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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Phone posted:

The bumpers are single stage as well on the Miata.

Until '99, all black and red Miatas were single stage, except for the plastic areas (bumpers and mirror caps), which were always cleared from the factory.

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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I think you might have that backwards. I've done my 94 and my friends 00.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Phone posted:

I think you might have that backwards. I've done my 94 and my friends 00.

I've owned a '92 black and '90 red. The only thing that I got wrong was that my list of cleared plastic parts was too short. Rear filler panel and hardtops were also cleared. http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=6274843&postcount=17

Also, at least the BRG ones were single-stage body panels, too. Maybe other colors. Definitely not the metallics, though... they were always all clearcoated.

meatpimp fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 15, 2014

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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meatpimp posted:

I've owned a '92 black and '90 red. The only thing that I got wrong was that my list of cleared plastic parts was too short. Rear filler panel and hardtops were also cleared. http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=6274843&postcount=17

That link mentions the color disparity between plastic and metal components, which us something I've seen on the road and am concerned about. My paint is pretty homogenous as it stands now; any special preventive measures I can take to keep it that way?

Mobius1B7R
Jan 27, 2008

I recently got my windshield replaced and now there's some weird film/residue left on the window that no amount of invisible glass will take off. The wipers just make it worse and it doesn't go away in the morning until you start driving. When you spray cleaner on it you can visibly see the residue. Any tips on more aggressive ways to get rid of it?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

blk posted:

That link mentions the color disparity between plastic and metal components, which us something I've seen on the road and am concerned about. My paint is pretty homogenous as it stands now; any special preventive measures I can take to keep it that way?

Red is one of the toughest colors to pick out differences, so if yours looks good to you, you'll probably be fine for as long as you have it. Just keep everything waxed and it's all good.


Mobius1B7R posted:

I recently got my windshield replaced and now there's some weird film/residue left on the window that no amount of invisible glass will take off. The wipers just make it worse and it doesn't go away in the morning until you start driving. When you spray cleaner on it you can visibly see the residue. Any tips on more aggressive ways to get rid of it?


The first thing I'd use, though, is a bug and tar remover, then follow with Simple Green, then Invisible Glass. You'd probably be good with that sequence.

Depending on how thick the film is, a clay bar may take it off, but clay gets gummed up pretty quickly with greasy stuff. You can also try a razor blade if the film is thick enough.

SlimManFat
Nov 12, 2010

RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST RUST
I've been detailing my own cars/cars for friends for years, but never really went in-depth into glass. Beyond claybaring and a tube of Canadian Tire glass polish, does anyone have any insight into it? I'm looking for a nice detailed article or video or something.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta
I know you can polish them with a rotary buffer and cerium oxide, I've been meaning to get the stuff to do that.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I got some myself to deal with a windscreen scuff, but sold the car before I had a chance to prove the concept.

So, uh, I don't know why I'm posting about it.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

I know I will be shot for this, but the non-aerosol ammonia-free armor all glass cleaner is the bees knees. Works awesome, no streaks, and super easy to use. Also cheap.

Your mileage may vary. I bought it because it was the cheapest ammonia-free glass cleaner and have been way more impressed with it than any aerosol cleaner (and I have tried them all).

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

CountOfNowhere posted:

I know I will be shot for this, but the non-aerosol ammonia-free armor all glass cleaner is the bees knees. Works awesome, no streaks, and super easy to use. Also cheap.

Your mileage may vary. I bought it because it was the cheapest ammonia-free glass cleaner and have been way more impressed with it than any aerosol cleaner (and I have tried them all).

I don't think anyone is going to put you down range for that, but have you compared it to the very common suggestion (and what I use) of Stoner Invisible Glass?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Not all Armor All stuff is crap. I like their aerosol foam tyre dressing, for example.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

InitialDave posted:

Not all Armor All stuff is crap. I like their aerosol foam tyre dressing, for example.

Agreed, that stuff works great.

For glass cleaning I go with Invisible Glass or Sprayaway. Both are about equally good.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004



Motronic posted:

I don't think anyone is going to put you down range for that, but have you compared it to the very common suggestion (and what I use) of Stoner Invisible Glass?

Yup and IMHO the armor all stuff is much better.

RIP Paul Walker fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 18, 2014

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter
I've got some weird streaking on my instrument cluster that is driving me nuts. It's not dirty, it's been damaged when someone tried to clean it with something wrong. I just purchased the car this month.



Any ideas how I can polish this out? It's such a critical part of the car I'm nervous to experiment with anything (I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas). It's a 2011 Ford Fusion.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta
I'd probably hit that with diluted rubbing alcohol to prep it and then tape off the surrounding area and use rubbing compound or headlight polish on it. If that doesn't take then I'd remove the cluster and wetsand with 2000 grit following up with polish. Wait for someone else to concur before following my recommendation though!

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

I'd try more cleaners before starting with the polishing. Its probably residue from something like armor all. I had something really similar and a series of rubbing alcohol, goo gone (not goof off!), and vinegar finally got it all off.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Just cleaned a nasty old melamine bathroom floor with a couple of Magic Erasers and my Porter Cable buffer.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

StormDrain posted:

I've got some weird streaking on my instrument cluster that is driving me nuts. It's not dirty, it's been damaged when someone tried to clean it with something wrong. I just purchased the car this month.



Any ideas how I can polish this out? It's such a critical part of the car I'm nervous to experiment with anything (I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas). It's a 2011 Ford Fusion.
I'd try Meguiar's Plast-X.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005
Can someone recommend me a great black wax?

I am also looking to buy a bunch of microfiber towels, amazon?

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

always be closing posted:

I am also looking to buy a bunch of microfiber towels, amazon?

Costco.

Rubiks Pubes
Dec 5, 2003

I wanted to be a neo deconstructivist, but Mom wouldn't let me.
I buy my microfiber from the Rag Company. Their stuff is way nicer than costco stuff and not overly expensive.

Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?
Hello obsessive friends, is this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Autoglym-Surface-Detailing-Clay-Pieces/dp/B002N1YAT6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404317758&sr=8-1&keywords=clay+bar
a waste of money? I've got an awfully grubby black car, and I'd like to get it a bit cleaner than usual next time.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
That's probably a pretty reasonable kit, but if you already have wax etc and just want to clay, you can get 100g of Meguiar's clay and a bottle of detailer at Halfords for £18, and they've got a 3-for-2 on at the moment (although they'll do a bar of clay alone for £10, it's only a 50g bar).

If you want an all-in-one kit with the wax and towels, yes, that's a decent price for one.

Don't bother using the detailer spray for clay lube - just use a spray bottle of water with a little car shampoo etc in it, save the detailing spray for when you need it.

Wash the car really well before using clay, no point wasting it picking up stuff that will come off relatively easily.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

always be closing posted:

Can someone recommend me a great black wax?

I am also looking to buy a bunch of microfiber towels, amazon?
Question on this too. Local store has the turtle wax black box kit on clearance. Is it worth a poo poo?
I'd not pay the full price for it but it might be nice if only to have a quick detail spray that won't leave white poo poo on the black trim.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Which detailer spray have you used which does that? My Meguiar's ones don't.

Sticking with Meguiar's, I say try Ultimate Wax. This is decade-old paint:





Obviously, it doesn't fix orange peel!

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Screw clay, it's all about the Speedy Surface Prep Mitt now.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



I must have run over fresh paint while driving, it's all along the side of my car and up in my wheel wells. I can scratch off the paintusing my fingernail, but it's very slow going. I tried using a claybar and it didn't remove the paint at all. Is there a better / quicker option to get all the paint off? I've used acetone to get wax off of another car before and it didn't mess up the clearcoat, but I've heard enough conflicting info on acetone and clearcoat that I'd like to avoid that unless I'm sure it's ok.

The white paint on the painted parts of my car is bad enough, but I think it's going to be even harder on the plastic on the wheel wells. That may be a better option for some kind of paint remover.

MomJeans420 fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jul 3, 2014

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Tough to tell without knowing what kind of paint it is, but you may want to start with some alcohol. The sooner the better. See if that gets you anywhere before moving up to anything harsher.

VOR LOC
Dec 8, 2007
captured

bull3964 posted:

Screw clay, it's all about the Speedy Surface Prep Mitt now.

Have you used this? :siren: my wifes :siren: hummer needs to be clayed pretty bad but I can't be assed to do it because its so drat big.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


VOR LOC posted:

Have you used this? :siren: my wifes :siren: hummer needs to be clayed pretty bad but I can't be assed to do it because its so drat big.

Yup, have one and it works great. Much larger surface area, easier to grip, and washable. So, no more getting hallway through the car, doing the clay on the ground and s swearing for a half hour.

It was kind of an impulse buy the last time I went to Autoality, but it was totally worth it.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

My car has some slight spiderweb swirls, nothing super strong. Will my car look like poo poo if I dawn it, clay bar, wash again and hand wax it? I don't have a polisher at the moment, saving up for a nice one.

Gonna go pick up a microfiber mitt, buckets, Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax, Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax and a few applicators.

Also any thoughts on car covers for a daily driver if you don't have a usable garage?

Google Butt fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jul 6, 2014

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Google Butt posted:

My car has some slight spiderweb swirls, nothing super strong. Will my car look like poo poo if I dawn it, clay bar, wash again and hand wax it? I don't have a polisher at the moment, saving up for a nice one.
Get an extra pad and buffing towels and put yourself a session of compounding/polishing (with Meguiar's Ultimate stuff, for example) between claying and waxing. Yes, it takes a certain amount of effort, but don't feel you need an electric polisher to get a decent result.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

InitialDave posted:

Get an extra pad and buffing towels and put yourself a session of compounding/polishing (with Meguiar's Ultimate stuff, for example) between claying and waxing. Yes, it takes a certain amount of effort, but don't feel you need an electric polisher to get a decent result.

Any tips for hand buffing?

So I would wash the car, claybar, wash again, hand polish and then wax? Do I need to wash again after hand polishing?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Google Butt posted:

Any tips for hand buffing?

So I would wash the car, claybar, wash again, hand polish and then wax? Do I need to wash again after hand polishing?
No, just take care to make sure you've done the best you can with buffing it to a good shine before waxing.

There isn't really a magic technique to doing stuff by hand, just remember that you're trying to work/abrade the surface, so a light wipe over isn't going to cut (:iamafag:) it. You're not trying to rub through the panel or anything, but do put some effort in. "Yesterday's grease stains on the kitchen worktop" is the best description I can give you for the effort required.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Did some detailing yesterday, Black cars are both the worst and best for detailing. You see everything on the paint but once they're mirror smooth and flawless they look amazing.

This is the paint condition I started with



And this is the final result:







Usually I've been a fan of Pinnacle's products, but this time I used the classic Meguires 105/205 combo with LC Yellow and Green pads and finished off with a hand application of Pinnacle Souveran Carnauba wax. Oh so shiny :allears:

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I'm trying to get my coworker to pay me a few hundred bucks to detail his Legacy wagon. The paint feel like 400 grit sandpaper.

Hopefully I'll have some more black car porn (and some $$$) within the next few weeks.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Thats a really nice job Bajaha. My black car has a bunch of swirls I'm just too lazy to do anything more than a wash myself. Id pay one of you guys if someone was near Buffalo, but otherwise all I have to pick from is people on craigslist that upload pictures of cars that they may or may not have detailed themselves.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

InitialDave posted:

No, just take care to make sure you've done the best you can with buffing it to a good shine before waxing.

There isn't really a magic technique to doing stuff by hand, just remember that you're trying to work/abrade the surface, so a light wipe over isn't going to cut (:iamafag:) it. You're not trying to rub through the panel or anything, but do put some effort in. "Yesterday's grease stains on the kitchen worktop" is the best description I can give you for the effort required.

I ended up running out of time, was only able to wash, clay the whole car, was only able to polish the hood and roof. I did wax the whole thing though! I'm gonna strip the wax this weekend and polish the rest.

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Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people
What's the wisdom these days on wax? Are all the cool kids using synthetic wax or the classic stuff? If so a preferred brand or product? I just picked up a new used car and it's paint is stunning. I don't want to gently caress it up.

EDIT: And smoke smell, how would you get smoke smell out? (mostly leather interior if that makes since)

Sadi fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jul 9, 2014

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