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Mandrel posted:Well it's settled them Hairston hype train leaving the station in my heart Jones is a very talented player that doesn't get minutes because brooks is an awful coach who would rather play Butler and Fisher rather than young more talented players like Jones. Same goes for Roberson
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Jun 5, 2014 00:33
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BIZORT posted:I saw Dante Exum's brother play in a streetball tournament a couple of months ago and he wasn't very good. Update your draft buzz sheets
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Jun 5, 2014 00:34
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Metapod posted:Jones is a very talented player that doesn't get minutes because brooks is an awful coach who would rather play Butler and Fisher rather than young more talented players like Jones. Same goes for Roberson I agree, but what can you do. Maybe Fish will retire and we won't resign Butler. Roberson could be so loving good if we could teach him to shoot at all. He's an unreal defender and rebounder off instinct alone.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:36
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Mandrel posted:I agree, but what can you do. Maybe Fish will retire and we won't resign Butler. Roberson could be so loving good if we could teach him to shoot at all. He's an unreal defender and rebounder off instinct alone. Pray that we don't resign butler, fisher retires, and brooks learns he needs to play his bench more during the season so in the playoffs we don't have games where the bench scores less than 10 points
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Jun 5, 2014 00:41
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Metapod posted:Jones is a very talented player that doesn't get minutes because brooks is an awful coach who would rather play Butler and Fisher rather than young more talented players like Jones. Same goes for Roberson I don't know if talented is the right word. He's sort of like Durant in that he's a really great athlete, super quick and very springy, for his size. But he lacks the incredible basketball skill of Durant. He still needs to learn his one NBA thing. If he could learn to shoot, he'd be a useful player. If he learned to finish at the rim, he'd be a useful player, etc etc.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:42
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So is Stauskas like the only one in this draft that can shoot? Yes I know Hood and Wilcox can shoot
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Jun 5, 2014 00:47
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kiimo posted:So is Stauskas like the only one in this draft that can shoot? There are a few, but the main guys are Stauskas and this feller http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Doug-McDermott-6504/stats/
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Jun 5, 2014 00:49
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I hope the Kings don't draft McDermott. He's done-for if they do.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:51
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WEREWAIF posted:I don't know if talented is the right word. He's sort of like Durant in that he's a really great athlete, super quick and very springy, for his size. But he lacks the incredible basketball skill of Durant. He still needs to learn his one NBA thing. If he could learn to shoot, he'd be a useful player. If he learned to finish at the rim, he'd be a useful player, etc etc. All those things can be fixed with playing time
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Jun 5, 2014 00:56
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kiimo posted:So is Stauskas like the only one in this draft that can shoot? McDermott might be the best shooter in the history of college basketball so probably him
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Jun 5, 2014 01:26
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Metapod posted:All those things can be fixed with playing time Just letting a bad player play a lot is usually not a great way to win games. And jn college at least jones didn't give much indication that he was going to try to get better.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:28
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Wes Johnson looked like a competent NBA player twice a month if you played him 30 minutes a game.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:33
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The Thunder have maybe made a promise to something called a Porzingis with the 21st pick. Uh, all right.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:34
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Terry Glenn posted:The Thunder have maybe made a promise to something called a Porzingis with the 21st pick. Uh, all right. That guy has a seriously great name in perhaps the strongest name draft in league history.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:35
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BIZORT posted:I hadn't really considered it. I assume they're taking Exum at 4. Also, I tend to fall in love with guards and hate big men so ignore me. I keep going back and forth on who I want the Sixers to take with their second pick if they don't get Wiggins between Gary Harris and Stauskas. I've really started to like Stauskas a lot though and he'd be great next to MCW
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Jun 5, 2014 01:37
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chunkles posted:That guy has a seriously great name in perhaps the strongest name draft in league history. Maybe if you want a Star Trek villain on your team.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:38
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morestuff posted:Maybe if you want a Star Trek villain on your team. Kristaps Porzingis is actually a title that he earned from killing the last Kristaps Porzingis
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Jun 5, 2014 01:44
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I'm cool with a Star Trek Villain, but Presti already has two dudes stashed in Europe that aren't coming to the NBA any time soon, and the Thunder have significant gaps given the current roster. Drafting that Euro makes sense if you believe he'll grow into that frame and if Presti is planning to fill some of those gaps via FA (I doubt it).
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Jun 5, 2014 01:46
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Jota posted:I keep going back and forth on who I want the Sixers to take with their second pick if they don't get Wiggins between Gary Harris and Stauskas. I've really started to like Stauskas a lot though and he'd be great next to MCW I watched a handful of Stauskas vids after Morningview talked him up and he's the real deal. I wanted James Young before, but I'm conflicted now. I'm not a fan of Harris due because of the height issues.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:50
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I watched a handful of Stauskas vids after Morningview talked him up and he's the real deal. I wanted James Young before, but I'm conflicted now. I'm not a fan of Harris due because of the height issues. Gary Harris is like 6'4 he'll be fine
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Jun 5, 2014 01:53
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I've been looking through draft profiles a bit and trying to find the Moreyest picks at #25 and #42. Adriaen Payne is absolutely perfect but seems to have played his way above #25. Draftexpress mocked Johnny O'Bryant with the #42 which looks pretty drat spot on.
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Jun 5, 2014 02:06
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Declan MacManus posted:Gary Harris is like 6'4 he'll be fine With shoes. He's a good player, but he's kind of small for a NBA-calibre starting SG. Out of the top 15 SGs in the draft he ranks 14/15 for wingspan, 15/15 for standing reach, and 12/15 for height. I don't think he's that much better than Stauskas, Young, Lavine, Hairston, etc. that the absence of size/length can be ignored.
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Jun 5, 2014 02:36
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6'4" is plenty tall for a shooting guard. His arms are a little short, but I don't think that's as big a deal for a guard. It's not such a huge deal that it's going to prevent him from being a good player.
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Jun 5, 2014 02:43
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Wade is 6'4 after you fudge the numbers a bit and he's arguably the best two guard in the east. If he can get his shot off then he's fine
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Jun 5, 2014 03:48
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Defense is probably what you'd be worried about, anyway, and from what I understand he's a better defensive prospect than the other two-guards.
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Jun 5, 2014 03:49
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JR Reddick is 6'4" in high heels and he's somehow a NBA SG.
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Jun 5, 2014 03:55
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I think I've talked myself into basically every top-20 prospect. It's nice watching highlight videos and just imagining the best-case scenario for everybody.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:00
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Every year we all, more or less, agree on at least one guy that will bust but I'm not sure we've all come to that consensus yet for this draft. The only one we've been wrong about off the top of my head is Drummond
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Jun 5, 2014 04:02
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BIZORT posted:Every year we all, more or less, agree on at least one guy that will bust but I'm not sure we've all come to that consensus yet for this draft. The only one we've been wrong about off the top of my head is Drummond I'd guess McDermott, LaVine and Gordon are the finalists this year.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:04
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morestuff posted:I'd guess McDermott, LaVine and Gordon are the finalists this year. McDermott can at least give something valuable to a team. Those other two are a bit more questionable.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:21
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At the very least I'd guess that Gordon can carve out a "Hey, he's athletic. This is his year!" eight year career like Stromile Swift but I know very little about him. I don't know anything about LaVine. McDermott seemingly has a plus skill so he should have a fairly long career either way.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:25
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BIZORT posted:Every year we all, more or less, agree on at least one guy that will bust but I'm not sure we've all come to that consensus yet for this draft. The only one we've been wrong about off the top of my head is Drummond I think Marcus Smart is probably the closest to that so far this year. I am pretty sure everyone hated the Westbrook pick, too.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:25
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Crazy Ted posted:Obviously Exum doesn't have good bloodlines then. Cecil Exum was pretty decent...at forward...in Australia... Mandrel posted:I feel like PJ Hairston has got to be fool's gold because I watch videos of him and see that he's a reasonable get for the Thunder and he just looks too good to be true. Anybody who actually watched him on the regular that can tell me why he's actually poo poo and not as good as he seems? Basically what MV said, he's a good shooter and one hell of an athlete and probably not an elite ball handler but not so bad as to be a huge detriment to his game since he was able to run the break competently at UNC. Volume scorer swizz fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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Jun 5, 2014 04:29
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xbilkis posted:I think Marcus Smart is probably the closest to that so far this year. Most of us just thought Westbrook was picked entirely too high. I'm not even sure a lot of us had an opinion on him before the draft. Marcus Smart does strike me as a strong possibility but even he seems like he could succeed in the right situation. There is no Adam Morrison... yet
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Jun 5, 2014 04:36
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I suspect McDermott will be disappointing but he'll be in the NBA for a while. Worst case scenario is James Jones. Plus a bust really needs to be in the top-10. If I had to vote now, declaring Exum a top-5 guy in this draft might seem stupid a year from now.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:43
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Some rando named a "Justin Simmons" apparently worked out with the Bucks today. 
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Jun 5, 2014 04:58
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BIZORT posted:Wade is 6'4 after you fudge the numbers a bit and he's arguably the best two guard in the east. If he can get his shot off then he's fine Wade has a 7 foot wingspan. There's a reason he's one of the best shot-blocking SGs ever.
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Jun 5, 2014 06:26
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Lockback posted:I suspect McDermott will be disappointing but he'll be in the NBA for a while. Worst case scenario is James Jones. Plus a bust really needs to be in the top-10. If I had to vote now, declaring Exum a top-5 guy in this draft might seem stupid a year from now. Yeah but Exum is one of those foreign mystery prospects, he fits a different draft archetype from the Adam Morrison obvious bust type. The hybrid, Jan Vesely type is rarely seen at under 7ft tall.
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Jun 5, 2014 06:36
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Wade has a 7 foot wingspan. There's a reason he's one of the best shot-blocking SGs ever. Yeah, athletically Wade is a Barkley-esque monster.
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Jun 5, 2014 06:42
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I'm not arguing that Harris won't be okay/good. :Sixers: I just don't want to spend a #10 on him in this draft when there's half a dozen other picks who are arguably better prospects and TYoung, 5 second round picks, and cap space as incentive to trade up or trade for future picks. I think the trading for future picks is an option for the 76ers that's been ignored. Options get restricted if you have to consider contracts for Noel/MCW, #3/#10, and whatever happens in 2015 in consecutive years. Cap space rules and that's 5-6 players you have to sign, who prossibly could be really good, and it's a 3 year time span. That's a lot of $/risk in a short-term period.
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