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Symbolic Butt posted:Hiding the missing button was a pretty nifty move, goddamn Jinho. The part that I thought was funny, was the idea that the youth today have less empathy Also I think the audience is automatically wary of Jinho because of The Genius
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Hat Thoughts posted:Also I think the audience is automatically wary of Jinho because of The Genius There's also the extra clues that were released to the viewers, which is likely to be the stuff the investigators missed (ie. the fast clock, the dent in the flute) so they could well have had much more to go on.
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Jun 5, 2014 13:34
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Teek posted:Crime Scene episode 4 killer reveal: Did spoilers leak for this episode ahead of time? The audience seemed so heavily against Jinho the whole time in their ongoing polls. While a lot of the evidence did really point to him, it didn't seem any more than usual. When they were searching for the button in the art room and the bathroom I kept wondering why they didn't check the basketball court too. That would have cleared Jack. But I'm impressed they picked up on the button thing at all. Seriously, hidden in painty water and then noticing Jack had rolled up sleeves was a pretty big accomplishment to begin with. And the problem was Jinho's motive was kind of subtle and he hid the missing button. I think voting Jack was fair other than the obvious button sitting on the basketball court. It was better than voting Maggie.
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Jun 5, 2014 16:59
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Honestly the whole button thing seemed so contrived that I thought John had fabricated it, and it convinced me he was somehow the killer despite any real evidence. I assumed he'd just pulled a button off his own clothes and 'found it' in the water. I guess that would be against the rules, though? That's actually one thing this case did way better than the first: make it clear how much information is provided to the suspects on their character. With the first case I had a hard time judging anyone's testimony because I was never sure if they were just improvising responses without any real basis.
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Chainsawdomy posted:Honestly the whole button thing seemed so contrived that I thought John had fabricated it, and it convinced me he was somehow the killer despite any real evidence. I assumed he'd just pulled a button off his own clothes and 'found it' in the water. I guess that would be against the rules, though? Yeah its pretty unclear how gamey you can be in this.
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Soylentbits posted:I feel like the mysteries should be finished in one episode. I really agree with this. I feel like a good 30+ minutes could be cut from each episode and things would play out quite well, especially with the pace they set this episode.
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Jun 5, 2014 18:37
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Jinho made that pretty enjoyable- shades of Genius Game lying and play there. I wish I understood the "rules" better. They mentioned players aren't allowed to lie, and I assume they can't mess with the scene, but I guess they can mess with their clothes?
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Jun 6, 2014 01:38
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The people voting for their first choice until the end goes against the whole point of having an investigation in the first place. The only two people who I think are actually on the level are Jinho and the lady the played Maggie this week. EDIT: Oh and John who actually kinda had something with the button.
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Jun 6, 2014 02:38
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I still can't believe the producers were so confident in that button being found that they had a misdirection missing button
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Jun 6, 2014 02:51
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Henry's gone 2 for 2 so far. I wish they kept him on because he's honestly pretty entertaining.
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Jun 9, 2014 23:18
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No episode quite yet, but this is some awesome news, new upcoming guest. https://twitter.com/Bumdidlyump/status/476523416540164096
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BSam posted:No episode quite yet, but this is some awesome news, new upcoming guest. This is great! A game like this plays up Sunggyu's strengths especially if he's the killer
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Jun 11, 2014 06:22
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Episode 5 up. The guest this time does a great job I thought, and I liked the idea of the other special guest also.
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Yeah, having a guest who's on task does a lot of improve things. Not that Henry wasn't fun, it's just a nice change a pace though. Figure the water has to play some part. The one woman who was feeling sleepy also is suspicious, in that if she and the victim drank something, the victim just more so than her, the victim could have been knocked out and then killed in some way.
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This was the best episode so far IMO. I really like the idea of having a real detective there The cause of death is obviously poison and/or heart attack but it makes me wonder if it's something more sophisticated than poisoning her drink. Probably not tho, I just tend to think things that are too simple on a TV show are always wrong 
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Jun 11, 2014 22:21
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Latest episode is starting to get good. Having the real detective there is adding some solid intensity, and though Henry owned, his silliness was somewhat detracting when people are caught by lies/evidence. Everyone here is keeping serious enough to make things "real".
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I was wondering what was up with all the new posts, guess it's time for more fantastic Korean showtime with Crime Scene. Also, if anyone needs their Genius Fix until season 3, I recommend the manga Liar Game. It has a lot of Genius-esque games, often won through tricks that make the Genius tricks look obvious.
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I like how Hyunmoo just can't avoid sounding suspicious as heck in every episode.
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Looks like some of you are getting your wish!Bumdidlyump posted:Lim Banggeul had to pull out of Crime Scene because of her schedule. Kang Yongsuk will replace her and it'll be 1 episode per case now. I'm curious when this is taking effect though. I'm guessing it's taking place after the next case?
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Jun 14, 2014 19:27
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I just looked this guy up and apparently he was expelled from his party for making sexually harassing remarks at a student dinner. Really, Crime Scene?
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She was the really smart one, right? That sucks. Also it's kind of funny I don't know any of their names on this show except Jinho and Henry. edit: No, rechecking ep 1 and it seems like Park Ji Yoon: the smart lady Lim Bang Geul: the lawyer NS Yoon Ji: Woman who always plays the secretary/nurse etc Hong Jinho: Jinho Jun Hyun Moo: Host/player guy Not a big loss then, the lawyer didn't really do much ever Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jun 15, 2014 |
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I really like the detective, and think it would be cool if they just let him play for real.
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Zythrst posted:I really like the detective, and think it would be cool if they just let him play for real. He's not an entertainer tho, it seems to me like they wouldn't want him to make a fool of himself.
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I love the banter between the MC and the ladies. "You may not believe it, but I'm 53." "I believe it!" "You are the devil."
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Loved the detective and I'm so happy that he was featured. Looking forward to more older generation players bringing that to the table.
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Oh hey, ep 6 is out.
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I'm curious how the show will do with the format change, on one hand, it'll be nice to see the cases resolved instantly, but it could just make things seem rushed
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Pretty good episode! I'm glad things went the way I expected. Looking forward to the killer reveal in one episode too! This just means we get to see more cases this season, it can only be a good thing! One more reason to love Korean T.V., no way an American show would change anything about its format mid-season just because of viewer feedback.
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So if Lim Bang Geul is leaving, who gets her gold? She and Jinho were tied for first. Also, I really like Park Ji Yoon, especially how she and Jinho have recognized each others' competency and teamed up. I'd love to see her on the Genius next season. Gyre posted:I just looked this guy up and apparently he was expelled from his party for making sexually harassing remarks at a student dinner. Really, Crime Scene? Yeah, what the hell? He does not have a flattering wikipedia page; apparently he's some sort of South Korean Roger Stone.
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Man I'm bad at this show. Show of hands about the murderer. Who changed their mind on the murderer based on her crying? Just me?
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Soylentbits posted:Man I'm bad at this show. I did. I also thought it was Jinho because he kept laughing like a maniac. Really great episode. Jun Hyun Moo, Jinho, Park Ji Yoon and NS Yoon Ji are really great. Lim Bang Geul was okay but she leaving is not a huge loss.
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Good stuff, I wasn't swayed by the crying, because I felt she could have been crying genuinely even if she was guilty. On the other hand, I sort of felt throughout that the evidence against the secretary was almost too good, and kept expecting something a little more damning to show up for another character. I mean come on guys motive is all well with the security guard, but opportunity is kind of a big one to overlook. 
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Soylentbits posted:Man I'm bad at this show. edit: Oh yeah, I forgot about the Director's lighter being used to set off the alarms, that's another knock against the secretary. Man, she just had so much evidence stacked against her, sucks for her haha Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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I'm just happy that finally the audience didn't vote for the correct culprit and the cast members did.
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Also I think the best way to do it is one episode per case but don't reveal the criminal until the start of the next episode. That way the fans and viewers can discuss their suspicions up until the next episode. As is now, you can do that too, but half the evidence hasn't been revealed yet so it's pointless, and when they go to one episode per case it will be over before anyone gets a chance to talk. Although I do admit leaving someone locked in a cage is a cool way to end an episode.
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qbert posted:I'm just happy that finally the audience didn't vote for the correct culprit and the cast members did. Seemed like the voting always swung into whatever direction the detective was in 
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Soylentbits posted:Man I'm bad at this show. Same. 3 cases and I got all of them wrong.  I never changed my mind though, I was just sure it was the employee after a certain point.
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This time I actually got it right. I interpreted the crying as a genuine reaction to being at a dead-end, and the secretary kept talking about how the culprit needs to not be her, rather than who they need to get. Giving up and going "fine vote me" was the nail in the coffin since it's a real stupid gambit to make and can only possibly pay off if you're the criminal.
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