genderstomper58 posted:On the other hand, a $9,000 bonus for a senior executive is laughably small so I dunno I don't see the big deal about it heh That's like a 6% bonus going off the median pay in their scale. Figure it skews more towards the low end and it still only goes up to 7%. That is indeed poo poo. On the other hand, the VA is poo poo and I'm glad I don't need them for anything other than the last year of my GI Bill.
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It means admins were faking numbers and screwing vets over for chump change, is what it means
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Snowdens Secret posted:It means admins were faking numbers and screwing vets over for chump change, is what it means Well yeah, they're government employees. They're lazy and/or stupid and/or scum.
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:Well yeah, they're government employees. They're lazy and/or stupid and/or scum. This why I want a government job so I can continue to be lazy, stupid, and be scum while still having pretty good benefits despite being nothing but a detriment on humanity itself
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It means they are executives. Did you know that executive is derived from the word execute, meaning someone that should be executed?
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Syncopated posted:It means they are executives. Did you know that executive is derived from the word execute, meaning someone that should be executed? take up the mantle of violent revolution and i will join you brother. inshallah
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redistribute your wealth or we'll redistribute your blood
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:redistribute your wealth or we'll redistribute your blood Miss that scamp 
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At this point can we fire everyone and hire bill gates to lead the new VA
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Reverand maynard posted:At this point can we fire everyone and hire bill gates to lead the new VA If the problem is "incompetent people are getting paid too much and promoted too often" then Microsoft under Bill Gates is not the positive example you are looking for. Also same for the "our customers hate us" problem. For real it seems the VA has 3 very big issues: 1) Incapable of providing required services with available funding. With the surge in veterans needing help due to the wars, the economic doldrums forcing veterans to turn to the VA rather than employer health care, and the lack of commensurate funding increases no level of management genius can fix that particular problem. My girlfriend's stepdad is a VA doctor and his caseload just keeps increasing past what is possible to service and the only solution appears to be "pretend this isn't the case and don't talk about it." This is a political problem. 2) Lack of customer friendliness. This is a management problem. 3) Lack of efficiency. Fixing this is not even close to being enough to take care of 1 but it is something that impacts the bottom line and also makes 2 worse. This is also a management problem. The thing is even if you got some brilliant management that fixed 2 and 3, that would be great, but then all the people who they pissed off fixing 2 and 3 would have their knives out and blame them for 1, which they can't fix. That said it would be pretty cool if we started asking business innovators to step in to government service. Though the last time that was tried it didn't really work out too well with the whole Vietnam thing.
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Has anyone come out with any estimates of to what degree the VA is underfunded -v- how big a tax bureaucratic inefficiencies are? It's simple enough to say the problem would be fixed if only there was enough money, and I'm sure that is a major part of it. But it is also the theme song to every incompetent leader trying to deflect blame for his own lack of management skills.
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That is a good point. It is such a partisan issue it is hard to get a clear answer on it. I wonder if the CBO has dived into it. What is pretty clear is that there is not enough money spent on actual medical care provision but if that is because the money doesn't exist or the money gets lit on fire is unclear. Also on VA inefficiency, there is going to be some "positive" inefficiency in all the unemployed vets who get hired for jobs that could probably be outsourced or eliminated with greater efficiency. That said, the mission of providing health care comes first so if there is a lack of health care services provided due to this, then it by all rights still belongs on the chopping block.
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Here is this: http://www.cbo.gov/publication/21773 quote:The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that the future costs for VA to treat enrolled veterans will be substantially higher (in inflation-adjusted dollars) than recent appropriations for that purpose, partly because more veterans are likely to seek care in the VA system but mostly because health care costs per enrolled veteran are projected to increase faster than the overall price level. Under two scenarios that CBO examined, the total real resources (in 2010 dollars) necessary to provide health care services to all veterans who seek treatment at VA would range from $69 billion to $85 billion in 2020, representing cumulative increases of roughly 45 percent to 75 percent since 2010. It's from 2010 though.
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Some of it is probably partially a civil service problem as well. There aren't enough people to do the job, and it's really fuckin hard to fire the ones that are there, but not doing the job well. Management can only do so much in the latter situation. You can't force someone to care, and even if you could just fire all the people that are barely pulling their weight, you're now stuck with a lot less people doing the same job.
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On top of all of the red tape paperwork and poo poo that the VA loves to make the center of patient care instead of, you know, the patient, the pay sucks and the turnover rate is insanely high. I don't blame any VA employee who bails on them because the whole system is just poo poo. Imo..
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isn't the va gonna start letting people go to doctors that aren't at your local VA clusterfuck hospital if you live too far away? that should help right? it won't
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The VA was known to be a bureaucratic quicksand pit you wanted to do anything to avoid falling in at least as far back as the '90s, this isn't a new issue. No one gave a gently caress about vets in the '90s, though. Good news, the Egyptian Army has cured AIDS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVq8xbmq_j8 Iraq vets would enjoy watching to about the minute mark to see the AIDS detection apparatus they've invented
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Snowdens Secret posted:Iraq vets would enjoy watching to about the minute mark to see the AIDS detection apparatus they've invented lmao holy poo poo the brit dude that invented that thing must be jesus or something
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Unreal. They're doing this a second time?
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Snowdens Secret posted:The VA was known to be a bureaucratic quicksand pit you wanted to do anything to avoid falling in at least as far back as the '90s, this isn't a new issue. No one gave a gently caress about vets in the '90s, though. Holy poo poo  I can't believe that people are this dumb.
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That's some North Korea level bullshit right there.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:That's some North Korea level bullshit right there. Nah, they don't need an AIDS cure because AIDS isn't in North Korea.
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FIDEL CASHFLOW posted:Nah, they don't need an AIDS cure because AIDS isn't in North Korea. That was the one really plausible thing that struck me from the World War Z movie: Best Korea defeats the zombie virus by pulling everyone's teeth.
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Holy poo poo. "Molecular signature of the virus" "Complete Curing Device" "No Side Effects"
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Pretty loving smart not to export so they can corner the lucrative medical tourism market (and not have it immediately debunked by scientists)
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It even breaks the virus down into healthy, nutritious amino acids for your cells! Amazing!
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Snowdens Secret posted:The VA was known to be a bureaucratic quicksand pit you wanted to do anything to avoid falling in at least as far back as the '90s, this isn't a new issue. No one gave a gently caress about vets in the '90s, though. Wonder how long before their detractors discover the truth; the detector is bullshit and the machine does not work. because it's run by zionists who trick you into thinking you have AIDS so they can steal your blood and replace it with that of a pig 
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That video is like three years old
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Cole posted:That video is like three years old GODDAMN SHUT UP
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:GODDAMN SHUT UP
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:GODDAMN SHUT UP
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:GODDAMN SHUT UP
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Cole posted:That video is like three years old just loving kills yourself you little dweeb
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any bets on when the next stage of the Ukraine/Russia border war starts? My guess: Russian World Cup elimination being blamed by a FIFA/Ukraine conspiracy somehow. ex..."that laser blinding the russian goalie came from a Ukrainian". quantumfoam fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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I want to learn after the fact that it was a Russian agent with the laser.
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So this happened yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVehcuJXe6I
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Also, Maliki says Iraq is buying Russian jets, because F-16 deliveries are too slow for his taste. Since they don't have the time to train all their pilots in a new aircraft type, I'm guessing he's also opting for the special Russian "trainers" that deliver the planes and then fly them in local colors.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Also, Maliki says Iraq is buying Russian jets, because F-16 deliveries are too slow for his taste. Since they don't have the time to train all their pilots in a new aircraft type, I'm guessing he's also opting for the special Russian "trainers" that deliver the planes and then fly them in local colors. Maliki is an idiot and I can't imagine how he plans to seal a deal, get the planes, ammunition and support equipment into position given that ISIS is already within oh-poo poo range of the ISF's airbases in the region, which Saddam helpfully built in Sunni areas near the capital AKA the front line. E: Obviously the answer is that he doesn't plan to, he's so full of poo poo he can lie down in the streets of Baghdad and disappear.
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The point of the deal isn't to get the planes, it's to kiss up to the Russians. E: The knock-on effect in the Middle East of kissing up to Russians is to show you're not an American lackey, which as stated before is a key survival technique
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