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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:Since it was SF who nabbed him, who would even get the bounty *woosh*
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BigDave posted:In Middle East news, Obama must have popped a Xanax to get over his war-phobia because 300 American Special Forces are Iraq bound. Word is they're taking a lesson from the Chelmian Special Forces and having each soldier riding on a table carried by four Iraqis to ensure their boots never touch the ground
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Hilary is giving an interview over CNN now with questions from the audience. its mostly softball poo poo and recent general history (iraq didnt sign agreement) but most interesting thing so far is she didn't rule out working with iran. interesting after the pentagon was like lol no yesterday and past administrations have taken a very hard line against them. i think the answer was along the lines of at this time not without some serious guarantees and knowing more. still not a no also she mentioned that maliki is meeting with Suleimani in baghdad like right now as we speak in this interview and iran wants to use their troops and do for him what they did for syria, bulwark him and fold him in
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Edit: Redacted due to hurt fee-fees. 
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NYT reports Iraqs largest oil refinery fell to Islamic extremists Wednesday morning, after army helicopter gunships failed to beat back an attack on the facility according to refinery workers, eyewitnesses and an Iraqi army officer who fled the scene General Atta denied that the refinery has fallen but reports out of Baiji contradict that assessment.
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Waroduce posted:NYT reports Iraqs largest oil refinery fell to Islamic extremists Wednesday morning, after army helicopter gunships failed to beat back an attack on the facility according to refinery workers, eyewitnesses and an Iraqi army officer who fled the scene "We have complete control over Baiji and the oil refinery." General Atta went on to say.  General Atta. C/O Reuters photography.
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I'm beginning to suspect America just isn't very good at establishing local militaries that can take care of the country after the marines ditch the place. Someone double-check those US bases in Europe people make fun off are still getting funded in the next budget.
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Courthouse posted:I'm beginning to suspect America just isn't very good at establishing local militaries that can take care of the country after the marines ditch the place. Someone double-check those US bases in Europe people make fun off are still getting funded in the next budget. You say that like it's phenomenally easy to pull off.
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Jun 18, 2014 17:20
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Well if you kill all adult males before you leave.
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Jun 18, 2014 17:49
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gleep gloop posted:Well if you kill all adult males before you leave. That's the Konami code for nation building.
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gleep gloop posted:Well if you kill all adult males before you leave. Conduct a decimation World War Z (the book, not the stupid movie) style. Line up all males 13-65. Each tenth man is stoned to death by the other nine.
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Jun 18, 2014 18:04
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I;m the Crassus in the OP
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holocaust bloopers posted:You say that like it's phenomenally easy to pull off. There is a explanation much more complex than 'Army Dumb' here, but at this point how long is the list of invaded countries that didn't collapse to insurgency after the US left? 
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It's almost like governments or regimes set up that don't really have popular support fall apart the moment the people propping them up bail.
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Courthouse posted:There is a explanation much more complex than 'Army Dumb' here, but at this point how long is the list of invaded countries that didn't collapse to insurgency after the US left? It's an incredible track record considering how badly Iraq and Afghanistan desperately wanted to change. Crazy how bad we fumbled on both those countries.
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The Iraqi army sucks because peasants join to be led by corrupt idiots in exchange for housing and
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My favorite Iraqi Army story is the time a fellow platoon was tasked with escorting a delivery of supplies to an IA base and the IA general refused to let them deliver those supplies, for free, to the IA without he himself getting handed a wad of cash. Neither us nor the contractors had a wad of cash available or considered this a possibility, but then the local SF detachment talked to the IA general and either they set him straight or just as likely gave him something and in any case the delivery occurred so the platoon could go home. Yep, I'd say we were about three years from that place becoming a free and fair democratic ally, a real beacon of hope in the middle east, before obummer cutted and runned.
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Basically if the problem with the IA was "incapable of firing or maintaining rifles" then yes, go ahead and blame the trainers, but if the problem is instead "soldiers run away at first sight of actual fighting, leadership absent, army has gone unpaid for months despite very generous US financial support" then that's more of a big picture issue.
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The US has a really good record of Army building when it has multiple generations to work on it. You really need to be able to identify worthwhile dudes if possible still in post-secondary ed and work them up through at least the O-6/O-7 level. In Iraq we only got serious about it for long enough to push guys up one, maybe two ranks (if they didn't get assassinated first) with no real chances to purge the useless, and that just doesn't cut it. Mr. Nice! posted:It's almost like governments or regimes set up that don't really have popular support fall apart the moment the people propping them up bail. Maliki has popular support, a heavy plurality if not a majority, but it's entirely on geographic and ideological lines, and the geographically and ideologically united minority has run the cost-benefit on continuing to get shafted politically vice all-out rebellion, and the results are clear. That's the same situation that got us our Civil War.
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Courthouse posted:There is a explanation much more complex than 'Army Dumb' here, but at this point how long is the list of invaded countries that didn't collapse to insurgency after the US left? What, starting with Mexico?
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Vietnam,
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:Grenada went pretty well If you count a 80.000 population rock in the sea with no army as a country, I guess. 
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Genocide Tendency posted:General Atta went on to say. I believe you mean "Baghdad Bob". That or "General Baghdad Bob-Atta".
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thetechnoloser posted:I believe you mean "Baghdad Bob". That or "General Baghdad Bob-Atta". for fucks sake
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thetechnoloser posted:I believe you mean "Baghdad Bob". That or "General Baghdad Bob-Atta". Whoooooooosh
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thetechnoloser posted:I believe you mean "Baghdad Bob". That or "General Baghdad Bob-Atta". "It has been rumored that we have fired scud missiles into Kuwait. I am here now to tell you, we do not have any scud missiles and I don't know why they were fired into Kuwait."
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Blind Rasputin posted:"It has been rumored that we have fired scud missiles into Kuwait. I am here now to tell you, we do not have any scud missiles
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In GLORIOUS NIPPON news, child porn was finally banned......but you get a year to destroy it and hosed up kiddy fucker cartoons are still a-ok http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/asia/japan-child-porn-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t4 Drives me loving nuts that western imperialists are basically forcing their values onto nippon with this barbaric poo poo...imo...(trigger warning: joke)
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Reminder that Japan allowed a video game to be made and sold where you can graphically rape children. Should have nuked them a couple more times tbqh.
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Actually we should have let them continue to be the badass alpha bushido rulers of Asia.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Actually we should have let them continue to be the badass alpha bushido rulers of Asia. yes i agree n4i we caused this
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how do they identify child porn in japan serious question
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:how do they identify child porn in japan serious question it's whatever the otaku freaks import from japan.
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:how do they identify child porn in japan serious question All porn is child porn as we are all children of God. SMH.
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if they're not flat go up to bat* *does not apply to japan
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I'd imagine the children whimper less.
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But in Japan don't they just blur out all the faces and parts in their porn? Because cataract rates are so high after Hiroshima? Not child porn if you can't see their face.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Reminder that Japan allowed a video game to be made and sold where you can graphically rape children. Should have nuked them a couple more times tbqh. And Parsons did a hentai review of the game complete with pics which is still available for some reason.
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