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Cursed Lumberjack posted:i guess this makes me sound like a republican rear end in a top hat but why not just seperate everyone entirely? jail isnt a social club and theres no reason to let the general jail pop socialize at all. why arent they just kept in their cells with food delivered at specific times? why do they get stabbing hours where they can stab people they dont like when you could just as easily run a jail where that is impossible? do you have any clue what solitary confinement does to someones psyche? you have to let them out at some point
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THS posted:do you have any clue what solitary confinement does to someones psyche? you have to let them out at some point why? i mean i get that not every prisoner is a terrible dude. we arrest people for stupid things and also terrible things, and thats why we have prisons of different security levels. but for violent offenders and places where violence is a huge problem, isnt it a better idea to just keep everyone seperated? has it been tried in modern times? educate me
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there are a ton of people in solitary confinement. its actually a pretty major human rights issue. another reason why we shouldnt treat people like complete dogshit and make them crazy is our justice system is ridiculously unfair and some of these people are innocent welcome to the republican party?
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Jul 5, 2014 08:13
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:why? It becomes a point of simple punishment with no rehabilitation aspect to it if you have someone in solitary 23hrs a day for years at a time or w/e, might as well just shoot em
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Jul 5, 2014 08:14
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Corey Plumper posted:It becomes a point of simple punishment with no rehabilitation aspect to it if you have someone in solitary 23hrs a day for years at a time or w/e, might as well just shoot em pretty much this, solitary is torture and turns crazy people even crazier.
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THS posted:there are a ton of people in solitary confinement. its actually a pretty major human rights issue. another reason why we shouldnt treat people like complete dogshit and make them crazy is our justice system is ridiculously unfair and some of these people are innocent maybe ill just never understand why its better to go crazy being alone than to get stabbed to death for stepping on someones shoes i mean, to me, it just seems like even if i was wrongfully imprisoned id rather go crazy in my own head than get stabbed for something stupid
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:why? Cause it makes people go even more batshit than they were before E: also most people don't end up getting stabbed in prison
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the best way of understanding this is looking at other countries that focus on rehabilitation of even violent offenders. far lower recidivism, far lower crimerates, education and counseling for prisoners, etc. being Tough On Crime is a perfect example of violence begats violence. youre just reinforcing a lovely society where prisoners have nothing to look forward to, no real reason or incentive not to be uncooperative assholes right now we have a terrible prison system that focuses on punishment, putting everyone in solitary would make the problem a lot worse. humans are social creatures and its pretty much the worst torture imaginable to be alone
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Most people that say "they like to be alone" are just people who spend most of their time socializing online. People will legit go crazy if they don't have human contact.
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Jul 5, 2014 08:18
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I'm not sure why everyone is attempting a complex argument here when the fact is that keeping our incredibly large prison population in true solitary would be more expensive (and we sure as poo poo don't need that)
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americong posted:I'm not sure why everyone is attempting a complex argument here when the fact is that keeping our incredibly large prison population in true solitary would be more expensive (and we sure as poo poo don't need that) maybe i dont really understand why it is cheaper. right now we keep people in cells and spend money to keep rec areas and mess areas running, why would it cost more to keep the cells but not keep the mess/rec areas?
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yeah consider that prisons are super loving overcrowded and a lot of them live like this
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americong posted:I'm not sure why everyone is attempting a complex argument here when the fact is that keeping our incredibly large prison population in true solitary would be more expensive (and we sure as poo poo don't need that) Most of us aren't jews who immediately think about the monetary consequences of a action
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:maybe i dont really understand why it is cheaper. right now we keep people in cells and spend money to keep rec areas and mess areas running, why would it cost more to keep the cells but not keep the mess/rec areas? you do understand this is how prisons used to be and it was loving torture right?
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:right now we keep people in cells and spend money to keep rec areas and mess areas running ahahahahahahaha
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THS posted:ahahahahahahaha lol if you dont think prisons are a moneymaking scheme in america
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when did i say otherwise. for profit is a totally different can of worms btw this is getting super fuckin off topic. if we want a prison thread someone should make one
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well there's not a lot of topic to cover. the guy did it and is being really obvious about doing it, to the point that his wife, having been told that she was under surveillance at the time, asked him "did you say to much?" today it came out that while in jail he was using his phone time to try to collect on the insurance policies. sooooooo
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Jul 5, 2014 08:24
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yeah and he will be convicted and serve an extremely long prison term or life
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THS posted:yeah and he will be convicted and serve an extremely long prison term or life well, you say that, but the south dont have a good track record with convicting white people we will see e: and i say this as a southerner who thinks the south is a decent place to live but drat we got some problems wrt convicting/arresting white folks
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I wonder what that does to the resale value of that car.
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:maybe i dont really understand why it is cheaper. right now we keep people in cells and spend money to keep rec areas and mess areas running, why would it cost more to keep the cells but not keep the mess/rec areas? Don't prisoners kinda run those though? If you couldn't give prisoners jobs to do you'd have to pay salaries for other people to do them.
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College Ruled posted:I wonder what that does to the resale value of that car. you just put "potential toddler ghost haunting back seat" and it becomes a huge hot thing on the internet, put up a kickstarter to get it sold and you're done
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Shithouse Dave posted:Don't prisoners kinda run those though? If you couldn't give prisoners jobs to do you'd have to pay salaries for other people to do them. i wouldnt know, having never been to prison nor looked into how it is run. i literally dont know anything and am asking people to tell me why stuff wouldnt work, i dont have any power over the prison system so theres no reason to freak out over me having ideas that would be stupid in practice
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:i wouldnt know, having never been to prison nor looked into how it is run. i literally dont know anything and am asking people to tell me why stuff wouldnt work, i dont have any power over the prison system so theres no reason to freak out over me having ideas that would be stupid in practice I don't really know either, but that's what they do on orange is the new black, and that one girl goon who was in arpaio jail had a prison job.
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Shithouse Dave posted:I don't really know either, but that's what they do on orange is the new black, and that one girl goon who was in arpaio jail had a prison job. im glad we have a safe space on the internet for goons to post assiduously about things of which they have absolutely no clue of the reality of the situation
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Alexzandvar posted:Most people that say "they like to be alone" are just people who spend most of their time socializing online. People will legit go crazy if they don't have human contact. True. The only human contact I have is reading posts on GBS and without I would lock myself in a hot car.
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:i wouldnt know, having never been to prison nor looked into how it is run. i literally dont know anything and am asking people to tell me why stuff wouldnt work, i dont have any power over the prison system so theres no reason to freak out over me having ideas that would be stupid in practice Shithouse Dave posted:I don't really know either, but that's what they do on orange is the new black, and that one girl goon who was in arpaio jail had a prison job. Cursed Lumberjack posted:im glad we have a safe space on the internet for goons to post assiduously about things of which they have absolutely no clue of the reality of the situation lol u suck
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Corridor posted:lol u suck penitentiary warden Corridor steps in to set the foolish goons straight on how his prisons are run
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you're incredibly thick!
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Titty Warlord posted:you're incredibly thick! and quite dumb as well!  
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THS posted:btw this is getting super fuckin off topic. shut up
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please dont be so mean
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we should totally have a prison thread but I do not care enough to make one did we ever figure out how complicit the mother was in all this
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Titty Warlord posted:you're incredibly thick! not just thick but long as well, the complete package
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:not just thick but long as well, the complete package lOL! 
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americong posted:we should totally have a prison thread but I do not care enough to make one At best guilty of wanton and wilful stupidity
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americong posted:we should totally have a prison thread but I do not care enough to make one when the daycare told her that her husband had never dropped off her child, she said "he must have left him in the car!" when the staff said that there could be any number of explanations, she said, "no, he must have left him in the car." she had googled how long it takes for a child/animal to die in a car, just as her husband had she was told that she would be under surveillance while visiting her husband in the jail and literally the first thing she asked upon seeing him was "did you say too much?!" while her mother was present (standing next to her) at the visitation so yeah
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:when the daycare told her that her husband had never dropped off her child, she said "he must have left him in the car!" when the staff said that there could be any number of explanations, she said, "no, he must have left him in the car." lmao I can't wait for the trial
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