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Seriously, get a huge external, get crashplan and/or Genie Timeline, be happy.
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This is my first time setting up a computer, and I'm upgrading the hard drive to a 500GB Samsung Evo but I'm just really unfamiliar with this whole process. I've heard that cloning from a hard drive to an SSD can cause problems later, is the same true for imaging? And if I installed the factory image onto the SSD would I still need to install Windows or is it part of the image?
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yellowyams posted:This is my first time setting up a computer, and I'm upgrading the hard drive to a 500GB Samsung Evo but I'm just really unfamiliar with this whole process. I've heard that cloning from a hard drive to an SSD can cause problems later, is the same true for imaging? And if I installed the factory image onto the SSD would I still need to install Windows or is it part of the image?
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As long as the partition(s) you're trying to clone from the OS drive will fit on the SSD, use the free version of Macrium Reflect and just clone them over. Delete the old system restore points from the OS drive and then run the System Experience Index once the SSD's installed if you're running Windows 7. e:fb
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Thanks guys, I think I'll go with the clean install since there's not really anything I want to keep from the hard drive other than Windows 8.1, which I can just put on USB. Is partition alignment just another cloning issue?
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Your partitions will be perfectly aligned when created with the Windows installer. If you're cloning, Macrium Reflect offers alignment options.
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Today Crucial released a new drive, the MX100. Basically it's a M550 with 16nm NAND, which means less chips/channels and the 128GB and 256GB drives are lower performance than the 512GB model. http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Crucial-MX100-Affordable-Solid-State-Drive-Review/ 
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And it's $80.24 shipped on newegg
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Jun 3, 2014 02:57
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Hadlock posted:And it's $80.24 shipped on newegg 256GB is only $29 more
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The 3TB green WD drive I bought a few months ago has a 4k sector size. This its because WD uses a new error correction method where it only requires a few kb for a larger sector size. Instead of like a few kb for every 256/512k. Should I use 4k sector size when formatting or a smaller size.
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SlayVus posted:The 3TB green WD drive I bought a few months ago has a 4k sector size. This its because WD uses a new error correction method where it only requires a few kb for a larger sector size. Instead of like a few kb for every 256/512k. 4K sectors have been the standard in new drives for years now. At the point you should be using 4K sectors unless you have a very good reason not to (e.g. using something like ZFS RAID mixed with 512B sector drives).
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Jun 3, 2014 03:16
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Bob Morales posted:256GB is only $29 more 640K is enough for anyone.
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So, how are you supposed to make sure TRIM and a drive's garbage collection are fully doing what they're supposed to? I decided to check my 840 Pro's performance for the first time in at least six months because the write performance seemed slow, and it turns out it had actually tanked from its original ~535 MB/s down to 120 MB/s. Over half of the drive is empty, so it's not a matter of low free space. I checked my drive using TRIMcheck and it says TRIM's enabled and working. After running Samsung Magician's "performance optimization" (this seems to be a manual TRIM and full garbage collection?) on it, it was back to its original performance, so I'm not sure what's going on. Is the drive just not performing its proper garbage collection processes on my system, so I have to occasionally run the optimizer in Magician? Is there any way to ensure it performs its full GC processes regularly? If it matters, I'm on Windows 7. Also, does anybody know why random write performance seems to tank with System Restore on? It's cut in half with it on, and goes back to full performance if you turn it off. edit: I did a clean install since something else was messed up with Windows, and now the random write performance is only a few thousand IOPS slower with System Restore on. Still no idea about whether or not the garbage collection is working properly. some dillweed fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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deimos posted:Seriously, get a huge external, get crashplan and/or Genie Timeline, be happy.
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Intel has released some rather impressive PciExpress SSD drives. Source. 
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Bob Morales posted:256GB is only $29 more Sale at TigerDirect on these: http://slickdeals.net/f/6972254-crucial-mx100-solid-state-drives-512gb-200-256gb-100-128gb-70-ac-more 512GB $200 256GB $100 128GB $70 No rebates or anything.
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Welmu posted:Intel has released some rather impressive PciExpress SSD drives. Source. indeed. I'm trying to get some asap to toss into some db servers here to see how they compare to our ssd based san. Also who am I kidding I will be buying a P3500 for home use.
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Anandtech has done a full rundown of the new PCIe SSDs here. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8104/intel-ssd-dc-p3700-review-the-pcie-ssd-transition-begins-with-nvme Mind blowing indeed. Also, not all that expensive.
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I really, really hope some consumer-level M.2 drives that support NMVe are released at either Computex or the Global SSD summit in August.
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Welmu posted:Intel has released some rather impressive PciExpress SSD drives. Source.  These are faster than the equivalent FusionIO drives and considerably cheaper.
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Hows Apple support for NVMe in hardware? OS X supports it already right?
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Shaocaholica posted:Hows Apple support for NVMe in hardware? OS X supports it already right? Apple isn't a member of OFA, the body pushing the NVMe, so I don't think so. edit: jre posted:
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Reminder: Do not buy the Crucial MX100, at least until it's been out for awhile. Every Crucial drive has had serious firmware issues at launch, and you REALLY don't want to be an early adopter for Crucial drives given how difficult it is to get them to honor their warranty. The MX100 probably has the best chance of not being problematic as its a minor revision to an existing model, but I'd still be extra cautious due to Crucial's track record. The value proposition for the 256GB and 512GB models looks pretty strong to unless serious issues are encountered or Samsung cuts their prices aggressively, I expect the MX100 will eventually become a recommended low-end drive at 256GB and 512GB. The 128GB model is goddamned awful so we need to make sure nobody accidentally buys one, however.
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Bob Morales posted:Sale at TigerDirect on these: edit: ^^^^^^^^^^^ That's kind of what I was thinking and why I wouldn't buy one even though I would like to upgrade my current SSD.
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real_scud posted:Jesus that's tempting but is it wrong of me to still be hesitant to buy a Crucial drive because of past fuckups? Is it going into your main machine or something else?
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Shaocaholica posted:Is it going into your main machine or something else?
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Alereon posted:Reminder: Do not buy the Crucial MX100, at least until it's been out for awhile. Every Crucial drive has had serious firmware issues at launch, and you REALLY don't want to be an early adopter for Crucial drives given how difficult it is to get them to honor their warranty. Worst case we have the 34nm to 25nm situation all over again.
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Bob Morales posted:Sale at TigerDirect on these: Not a bad deal at all. I might consider grabbing one of 'em.
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Bob Morales posted:Worst case we have the 34nm to 25nm situation all over again.
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Alereon posted:Well, the worst-case is the Crucial M4, where the drive appears to be just fine and then a time-based bug kicks in (like the 5000 hour bug), and Crucial takes several buggy firmware revisions to fix it.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:I have one in my work machine and there was just the one firmware update to fix the 5000 hour bug. Worked perfectly fine since. I certainly wouldn't buy one for myself, though.
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Is the Samsung 840 Pro still the fastest drive available on the market (that isn't PCIe)? I need something for a lab application (really quick read/write for auditory scene analysis), and cost really isn't an issue since I'm not buying it for myself. The PC it will be going into unfortunately doesn't have any PCI slots left since it has 3 sound cards and 2 video cards, so I'll have to go SATA. I'd prefer something >240GB in terms of size, but again it's not the biggest concern. All that matters is that it has a capacity of at least 64 GB and fast read/write.
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Chemical Shift posted:Is the Samsung 840 Pro still the fastest drive available on the market (that isn't PCIe)? I need something for a lab application (really quick read/write for auditory scene analysis), and cost really isn't an issue since I'm not buying it for myself. The PC it will be going into unfortunately doesn't have any PCI slots left since it has 3 sound cards and 2 video cards, so I'll have to go SATA. I'd prefer something >240GB in terms of size, but again it's not the biggest concern. All that matters is that it has a capacity of at least 64 GB and fast read/write.
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Chemical Shift posted:Is the Samsung 840 Pro still the fastest drive available on the market (that isn't PCIe)? I need something for a lab application (really quick read/write for auditory scene analysis), and cost really isn't an issue since I'm not buying it for myself. The PC it will be going into unfortunately doesn't have any PCI slots left since it has 3 sound cards and 2 video cards, so I'll have to go SATA. I'd prefer something >240GB in terms of size, but again it's not the biggest concern. All that matters is that it has a capacity of at least 64 GB and fast read/write. Intel DC S3700 may be faster, especially if you're not able to trim, or going to be running 100% workload for extended periods.
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Apparently Samsung is coming out with a 32-layer 3D V-NAND SSDs later this year for the consumer and data center market. Not much more information is given. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/02/samsungs_sort_of_3d_ssd_news/ Will be interesting to see what kind of price and performance it will have.
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snipermonkey posted:Apparently Samsung is coming out with a 32-layer 3D V-NAND SSDs later this year for the consumer and data center market. Not much more information is given.
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Alereon posted:I would point out that as Bob Morales mentioned 120GB is painfully small for a system drive. Ask me about using a 60GB OCZ Agility 3 as the only drive in my laptop 
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atomicthumbs posted:Ask me about using a 60GB OCZ Agility 3 as the only drive in my laptop Hope you like surfing the web and listening to internet radio. Although I bet you could fit one or two games on there. Of course you've probably disabled hibernation.
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Shaocaholica posted:Hope you like surfing the web and listening to internet radio. Although I bet you could fit one or two games on there. Of course you've probably disabled hibernation. I've got hibernation and virtual memory! fortunately Google Play allows me to listen to music when I'm not at home, and foobar2000 pulls from my desktop when I am.
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