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Cross-Section posted:Not to mention that there's now photos floating around of Ford already out and about (albeit using a prosthetic crutch/peg leg): I never knew how much I wanted Han to have a peg leg until just now. Just let him act in that thing, CGI his leg out instead. All the characters can have various prosthetics. Luke has his hand, Han has his leg, Leia has a red Terminator eye, 3PO has a human arm.
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They absolutely should design a knee brace that has a Star Wars look to it and just write it into the story. Han's leg was crippled at some point in the past 30 years, big deal.
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Jul 1, 2014 16:21
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Chewbacca was mortally wounded so Han shot 3P0 and now Chewie's half wookie, half golden machine
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Jul 1, 2014 17:23
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In this continuity the planet missed Chewie and hit Han's leg, he got better because he's Han fuckin' Solo
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Jul 1, 2014 17:30
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Rasczak posted:In this continuity the planet missed Chewie and hit Han's leg, he got better because he's Han fuckin' Solo Moon. It was a moon. Get your made up facts straight.
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Jul 1, 2014 17:46
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tribbledirigible posted:Moon. It was a moon. Get your made up facts straight. That's no moon
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Cross-Section posted:Not to mention that there's now photos floating around of Ford already out and about (albeit using a prosthetic crutch/peg leg): He's more machine now than man.
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Jul 1, 2014 18:27
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Han refuses the mechanical leg ala Luke's hand because he doesn't trust machines. He welds a metal wrench to the bone. Or a blaster like in Planet Terror.
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Jul 1, 2014 18:52
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Maybe Han was tired of playing to lose in Holo-Chess and thought after all this time Chewie had learned to be less of a sore loser who tears his opponent's limbs off.
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Bongo Bill posted:Luke did the opposite of what all the Jedi in the Order would have done, but he still called himself a Jedi. The prequels were about how Anakin became the mortal enemy of the Order, and Luke also called him a Jedi. Luke calls Anakin a Jedi, and it inspires Anakin to revert back to being the man he was before he became a mortal enemy of the Order, at which point he destroys the Jedi's arch foe and fulfills an ancient Jedi prophecy. Which is why at the very end (in the most recent Lucas cut) his ghost image reverts back to his former, younger self and is seen chilling with two old guard Jedi in Force Heaven. Luke's statement is an affirmation of his belief in the good man that still resides inside Vader, not an endorsement of every action Anakin took in opposition to the Jedi. I doubt Luke is endorsing the slaughter of children, for instance. I'd be disappointed if Luke was killed off in the new movies, because at this point it's a cliche, and given that he's presented as having consummated Jedi philosophy in Episode VI, it would be a weird thematic statement. He's already renounced hate and violence. There's no reason he shouldn't be allowed to die peacefully in his sleep at an advanced age. That's the problem with sequels like this though. It doesn't seem like there's much else to say that hasn't already been said. Anyway, are we even still allowed to argue about the old movies in this thread? I'd be glad to, personally, but my past posts on that topic apparently weren't received very well and led to the thread being temporarily shut down.
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I came across this excerpt from a book written in 1983, about the tone of each of trilogies as Lucas had originally planned. While I know Lucas isn't in charge of the tone of the sequel trilogy anymore, it's at least interesting to see how, even in 1981, he had already planned on the prequel trilogy to be "Machiavellian and melodramatic, like a costume drama." So, with a grain of salt, it is possible we'll be getting a far more philosophical third installment of the trilogies. I personally think that sounds really intriguing, however with Abrams directing, I expect it will be even more action packed than the others (though it could still be thought-provoking at the same time). Rian Johnson could definitely take it in that direction (as an aside: Rian Johnson is the most exciting news ever, he was the director I was hoping for like 2 years ago or whenever they announced the sequel trilogy).Worrell, Icons: Intimate Portraits, 1983 posted:In 1980 Lucas revealed to Time magazine that the sequel trilogy would revolve around “the rebuilding of the Republic,” and in 1983 stated to that magazine that thematically it would be about “the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong,” implying perhaps a more introspective tone, which is consistent with Lucas’ implications that the three sets of films would all be stylistically different. The first trilogy is to be more Machiavellian and melodramatic, like a costume drama, as Lucas revealed in 1981, while the second is more action-packed and light-hearted, perhaps leaving the third to be more philosophical, addressing issues of ethical responsibility and moral ambiguity.
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Benedick Cuckold posted:He's already renounced hate and violence. There's no reason he shouldn't be allowed to die peacefully in his sleep at an advanced age. That's the problem with sequels like this though. It doesn't seem like there's much else to say that hasn't already been said. There's not much more to say about Luke, sure, I'd agree. I'm sure they could find something to say with Star Wars, though. My major concern for the sequels is that they will say nothing, though, not realizing the rest of the Saga was saying so much.
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You just have to give him a new conflict. Sure, he took care of the family drama and saved the galaxy, but someone's going to be in peril somewhere otherwise this will be a boring three movies. I'm kinda guessing Luke's going to be Obi Wan here though, a mentor passing the torch. It's like poetry...
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hhhat posted:You just have to give him a new conflict. Sure, he took care of the family drama and saved the galaxy, but someone's going to be in peril somewhere otherwise this will be a boring three movies. Well the argument is that Luke figured out conflict. Not just that one conflict. He figured out how to be in the galaxy. He surpassed his masters. He's enlightened. No new conflict should matter to that. However, trying to pass that on could be problematic. The role of the living buddha. How to help others understand that.
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Lunatic Pathos posted:Well the argument is that Luke figured out conflict. Not just that one conflict. He figured out how to be in the galaxy. He surpassed his masters. He's enlightened. No new conflict should matter to that. However, trying to pass that on could be problematic. While he was going Siddhartha his buddies blew up a space station... he might take the role of Yoda but they'll still be like 'dude you can do mind control and choke people over the radio stop being a jerk and help' That in itself could be an interesting storyline. Although I'm not imagining him as the reluctant retiree. Who knows. Gonna be fun to find out.
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Lobok posted:Maybe Han was tired of playing to lose in Holo-Chess and thought after all this time Chewie had learned to be less of a sore loser who tears his opponent's limbs off. Alternatively, maybe Han literally broke his foot off in Chewie's rear end for being such a sore loser
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Benedick Cuckold posted:Luke calls Anakin a Jedi, and it inspires Anakin to revert back to being the man he was before he became a mortal enemy of the Order, at which point he destroys the Jedi's arch foe and fulfills an ancient Jedi prophecy. Which is why at the very end (in the most recent Lucas cut) his ghost image reverts back to his former, younger self and is seen chilling with two old guard Jedi in Force Heaven. Luke's statement is an affirmation of his belief in the good man that still resides inside Vader, not an endorsement of every action Anakin took in opposition to the Jedi. I doubt Luke is endorsing the slaughter of children, for instance. Anakin frequently disagreed with the Order even before he decided to start killing them. He turned against the Jedi Order because he could see that they would "stand in the way of peace" (a line from Clone Wars), and that decision was how he was manipulated into doing the Emperor's bidding. The most iconic part of Darth Vader's costume is his mask, which prevents him from seeing anything "with [his] own eyes" - once Palpatine declares him Darth Vader, he sees only what his master wants him to see. (In The Empire Strikes Back, when he's acting on his own to try to unite with Luke, he takes his helmet off when he's meditating.) Anakin came to the conclusion that the Jedi were evil all on his own, and he wasn't wrong. Palpatine's lesson only inspired him to destroy his enemy utterly, children and all, in contradistinction to Luke's example to fight by rejecting it and risking everything else to save those who've fallen under its influence. The films don't show us much of Anakin's heroic side. They often depict him as uncommunicative, temperamental, unforgiving, and arrogant, all of which is true, but when they show him being selfless, idealistic, and kind, it's so stiff and unnatural that it comes across as insincere or creepy. Even if this did serve some thematic purpose, it's very much to the prequels' detriment, so I'm drawing a lot on Clone Wars with this. But that's okay because Clone Wars is good.
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Cross-Section posted:Not to mention that there's now photos floating around of Ford already out and about (albeit using a prosthetic crutch/peg leg): In Darkman there was a henchman with a prosthetic leg that was a machine gun. Han Solo should totally have something like that.
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Grendels Dad posted:In Darkman there was a henchman with a prosthetic leg that was a machine gun. Han Solo should totally have something like that. Do blasters autofire?
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So apparently the Daily Mail reckons Carrie Fisher's daughter Billy Lourd has been cast to play a young version of Leia in a flashback. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...pisode-VII.html Or an old secret hologram message from young Leia or something, hidden deep in Artoo's electronic bowels, and only just discovered. Who knows.
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Lunatic Pathos posted:Well the argument is that Luke figured out conflict. Not just that one conflict. He figured out how to be in the galaxy. He surpassed his masters. He's enlightened. No new conflict should matter to that. However, trying to pass that on could be problematic. Which in Star Wars terms, I see as one of his students/family falling to the dark side and the struggle to a) accept that someone so close to him is in this state and b) work to help them out of it. To me, it parallels the kinds of conflicts we see in our society (e.g.,a friend or family member becoming a drug addict or criminal).
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:So apparently the Daily Mail reckons Carrie Fisher's daughter Billy Lourd has been cast to play a young version of Leia in a flashback. Rumors also say it might be Leia's daughter.
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feedmyleg posted:Rumors also say it might be Leia's daughter. Let's hope so because I see next to zero similarity.
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Outside of her mouth being bigger she could easily pass, especially if it's in the context of a blurry hologram recording.
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They can just CGI a smaller mouth.
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Vintersorg posted:They can just CGI a smaller mouth. CGI a larger mouth on Leia in the OT and new movies.
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Trump posted:CGI a larger mouth on Leia in the OT and new movies. Why stop there? Just replace Leia with the daughter in all her scenes.
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Vulpes posted:Why stop there? Just replace Leia with the daughter in all her scenes. Including the scene at the end of RotS!
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Trump posted:CGI a larger mouth on Leia in the OT and new movies. Just replace Leia with the Mouth of Sauron.
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A local theater is going to be showing a DCP of Star Wars: A New Hope and claims that it's the original version: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/75th-anniversary-opening-night-star-wars-episode-iv-1977-tickets-12157917659 This is what they're saying about it on social media:  Sounds like b.s. to me but it's already sold out so I won't be able to find out for myself.
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Bongo Bill posted:Anakin frequently disagreed with the Order even before he decided to start killing them. He turned against the Jedi Order because he could see that they would "stand in the way of peace" (a line from Clone Wars), and that decision was how he was manipulated into doing the Emperor's bidding. The most iconic part of Darth Vader's costume is his mask, which prevents him from seeing anything "with [his] own eyes" - once Palpatine declares him Darth Vader, he sees only what his master wants him to see. (In The Empire Strikes Back, when he's acting on his own to try to unite with Luke, he takes his helmet off when he's meditating.) Yeah, the prequels answer the question, "how could someone and some age so noble fall from grace?" with, "they were not so noble." It's like Shakespeare.  But seriously, it is like Julius Caesar, where the very nature of the Republic leads its "noblest" citizens to destroy the Republic. I don't think you give Palpatine enough credit. Anakin distrusts the Jedi, but he doesn't think they're evil until he sees one armed and standing over the pitiable form of the only person who treated him with respect. Palpatine is not as helpless as he feigns and shows no lingering effects from the ordeal aside from his change in appearance, which is as symbolic as it is physical. PeterWeller fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Just replace Leia with the Mouth of Sauron. Replace everyone with Boba Fett
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DNS posted:A local theater is going to be showing a DCP of Star Wars: A New Hope and claims that it's the original version: Yeah I knew it had to be bullshit: http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/georgias-oldest-theater-gets-oldest-star-wars-movie-anniversary-screening/ "Disney officials confirmed that the digital print being provided the Plaza will be based on the Special Edition version which got a wide release in 1997."
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kiimo posted:
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