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blue squares posted:Pretty weird to have this cool young in the past and the terrible old hag mom who can't say "I love you" in the present time. The same actress did play Louie's mother in a flashback episode in Season 1, where her character was also portrayed in a generally positive light.
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Man I was so worried the teacher would get fired for the theft.
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Jun 10, 2014 16:58
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wukkar posted:Man I was so worried the teacher would get fired for the theft. I thought that was what was happening when Louie came to school and all the cops were outside. I was getting a Breaking Bad vibe.
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hcreight posted:The same actress did play Louie's mother in a flashback episode in Season 1, where her character was also portrayed in a generally positive light. I think the scene where she goes off on Louie plants the seeds for her later being a bad mom. She seemed cool as long as Louie went along with her idea of what a good son should be, but as soon as he was having issues and turned away from her she started yelling and threating him (a 12 year old) that she would kick him out. Louie takes the exact opposite approach when he is with Lily in the final scene, probably in part because he remembers how his mom treated him and how it made him feel. e: This episode is one of my favourites of the series. I'm a Freaks and Geeks fan and there was a similar vibe to this (right down to a Kevin Corrigan / Jeremy Renner comparison, although much darker). TheYellowFog fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Jun 10, 2014 17:43
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beanieson posted:It also appears he's an only child in the flashback when at times in present day he has both a sister and a brother Two sisters (the fat one who gave birth to a fart and the thin who gave birth to a daughter).
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Jun 10, 2014 17:57
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TheYellowFog posted:Louie takes the exact opposite approach when he is with Lily in the final scene, probably in part because he remembers how his mom treated him and how it made him feel. I don't think that was exactly it: Louie was just as pissed off and enraged at the start of the episode, but he figures it out at the end much the same way as his mom did, just you know, with a little less drama. Both the initial problem and the solution are present in his mom's behaviour. It's like cyclical or some poo poo, though with a hint of progress (Louie's kid doesn't steal and Louie just gets kinda mad at her for a while).
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Jun 10, 2014 17:58
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Plus Louie's mom also recognised something was wrong with her son and sent him to therapy to get him the help he needed. I don't think she was meant to be unsympathetic at all.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:01
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Bown posted:Plus Louie's mom also recognised something was wrong with her son and sent him to therapy to get him the help he needed. I don't think she was meant to be unsympathetic at all. No, she was definitely a different character from the batshit crazy lady that his mom became in the present day episodes. But it's still not cool to threaten to kick out your 12 year old son because you don't like him anymore. I could see a woman who threatens that becoming batshit crazy at some point.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:04
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This season has been really awesome, and I'm hoping it sticks the landing with the last two episodes.
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Gianthogweed posted:No, she was definitely a different character from the batshit crazy lady that his mom became in the present day episodes. But it's still not cool to threaten to kick out your 12 year old son because you don't like him anymore. I could see a woman who threatens that becoming batshit crazy at some point. Yeah she's definitely sort of in the same continuity (you know except for the brother/sister thing), or at least could be. Hey, didn't the guy who played Louie's dad here also play the part of some different relative in an earlier season? I have vague memories like he was an uncle or something.
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verybad posted:Yeah she's definitely sort of in the same continuity (you know except for the brother/sister thing), or at least could be. Hey, didn't the guy who played Louie's dad here also play the part of some different relative in an earlier season? I have vague memories like he was an uncle or something. The guy who played his uncle: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000719/?ref_=tt_cl_t2 Same actor, right?
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poo poo, wasn't he also the husband of that chick who asked Louie if he'd like to see her pussy? That's, uh, an interesting casting decision.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:32
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The woman who Louie dates in the "Bully" episode is played by the same actress as his flashback mother
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Promo for the season finale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKcdkpQcyOY So uh... Odd, didn't expect this to come from the end of episode 10.
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Breadallelogram posted:The guy who played his uncle: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000719/?ref_=tt_cl_t2 Bown posted:yeah that's the same guy. verybad posted:poo poo, wasn't he also the husband of that chick who asked Louie if he'd like to see her pussy? I like to think of it as young Louie not knowing his dad that well so that his dad and his uncle end up looking the same. Like, it was some sort of surreal way to communicate how much of an absentee dad he had.  Also, man, these episodes have been absolutely awesome.
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Jun 10, 2014 19:32
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Breadallelogram posted:I thought that was what was happening when Louie came to school and all the cops were outside. I was getting a Breaking Bad vibe. When the teacher stood up for Louie I got the feeling that he knew Louie actually stole them but that he liked Louie and wanted him to have a future. When Louie went and confessed to the teacher I assumed the teacher was gonna be like yeah I knew you took them but I stuck my neck out for you because I believe in you. I was somewhat surprised when it didn't turn out that way.
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"That same guy" is F. Murray Abraham! You guys really don't know who F. Murray Abraham is? He won the Academy Award! He killed Moe Zart! Homer wanted to get home in time so badly to see his appearance on Inside the Actors Studio that Grampa's kidneys blew up! PS: Skip Sudduth deserves some kind of award for that. Next level performance. Tokelau All Star fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Tokelau All Star posted:"That same guy" is F. Murray Abraham! You guys really don't know who F. Murray Abraham is? He won the Academy Award! He killed Moe Zart! Homer wanted to get home in time so badly to see his appearance on Inside the Actors Studio that Grampa's kidneys blew up! Oh poo poo, he was Salieri. I knew I recognized him.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:16
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What the gently caress, those were some of the best episodes of the whole show.
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:What the gently caress, those were some of the best episodes of the whole show. Those two episodes were like part of a really good coming-of-age movie. If they condensed them down and then added a bunch of other poo poo that happened to Young Louie when he was 13, that'd make a great film.
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i really liked the (keyboard?) music that played when louie was looking at his mum and going back to school.
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:What the gently caress, those were some of the best episodes of the whole show. Then again my "pretentious/masturbatory/self-congratulatory detector" is always broken so I can never really sniff that out, if I'm wrong here. I really enjoyed this week's stuff, honestly.
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Jun 11, 2014 02:12
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I'm surprised we saw Louie's dad be portrayed at all.
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Sub Rosa posted:I'm surprised we saw Louie's dad be portrayed at all. He was in an earlier episode giving an even younger Louie weird sex tips, but I don't think it was F. Murray
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Jun 11, 2014 03:11
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My favorite part was the daughter having the munchies in a Five Guys.
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Gianthogweed posted:No, she was definitely a different character from the batshit crazy lady that his mom became in the present day episodes. But it's still not cool to threaten to kick out your 12 year old son because you don't like him anymore. I could see a woman who threatens that becoming batshit crazy at some point. The whole scene with his mother was things that my mother actually said to me, so for me, this was a really powerful episode.
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Wow that uh, that was not what I was expecting. I'm still just like completely at a loss, but that was just really emotional for me. I had a similar relationship with my mother and my dad that was like that.
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Jun 11, 2014 05:49
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Wow, Jeremy Renner can act. Who knew.
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Kristofenpheiffer posted:Wow, Jeremy Renner can act. Who knew. I was surprised too.
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What a first episode for someone who's always heard Louie was a great show but had never watched it until stumbling upon this while channel surfing last night. God drat this show, I marathoned Eps 403-410 today with On Demand, where can I get the rest? I know the earlier seasons are said to be much funnier and I love CK's standup - are the earlier seasons as well done as this also? All the Emmys, holy poo poo.
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Renner is actually a fun character actor, he just gets cast in a lot of leading man parts which I don't actually think are his strong suit and just make him come across really bland. EDIT: ^I think the first Season takes a few episodes to find its footing because Louie was still working out what the hell he wanted the show to be, but yes, every season is this good, although the stories used to be a lot more self-contained (often with two separate "vignettes" each episode). BOAT SHOWBOAT fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Randandal posted:I know the earlier seasons are said to be much funnier and I love CK's standup - are the earlier seasons as well done as this also? The first two are also a lot more episodic, he only really started doing multi-ep arcs last year. Check out the Late Show trilogy as soon as possible. It's basically his version of Rocky, only he tries out for the spot of replacing Letterman as a late show host and gets coached by David loving Lynch.
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Renner was really good in The Town where he did an even crazier Bawston accent. He tends to get really bland parts to play but can really work with good material.
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That two-parter was perfection. Any weird taste I had left over from last week is gone. The casting was pitch-perfect. I lived Jeremy Renner's weird little ticks and mannerisms and young Louis was pehnomenal. Seriously, where do they find these child actors? I teared up at Louis' speech to his daughter at the end. "I love you and I'm here. That's all I got." That was such a heartfelt, moving scene.TheYellowFog posted:I'm a Freaks and Geeks fan and there was a similar vibe to this (right down to a Kevin Corrigan / Jeremy Renner comparison, although much darker). I definitely got a strong Freaks & Geeks vibe, especially in the lunchroom scenes. Not a bad thing at all, considering Freaks & Geeks handled coming of age better than any other show I've seen.
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Bown posted:his transformation in real time, going from this "THE WORD friend of the family ISN'T THAT BAD GUYS" standup He's still that guy, hth.
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Randandal posted:are the earlier seasons as well done as this also? Yes, but there's growth. "Duckling" is incredibly good and the stand out episode of previous seasons in my opinion. It's as good as any part of this season and in my opinion was the first episode where he showed the potential to make a season like the current one.
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Bown posted:going from this "THE WORD friend of the family ISN'T THAT BAD GUYS" standup Are you talking about his bit about "the n-word"? That is not at all the point of that bit
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Riptor posted:Are you talking about his bit about "the n-word"? That is not at all the point of that bit Nah, if you listen to his Opie & Anthony appearances on youtube, he drops into that whole "political correctness is ruining society" bullshit a lot. Also, basically every time they talk about a woman, Louis will call her a oval office. Some of that might be him playing to Opie & Anthony's huge audience of dirtbags though.
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