into a mighty pyre, and feasted on it's king and mighty men for weeks. Alas. I think you have that the wrong way round
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May 30, 2014 21:20
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At this rate we might as well walk around the city walls praising El and blowing trumpets. Say...seven times? 
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May 30, 2014 21:20
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Tsyni posted:Sigh. This breaks my heart. In another life Enkidel would have heaped the dicks of Dor into a mighty pyre, and feasted on its king and mighty men for weeks. Alas. Yeah, I was an early Team NOMNOMNOM guy myself. But those days died with Og. We've decided to be Enkidel, so might as well be the best Enkidel we can.
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May 30, 2014 21:23
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Have our finest craftsmen in the caravan make a huge coffin, then march around the walls with it slung over our shoulder.
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May 30, 2014 21:25
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Tsyni posted:Sigh. This breaks my heart. In another life Enkidel would have heaped the dicks of Dor into a mighty pyre, and feasted on its king and mighty men for weeks. Alas. Wonder if we would have come into power any faster going the Asherah route, or if we still would have had to wait 40 years for our blood to start 'maturing'. Power seems to develop like wine in this world, maybe Shushem had to be a painfully-immortal thrall for 60 years or so before he could start shooting lightning at dicks. We may have still been going through the same 'You'll learn when you're ready' poo poo, just with an added bonus of BBQ kiddy leg. I imagine we'd have been in for a pretty rough shock when we inevitably went out into the world to spread the word of Asherah, when we drove our army of monsters against Zepath and had Tudiya shout 90% of us into a fine paste without effort. I don't know if we could have expected to meet them in the same way, El may have the monopoly on straight up brute force, we might have had to come at it from another angle.
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May 30, 2014 21:36
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Theglavwen posted:Wonder if we would have come into power any faster going the Asherah route, or if we still would have had to wait 40 years for our blood to start 'maturing'. Power seems to develop like wine in this world, maybe Shushem had to be a painfully-immortal thrall for 60 years or so before he could start shooting lightning at dicks. We may have still been going through the same 'You'll learn when you're ready' poo poo, just with an added bonus of BBQ kiddy leg. The shock would have been Tudiya's as the paste reformed into a giant fish cock, girthier than all of Zepath, and 1000 tentacles of Eyescream erupted from the river to restrain him. It's not too lateeeee.
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May 30, 2014 21:49
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Theglavwen posted:Interesting, so if Tudiya became king at -90 Barkof, then he became king when he was about 38. Do we know if Tudiya's father was king before him? Or does a former king take off for Baitel or something when he abdicates? Can we expect Tudiya to keep chilling around, wiping out Minotaur hordes for us even after he's abdicated, or would us becoming king mean Tudiya isn't around any more? Affi posted:Question for Dio. Diogines posted:A comment on plan K, to give you relevant information you know. With your knowledge of the culture of your society as well as it's norms, you understand that when the King of Dor said "kin of Barkof", that term would PROBABLY include any Zepathan. He probably does not mean Uriah, he probably means almost your entire group. Jobe: "Let's buy our supplies and move on." Gareb: "As much as I hate to say it, we can't waste weeks hunting our way ahead. We need to buy food, even if our silver goes to a pompous fool." Danal: "Let's take what we need from the fields and move on, we can leave ample silver, it's fair." Paebel: "I don't want to stay here any longer than we must, lets just keep going."
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May 30, 2014 22:02
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Theglavwen posted:Actually, Can we talk to Uriah at some point about Barkof? Theglavwen posted:I'd specifically like to know how his actions hit his extended family. How did Uriah feel when everything came out, how did Lullaya take it? You know that after Barkof's betrayal most of the land and flocks of his extended family was seized by Tudiya. Much of it he redistributed among the elites of Zepath. Much of it he sold and gave the proceeds from the sale to El's temple. A small portion was used for other purposes. A portion of it was also used to repair damage to the city and provide for the families of the men who fought against Bareen in the temple, but died. A portion to reward the handful of foreign adventurers loyal to El who fought. A portion was also used to support new widows and orphans created by the fight.
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May 30, 2014 22:23
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 + Send Jobe to make a sacrifice + send Gareb with Avram + have Avram invite everyone to a feast when he's shopping + keep moving and have Avram catch up with us.I know a lot of goons want to take a swing at him, and some of those suggestions have been pretty classy. The best way to poke this guy in the eye is by being a nicer guy than he is. We should send Jobe with monster bits to make a sacrifice in the King of Dor's name. Have Jobe praise the King's kindness, generosity, and piousness in allowing holy pilgrims to camp two days beyond his walls and buy food from his El blessed fields.
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May 30, 2014 22:24
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Diogines posted:The exact details of the transition of power are fuzzy. As far as you know, Tudiya's father appointed Tudiya king and then left Zepath for good. Presumably for Mount Har. You don't know his exact age but he was probably about 300 or so? Tudiya obviously does not like to talk about it and how many men are still alive who remember those events well? You could likely get the precise details from the Temple archives in Zepath when you get home. Woah, so 'Grandpa' didn't even have Tudiya until he was ~260, Tudiya's ahead of the game! Hopefully that means he'll still be kicking rear end with/under us for some time. Diogines posted:You did so while waiting for Jobe to return. Ask Uriah (if it's not too touchy, be delicate about it) how well known amongst his family was Barkof's 'tendencies'. Was he obviously worshipping the Melachim, or did this come as a shock to everyone? Did it seem like he had ulterior motives?
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May 30, 2014 22:35
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Affi posted:edit: Even if it is just for one night, camp there, show him he isn't our boss. And show him that we can be more civilized then he. Come on guys, this is our chance to make a king look bad and show him he isn't our boss. Don't over think it, just do it.
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Ask Uriah: "When we are older and have become strong enough to be a match for Barkof, do you want to be the one to take him down?"
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