Jerry Cotton posted:Was that where the side ended or was that the spot where you thought "this movie is too loving stupid I'll just flip it to see if the end is any better?" Just going to quote this again in case anyone misses the post above me, so everyone can no for certain how complete wrong you are. I bet you're getting it confused with 5, the one with the dumbass rocket boots. That one's notoriously awful. 
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I'm not sure I've ever seen any Star Trek movies apart form the whale one.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I'm not sure I've ever seen any Star Trek movies apart form the whale one. In all seriousness if you haven't at least seen Wrath of Khan you're missing out on a stupid amount of jokes because that one managed to get really far into pop culture for some reason.
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Shugojin posted:In all seriousness if you haven't at least seen Wrath of Khan you're missing out on a stupid amount of jokes because that one managed to get really far into pop culture for some reason. It's alright, I don't really listen to paedophile comedians.
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star trek vi rules
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Code Jockey posted:Oh man so that laserdisc player I got over a month ago has just been sitting collecting dust since I didn't have an s-video cable to run to my projector for it [and gently caress composite video]. If any other obsolete technology enthusiasts have this problem, PM me. I have a bunch of S video cables sitting around and will sell them for cost of postage plus a dollar ($3 or so) instead of scrapping them
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the best star trek movie was galaxy quest
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A Pinball Wizard posted:the best star trek movie was galaxy quest A-freaking-men. I love that movie.
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Shugojin posted:In all seriousness if you haven't at least seen Wrath of Khan you're missing out on a stupid amount of jokes because that one managed to get really far into pop culture for some reason. It was a hell of a thing when Spock died.
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Coffee And Pie posted:It was a hell of a thing when Spock died. If you've seen Wrath of Khan, watching the newest Star Trek movie will really be a lot different... I had seen it, my fiance hadn't, so I was the one who ended up saying "Oh, what, loving really?" in the theater.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:the best star trek movie was galaxy quest I'm pretty sure I've seen most of it on TV but I'm watching it (off VHS of course) on Friday when I'll most probably be hung over. My brother-in-law dumped all his VHS tapes on me and I've still got two boxes left watch.
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Jun 26, 2014 02:10
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Hmm... the best in obsolete and failed technology... Nah, pretty sure everyone who reads this thread already thought about posting that one.
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Varance posted:Hmm... the best in obsolete and failed technology...  http://i.imgur.com/AMfK27e.pnge: I count at least two.
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Just saw this amazing piece of tech hackery on hackaday from 1987: http://hackaday.com/2014/06/25/retrotechtacular-kodak-built-worlds-first-dslr-using-a-nikon-camera-body/ quote:The Electro-Optic Camera was designed and constructed by Eastman Kodak Company under a U.S. Government contract in 1987 and 1988. Kodak's Microelectronics Technology Division (MTD) had announced the first megapixel CCD in 1986. In 1987, a government customer asked Kodak's Federal Systems Division (FSD) to build a prototype camera around the new CCD. It was a true skunk works project with a very small team. Ken Cupery was the project manager. I (Jim McGarvey) was the lead engineer. MTD engineer Bill Toohey designed the CCD analog circuitry, and technician Tom McCarthy assembled the whole system. http://eocamera.jemcgarvey.com/
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Jun 26, 2014 08:41
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Ha, I see "bookmark" is literally book+mark in Finnish as well.
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Computer viking posted:Ha, I see "bookmark" is literally book+mark in Finnish as well. Actually book's+mark 
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Jerry Cotton posted:Actually book's+mark Oh yeah, -n tends to be a genitive or something functionally similar, right? (All observations based on about two months in Helsinki with no effort made to learn the language beyond extrapolating from signs and bus tickets and such).
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Jun 26, 2014 18:08
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Jerry Cotton posted:
Tab number 9": "How to Identify a Female"
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Jun 26, 2014 18:34
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Johnny Aztec posted:Tab number 9": "How to Identify a Female" There are only four tabs 
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Johnny Aztec posted:Tab number 9": "How to Identify a Female" Also it's undoubtedly 'Font' based on the other tab he has about trying to find a font.
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Humphreys posted:Just saw this amazing piece of tech hackery on hackaday from 1987: To give you an idea of how quickly the digital imaging world progresses. This is the RED "ONE", released 2007 and costing around $50k USD on release.  This is the camera your Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers are generally shot on. Fully kitted out with lenses, and basic accessories it weighs about 13kg, but easily bloats to anywhere of 20kg and upwards. It takes a full 90 seconds to boot up, crashed regularly and got so hot handheld operators would complain of facial burns. It was essentially a 2007 era computer trying to throw a 25MB/s (that's bytes not bits) video stream around and it was not happy about that at all. Camera Assistants like me used to carry icepacks and towels around for this camera. Further more it recorded to HDDs so they had to be suspended in shockcases (like little rubberband saftey nets) on the camera, hope it dosen't get bumped while recording! This is the EPIC. (picture is of the monochrome version but they all look the same) Released early 2011  She weighs about 1.5kg body only, I think the heaviest rig I've ever seen from one of these was something close to 10kg and that was us trying to be stupid. 5K video capture, with a max data rate of around 145MB/s, though no-one shoots at that compression level, you can make it do twice that if you like seeing SSDs catch on fire. But the point is, SOLID STATE MEDIA. The NEW sensor for the Epic shoots 6K. Literally 19 megapixels, per frame at 24/25 frames per second. So from facial burns and having to schedule "RED time" to 19 megapixels and built in night vision, kids these days don't know how lucky they are.
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Jun 29, 2014 02:30
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What's the cost difference between the two?
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Today you could probably pick up a ONE for like $10k with a bunch of accessories. But they were both about the same at release. ~$50k. I'm in Australia so my pricing might be a bit off.
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What about sound and video being in synch? Back then key to this all was the development of The Auricon.  Weighing about 14kg (30lbs), but the idea of a sound and visual automatically syncing onto a single roll of film was fantastic at the time. Robert Drew then took this camera, a $1 million grant from LIFE, and boiled it down to it's bare components and adding a handle so he could rest it on his shoulder. The operation of it was primarily trial and error as there wasn't any viewfinder so you had to learn where the camera was looking and hope it was in enough focus. It also meant you were freed up from the tripods culminating in the famous 85 second shot in Primary where the camera is held up above Kennedy's head as he walks through a crowd. Another innovative camera that wasn't as cobbled together in the shed was the Eclair NPR.  If anything this really was the breakout camera of the 60's as it combined tons of incredible features, one of which was a quick release magazine. Before you had to load up film through the camera body, so any reel changes meant you had to rush back to the dark-truck and fumble in the bag to get it all ready - nigh impossible for a doco shoot. It was also quiet, a must for any sound-synch as you didn't have to worry about hearing the motors whirring away while filming. Plus light, weighing at 20.5 lbs. Amusingly there's a story about George Lucas filming the mkaing of The Rain People in his doco The Filmmaker with a spare NPR and finding the camera too heavy so devised ways of shooting through glass tables or anywhere he could place the camera to support the weight. A doco about the evolution of documentary filming, mainly about Pennebaker And more about the cameras of the doco world.
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After doing some housecleaning this weekend, I found my brother's old MiniDisc recorder as well as 5 blank MiniDiscs. I'd love to use it just for the novelty but recording music onto the discs is an annoying process when pretty much all of my music collection is in a digital format on my PC. I'm not surprised that they didn't have a chance against flash and HDD MP3 players, but I find it interesting that Sony continued to ship MiniDisc Walkmans up until late 2011. At any rate, I'll keep the minidiscs themselves sitting around on my desk for decoration. They look like something you'd see in a movie when someone just broke into a top secret facility and needs to download and store some highly classified information, and I absolutely love that. 
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homewrecker posted:After doing some housecleaning this weekend, I found my brother's old MiniDisc recorder as well as 5 blank MiniDiscs. I'd love to use it just for the novelty but recording music onto the discs is an annoying process when pretty much all of my music collection is in a digital format on my PC. I'm not surprised that they didn't have a chance against flash and HDD MP3 players, but I find it interesting that Sony continued to ship MiniDisc Walkmans up until late 2011. Outside Japan they were still pretty popular as a recording medium for just about anything from music to voice etc.. I remember doing documentary projects with these things as late as 07 and the sound quality was still drat good for portable recording.
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I know a lot of synthesizers used diskettes and wonder if some later ones have used minidiscs?
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Minidiscs were really popular for Podcasting back when good quality microphones were more expensive. You could toss a minidisc recorder in the middle of a table and get pretty drat good audio (way better than with a laptop from the time period). Later prices on all that kind of gear came down significantly and now you can get a set of Podcast quality microphones and all the stuff to hook them up to computers along with popstoppers and such for less than five hundred, but back when Minidisc was in its heyday it was probably triple that. Also minidiscs were a lot more expandable than iPods at the time. Your average iPod was like 300+ dollars for ~30 gigs of storage and a minidisc player was cheaper and you could basically expand it at will, so instead of having to lay down a bunch of money for 30 gigs of storage you just had to buy more discs when you needed to convert more albums. They also had far superior bitrate to a lot of cheap MP3 players (hell, even the iPods and Creatives) and burning minidiscs was a lot easier than using some of the loving awful programs you had to use for MP3 players. No they have been made obsolete not by any MP3 players but by microSD cards in cellphones that pretty much preform the same stuff for cheaper. See also: that short period of time when companies kept trying to make MP3 players that plugged onto the top of thumbdrives.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I know a lot of synthesizers used diskettes and wonder if some later ones have used minidiscs? Those instruments use disks for MIDI data. Small files kind of equivalent to sheet music, but not audio data. There would be no real reason for MD.
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eddiewalker posted:Those instruments use disks for MIDI data. Small files kind of equivalent to sheet music, but not audio data. There would be no real reason for MD. They didn't use them for samples? How did they distribute those - memory cartridges?
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Captain Novolin posted:They were the first to do push e-mail, and that was 99% of why they ever got big. Once smartphones actually started coming over to the west RIM was hosed unless they could adapt. As you can tell, they haven't. Their CEO literally laughed when somebody asked if they through the iPhone was a threat. Inspector_666 has a new favorite as of 17:14 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:They didn't use them for samples? How did they distribute those - memory cartridges? I have an older Casio keyboard that uses proprietary cartridges to store MIDI files and settings, etc. The cartridges are about the same dimensions as a video game cartridge. Will get the model number and post pics soon. I don't have any carts for it but IIRC they are like 4MB capacity, so only a tiny bump up from floppies.
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p-hop posted:The cartridges are about the same dimensions as a video game cartridge. That... is one of the most meaningless statements I've read all day. I mean, somewhere in the range of GBA carts to NeoGeo carts?
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Jerry Cotton posted:They didn't use them for samples? How did they distribute those - memory cartridges? It was AKAI formatted CDs for a long time, then DVDs. You'd back up onto SyQuest carts, then later on to Zip drives. Right now I'm trying to get a sampler working that uses Toshiba SmartCards. It took a long time to find some, and now I'm testing it turns out that CDs load samples faster than the drat SmartCards.
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0dB posted:It was AKAI formatted CDs for a long time, then DVDs. Guess they're not that smart then eh? Minidiscs at least were sort of small.
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Minidiscs were the perfect floppy disk replacement, but Sony screwed up royally by making the MD Data format incompatible with audio MDs and by being their usual "my way or the highway" stubborn selves. We could have had 140MB of portable storage on physically-robust media in the early 90s, and 650MB by the late 90s. But they missed the train, and now flash drives rule. E: Hell, they could have completely replaced the CD for music by the late 90s, with a much more robust and compact format. They only implemented lossless audio in 2004 on the Hi-MD format, way too late. Physically, the MD was a masterpiece, but Sony implemented it with the grace of a sledgehammer to the face. KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 11:49 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Throw UMD into that mix as well. It pretty much was only designed for the PSP with no way the average consumer could create copies for themselves. Beyond Sony games it suffered from a poor adoption rate across the industry with few titles being released for movies or TV show. Japan (as always) did release some porn. Once people discovered how to image them and load them onto the device the hacking community pretty much set the way for future PSPs to be download or memory stick based. The first PSP pretty much was defined by the fact the hacking community turned it into a rather useful PMP or even allowed the original PSP to have video out via USB. If you ever hacked your PSP, chances are the only UMD you ever used was the demo disc to give some of the earlier firmwares a bit of a shove to think it had a disc in the drive. This was only slowed down by the fact that a 2gb or more Sony SD card was somewhat dear and even with a compressed ISO you had trouble squeezing it in.
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Jerry Cotton posted:They didn't use them for samples? How did they distribute those - memory cartridges? Synthesizers are not necessarily also samplers. Memory carts are used for preset storage as well - just the positions of each knob and slider, not the actual sound - those sounds were put in ROM. For some synthesizers, you bought a small circuit board with more ROM on it. The assumption for samplers was that you would load up your own sounds every time, so you didn't need anything built-in. On the Fairlight CMI you had big 8" floppy disks. Later samplers used floppies and briefly ZIP drives (though those were usually hooked up externally) - for the rest, CD-ROM and harddisk (all via SCSI and an utter pain to get to work). The computer-ish stuff that got put in most music instruments is usually a great example of obsolete technology; workstations with sampling capability that still used SIMMs when desktops didn't have them anymore for a decade or so.
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KozmoNaut posted:Minidiscs were the perfect floppy disk replacement, but Sony screwed up royally by making the MD Data format incompatible with audio MDs and by being their usual "my way or the highway" stubborn selves. I agree with you that MD could have replaced floppies, zip disk, CD-Rs, and (if the technology had continued to be developed) maybe even DVD's for computer storage if Sony had been smarter. But even if they had, we still would have them listed on this page as an obsolete technology because they still would have been replaced by flash storage.
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Lowen SoDium posted:I agree with you that MD could have replaced floppies, zip disk, CD-Rs, and (if the technology had continued to be developed) maybe even DVD's for computer storage if Sony had been smarter. But even if they had, we still would have them listed on this page as an obsolete technology because they still would have been replaced by flash storage. Oh yeah, definitely. But we could have had affordable decent-capacity removable storage way before we actually got it, had it not been for Sony's customary pig-headedness.
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