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HapiMerchant posted:I'm not sure whether Tropers will care, given it doesn't involve GRORIOUS NIPPON. If they do, they'll probably support her and her views because of who she is, rather then looking at the issue itself. They're bound to be at least a couple of cybernats who think she's a Nazi.
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Anticheese posted:Huh. Where is it said that Hogwarts is in Scotland? So yeah, that pony stuff is about four and a quarter Galt speeches.
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Swan Oat posted:If Scotland does opt for independence what does that mean for the wizarding community? Does Scotland get its own Ministry of Magic? Will Hogwarts finally be free of meddling from the Ministry of Magic bureaucrats in London? These are some complicated issues and I expect the troping community to have answers. Uh, I think you'll find that Hogwarts already accepts students from Ireland and is thus the cachement school for the entire British Isles. Thus, Hogwarts would remain pretty much the same if Scotland gained independence.   :sperg:Just so that this post isn't just me sperging, have some Tropers sperging instead! Getting Crap Past the Radar: Harry Potter posted:In the Gameboy Advance version of the Chamber Of Secrets game, one of the collectible Chocolate Frog Cards found around Hogwarts is of a woman by the name of Sacharissa TUGWOOD. 'Tug' can apply to... well, given that the boys in Harry's year are approaching puberty, as are their female classmates, one can only assume they'll be spending a lot of time 'wand-polishing'. And 'wood' can refer to... again, 'wands'. As it's a children's game, this does seem quite innocuous, as children at the intended age for the game would hardly be able to figure that out, until you read the description on the back of Sacharissa's card, which states that she was a pioneer of Beautifying Potions, and is incredibly attractive...
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Jun 12, 2014 11:14
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cptn_dr posted:This is a triumph of post modern outsider art. As an autistic person, I take offense to being lumped with these folk.
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Jun 12, 2014 11:48
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Zemyla posted:I looked at http://galtse.cx/ for John Galt's speech. That wound up being about 33,000 words. A good candidate for tropese.cx.
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Swan Oat posted:If Scotland does opt for independence what does that mean for the wizarding community? Does Scotland get its own Ministry of Magic? Will Hogwarts finally be free of meddling from the Ministry of Magic bureaucrats in London? These are some complicated issues and I expect the troping community to have answers. Oh dear, Rowling might have to write about how other countries have their own Wizarding schools, how tragic.
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Zemyla posted:I looked at http://galtse.cx/ for John Galt's speech. That wound up being about 33,000 words. I like this as a unit of measure for long, pointless poo poo. So we've set the bar here at 4.25 galts. I'm sure that record can be easily broken 
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I'm almost willing to bet that their Evangelion pages (just the original series) would get close to that.... Uh... Impressive thing posted earlier. Combined with the Rebuild pages, and all of the pages for the fanfics deemed notable enough to warrant their own pages? Hoo boy. 
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Jun 12, 2014 17:35
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Regalingualius posted:I'm almost willing to bet that their Evangelion pages (just the original series) would get close to that.... Uh... Impressive thing posted earlier. At least that's all poo poo that exists. You can go out and watch that bullshit or read it! You can find the many porn comics where Shinji fucks and is hosed by everyone because they actually exist and thus, at SOME POINT, they are just reporting what happened in them. Daring Do does not exist. What they did was worse than even fanfiction- it was compiling the tropes of a fan fiction that DOESN'T EXIST.
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Jun 12, 2014 17:55
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MinistryofLard posted:Uh, I think you'll find that Hogwarts already accepts students from Ireland and is thus the cachement school for the entire British Isles. Thus, Hogwarts would remain pretty much the same if Scotland gained independence. I like how they felt the need to explain the incredibly complex and subtle double meaning of the name "Tugwood", because surely nobody would have been able to figure that out without help. Burkion posted:Daring Do does not exist. What they did was worse than even fanfiction- it was compiling the tropes of a fan fiction that DOESN'T EXIST. This doesn't even make any sense. If it doesn't exist how can it even have tropes? The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Jun 12, 2014 19:15
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The Cheshire Cat posted:This doesn't even make any sense. If it doesn't exist how can it even have tropes? They're the tropes it would have if it did exist. Probably. Honestly, it's the apotheosis of the "tropers don't want to write, they want to have written" meme.
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Jun 12, 2014 19:40
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That's probably based on nerds and their caretakers (developers for their favorite stuff) in general and that Mark Twain quote about people wanting to have read classics but not reading them.
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Jun 12, 2014 20:01
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I am vaguely sad that they don't have a Zybourne Clock page.
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Jun 12, 2014 20:06
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Metal Loaf posted:They're the tropes it would have if it did exist. I believe this is precisely correct.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:11
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The Cheshire Cat posted:This doesn't even make any sense. If it doesn't exist how can it even have tropes? Not just tropes, but quotes. Pages and pages of badass action lines and catchphrases taken from the pages of books THAT DO NOT EXIST.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:12
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It's amazing. These people have invented whole new ways of Not Writing, on a massive scale.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:46
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Anticheese posted:Huh. Where is it said that Hogwarts is in Scotland? In the first book it mentions that the train to Hogwarts has to go very far north from London to reach the school and that the school is situated in a mountainous area (so that pretty heavily implies it's in Scotland) and then eventually both the books and the movies explicitly state it's in Scotland.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:55
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Found this on one of TV Tropes' Discworld pages. (emphasis mine)quote:Torture Cellar: What the Cable Street Particulars have. The Torture Technician that Captain Swing employs, however, is not a sadistic self-declared "artist" but merely a big bruiser who — as Vimes suspects — thinks nothing of hitting people long after they're unconscious and beating (or raping) them to death. It's all just a job to him. Guess what the passage they're referring to doesn't mention at all. They're like a parody of themselves at this point.
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Jun 13, 2014 06:32
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MinistryofLard posted:Uh, I think you'll find that Hogwarts already accepts students from Ireland and is thus the cachement school for the entire British Isles. Thus, Hogwarts would remain pretty much the same if Scotland gained independence. Jesus Christ, it's a masturbation joke. Why would they try to explain the joke bit by bit? Well, besides  Shwoo posted:Found this on one of TV Tropes' Discworld pages. (emphasis mine) Never is more appropriate than here. It's Discworld for gods sake.
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Jun 13, 2014 06:38
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I seriously can't figure out whether your inability to correctly post pics from imgur is a gimmick or not.
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Metal Loaf posted:Honestly, it's the apotheosis of the "tropers don't want to write, they want to have written" meme. The part I find most bafflingly pointless is that most of it is just note for note copying of poo poo from Indiana Jones. I know the original character is pretty clearly some kind of parody but if you're going to write absurd amounts of words about a series that doesn't exist, can you at least not completely copy everything about something that does exist? What's the point of that exercise, it's just a circle jerk for an extremely specific subset of people who want to wank about ponies and Indiana Jones at once. Basically if you're going to write about something that does not exist, at least go balls to the wall with it.
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I know the original character is pretty clearly some kind of parody but if you're going to write absurd amounts of words about a series that doesn't exist, can you at least not completely copy everything about something that does exist? What's the point of that exercise, it's just a circle jerk for an extremely specific subset of people who want to wank about ponies and Indiana Jones at once. They've done this before.
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I can't find it at the moment, but someone on That Guy With the Glasses made a joke about a movie like Anastasia Disney-fying the Holocaust. And there's a page for that movie on tvtropes. With tropes, characters, "Tearjerking moments" and all. I find that a bit more disturbing than a collective waste of time about ponies.
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Xander77 posted:I can't find it at the moment, but someone on That Guy With the Glasses made a joke about a movie like Anastasia Disney-fying the Holocaust. And there's a page for that movie on tvtropes. With tropes, characters, "Tearjerking moments" and all. I don't believe that souls exist, but if they did, I think mine just died a little.
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Jun 13, 2014 18:57
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The only thing that stood out to me from that whole swathe of Pony bullshit was that one of the "stories" was literally an episode of Batman, "Almost Got'Im".
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HapiMerchant posted:I'm not sure whether Tropers will care, given it doesn't involve GRORIOUS NIPPON. If they do, they'll probably support her and her views because of who she is, rather then looking at the issue itself. I'm betting on 'Howl in outrage because who the gently caress does she think she is owning the copyright on something that's ours, OURS!!!, and actually being a writer and writing stuff that we could totally have done better and now she thinks she has the right to have opinions about poo poo too and keep on talking and existing after the books are finished and that bitch needs to shut the gently caress up and thank us.'
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Apple Tree posted:I'm betting on 'Howl in outrage because who the gently caress does she think she is owning the copyright on something that's ours, OURS!!!, and actually being a writer and writing stuff that we could totally have done better and now she thinks she has the right to have opinions about poo poo too and keep on talking and existing after the books are finished and that bitch needs to shut the gently caress up and thank us.' Perhaps with a "STOP TALKING SCOTLAND DOWN!  " thrown in for good measure, depending on how politically aware they are.
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Jun 13, 2014 20:10
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Tropers say enough dumb things on their own, there's no need to imagine up dumb things that they totally would say. From the amazing Sexism and Men's Issues thread: Odins Left Eye posted:
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Apple Tree posted:I'm betting on 'Howl in outrage because who the gently caress does she think she is owning the copyright on something that's ours, OURS!!!, and actually being a writer and writing stuff that we could totally have done better and now she thinks she has the right to have opinions about poo poo too and keep on talking and existing after the books are finished and that bitch needs to shut the gently caress up and thank us.' I'm pretty sure most of them like J.K. Rowling actually.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Tropers say enough dumb things on their own, there's no need to imagine up dumb things that they totally would say. Yup you know us ladies always flashing our vaginas at each other to see whose is more uh
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Hey thread, was there a troper who seriously overused the word quip in a story of theirs? Like almost every time someone spoke it was like "he quipped", "she quipped playfully", etc?
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purple_sammich posted:Hey thread, was there a troper who seriously overused the word quip in a story of theirs? Like almost every time someone spoke it was like "he quipped", "she quipped playfully", etc? there's been plenty that tried desperately (and hilariously) to avoid using the word 'said' ever, but i can't recall anyone who just used 'quipped'. its such a dumb word anyways. quip. quip. quip. what is a 'quip' anyways? I know the troper definition is 'said something funny and cool in a baddass one liner way' but was IS an actual "quip"?
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Jun 14, 2014 04:31
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Check the Civilian Tom excerpts a few pages back y'all.
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HapiMerchant posted:there's been plenty that tried desperately (and hilariously) to avoid using the word 'said' ever, but i can't recall anyone who just used 'quipped'. its such a dumb word anyways. quip. quip. quip. what is a 'quip' anyways? I know the troper definition is 'said something funny and cool in a baddass one liner way' but was IS an actual "quip"? I associate "quip" with Joss Whedon dialogue and evidently tropers do the same thing. A quip supposed to be a funny or clever remark but when tropers have their characters quip it's just embarrassing. TheIncredulousHulk posted:Check the Civilian Tom excerpts a few pages back y'all. Well, that's what made me ask, actually. I saw it a few times in there but I'm so sure there was another troper who went totally overboard with it. I could be wrong, though!
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I love how absolutely rear end backwards Tropers get with regards to writing and structure. It is such loving common knowledge to avoid using alternatives for said unless you mean to emphasize a point. A good writer can convey tone without the need for a quip, a riposte, or a growl. "Said" is a drat useful word, and Tropers hate it like the plague.
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Cargo cult creative culture creates crap.
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If they used common, pedestrian words, like said, how could they possibly prove what talented special snowflake authors they are!
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My understanding is that "said" went out of fashion a few decades back, and every writing authority suggested using synonyms. It's back in fashion at the moment, and presumably tropers are just trying to anticipate the trend when it becomes unfashionable once more.
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It all comes back to Orwell's essay, which can be boiled down to "stop trying to sound smarter than you are, use simple words, and focus on structure before you add style, you idiots."
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