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Let's count the number of things wrong with this 968: http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/4480725852.html I love the snobbiness about test drives from people who have poo poo cars.
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Why do I get the feeling the airbag went off at one point?
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Jun 3, 2014 06:44
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Brigdh posted:Why do I get the feeling the airbag went off at one point? The hood, steering wheel and upper dash panel all look like they came from a different car.
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Jun 3, 2014 08:21
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That thing is a typical unmaintained pile of poo poo that been hosed up by children "working on it", just like 99% of all 944s left on the road/up on blocks in their parent's driveway. It's hardly worth $5k if it doesn't have any other problems that weren't disclosed (it does). $7k is a joke. It's a shame what's happened to these cars as the value dropped, but really what can you ask for these things when you can get a decade newer Boxster for $12k.
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Jun 3, 2014 17:04
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"This thing has more electrical bugs than Windows XP security holes but this car is still worth 7k"
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Jun 3, 2014 17:10
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Motronic posted:It's a shame what's happened to these cars as the value dropped, but really what can you ask for these things when you can get a decade newer Boxster for $12k. I had to look it up and woah, boxsters are cheap as gently caress. Is there something wrong with them?
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Jun 3, 2014 17:22
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Image problems plus that drat IMS bearing. 996s are almost as cheap due to that latter issue.
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Jun 3, 2014 17:25
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IOwnCalculus posted:Image problems plus that drat IMS bearing. 996s are almost as cheap due to that latter issue. I'm not even sure what an IMS bearing is, but I'm guessing it's a bitch-and-a-half to fix if it's caused the value to plummet so much?
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Jun 3, 2014 17:32
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intermediate shaft and if the bearing goes you need a new engine more or less
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Jun 3, 2014 17:35
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Can't you preemptively replace the bearing? How much does it cost to do that?
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Jun 3, 2014 17:39
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You can, and it's cheaper than an engine rebuild to be sure, but it's still a very major service to do so. The problem is that the bearing is set up as a sealed bearing that doesn't get any engine oil to lubricate it, but those seals eventually fail and the bearing runs dry. Even though it's not directly lubricated, when it does poo poo itself, it can (and will) send shards of metal into the engine oil. I kid you not, one of the available 'fixes' for it is a sensor you can put in the engine to detect when it starts making GBS threads metal and shut it off before it does too much damage. The proper fix is to modify the engine and replace the bearing with one that is lubricated by engine oil.
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Jun 3, 2014 17:47
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IOwnCalculus posted:You can, and it's cheaper than an engine rebuild to be sure, but it's still a very major service to do so. Interestingly, 1999 996s were not affected by this issue from what I understand (although, they had their own problems being the first year) but you can get them for sub $20k these days. Leperflesh posted:Can't you preemptively replace the bearing? How much does it cost to do that? I've looked into it, and a reputable show will do a clutch/water/IMS combo for about ~$3k.
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Jun 3, 2014 19:55
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What the gently caress were they thinking? That's just asinine. e: apparently the LN Engineering kit can be installed without dropping the engine, at least. Trans? Yup, still gotta come out I think 
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Jun 3, 2014 20:07
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kastein posted:What the gently caress were they thinking? That's just asinine. They were thinking it only has to last out the warranty and didn't want cheap used porches diluting their brand name 15 years down the line. The only ones that will survive will be the ones modded by enthusiasts, keeping their value high and out of the hands of the everyday driver.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:19
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Yeah, it's also driven the 996 to be the cheapest 911 on the market. Used to be that nobody really cared about the '78-'89 cars or the earlier '70s cars, but now even a rough example will be priced higher than a decent 996. I've been emailing this guy a bit. I wish the photos weren't so poo poo but it looks like it could be in quite solid shape. Anyone near Kingman / Vegas want to check out an Ameri-Germa-French car?  I don't want to do what would likely be a 12 hour round trip with a trailer to find out it's shiny paint on lovely metal, and I don't feel like risking a fly-and-drive like I so foolishly did a decade ago for a worse GT.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:19
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Dr. Pain is there, I'd have him and his shop look it over. Then we can see it in that thread, too. 
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Jun 3, 2014 20:31
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Great Beer posted:They were thinking it only has to last out the warranty and didn't want cheap used porches diluting their brand name 15 years down the line. Apparently they are known to fail with like 30k miles on them, so they kinda hosed that one up. Unless the warranty is pretty short.
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kastein posted:e: apparently the LN Engineering kit can be installed without dropping the engine, at least. Trans? Yup, still gotta come out I think At least on the older 911s (my dad had a '74) it was easier to drop the engine than the transmission. You just needed to get the rear end-end of the car nice and high first.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:46
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kastein posted:Unless the warranty is pretty short. Surprisingly short considering the cost. 4 year/50k.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:48
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So if you find a 996 that's had the LN kit installed, $18.5k with 80k miles in it is pretty good? http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4493229101.html 
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Jun 3, 2014 20:51
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Leperflesh posted:So if you find a 996 that's had the LN kit installed, $18.5k with 80k miles in it is pretty good? I can't tell if the mismatched steering wheel is a sign of airbag replacement or just one of the many goofy options that porsche offered.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:13
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shoopeach posted:I can't tell if the mismatched steering wheel is a sign of airbag replacement or just one of the many goofy options that porsche offered. That's a relatively standard interior "feature" on those. Also, it's really unlikely that someone trying to cover something like that up isn't going to spend an extra $50 to make it right.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:18
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Leperflesh posted:So if you find a 996 that's had the LN kit installed, $18.5k with 80k miles in it is pretty good? Ya, that looks like a pretty good bargain. Don't forget that $180 oil changes et. al are a reality with something like this, but its a hell of a lot of car for the money.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:28
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http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/4502003208.html Bad idea or best idea?
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Jun 3, 2014 22:16
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Quantrill posted:http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/4502003208.html Not GLH = not worth it.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:15
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Rhyno posted:Not GLH = not worth it. Not GLH = more money left over for the small block.
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Tai-Pan posted:Ya, that looks like a pretty good bargain. Don't forget that $180 oil changes et. al are a reality with something like this, but its a hell of a lot of car for the money. The dry sump needs a lot of oil, so changes are expensive but the interval is longer. There are other reasons not to buy one (e.g. a 2012 V6 Mustang has about the same power for the same price) but oil changes really aren't a big deal.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:18
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True but I'm sure it doesn't feel quite the same.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:26
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Larrymer posted:True but I'm sure it doesn't feel quite the same. Yeah, I don't think anyone ever cross-shopped V6 Mustangs and any generation of 911
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Jun 4, 2014 02:09
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For blk: http://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/4469145622.html 
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Rhyno posted:Not GLH = not worth it. Except that is a glh. Its not a glhs which had a few improvements. But that's really easy to remedy. Or just srt4 swap.
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Jun 4, 2014 11:37
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The last line in this ad made me laugh:
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IOwnCalculus posted:Yeah, it's also driven the 996 to be the cheapest 911 on the market. Used to be that nobody really cared about the '78-'89 cars or the earlier '70s cars, but now even a rough example will be priced higher than a decent 996. If it's still there in 2 months I may be able to do that. See if you can get the guy to talk about himself. Not about the car, about himself. Specifically how long he's been in Arizona. Then find out how long he's had the car. So long as he doesn't know you're doing it to find out how long the car has been there, you could get good info that way. Or, y'know, ask for better pics.
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Jun 4, 2014 15:03
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That's actually a really good price. I'm not so sure about the leather color, though...
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Jun 4, 2014 15:03
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Kenshin posted:That's actually a really good price. I'm not so sure about the leather color, though... What does being objectively wrong feel like? LS blue is the best interior color invented by man.
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Sinestro posted:What does being objectively wrong feel like? LS blue is the best interior color invented by man. It's more that it feels like too much. I'd like the blue interior with a black or silver paint. With Laguna Seca Blue I feel like the interior should be a different color. On the other hand it is a supercharged E46 M3, so maybe there isn't such a thing as "too much" Kenshin fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 17:58
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SMURFSKIN leather, yeah baby
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Craigslist aficionados: can I get some feedback on my ad and pricing? http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/4502625303.html At $500 in losing a little cash between what I paid for it and what I put in after. I can't find another one for sale to compare to. At this point I'm more concerned about getting it out of the garage, but money is nice too. How do I weed out the hipsters and literal hairdressers asking if a 45 year old tiddler is safe or reliable enough to ride to work every day? I don't want to make it sound too awful and scare away legitimate buyers. It's an interesting bike but I don't want to unload it on someone with no mechanical aptitude. eddiewalker fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 18:52
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This is kind of a neat thing http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/4443898856.html 
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 24, 2019 |
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