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TraderStav posted:Seems like a more meaningful metric would be average viewing per event or day of event. It's equivalent but has fewer BIG NUMBERS
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Stage 6 Arras / Reims 195km     EN - Summary - Stage 6 (Arras > Reims) EN - The Flamme rouge - The last kilometre - Stage 6 Full results Stage 5 Ypres > Arenberg Porte du Hainaut EN - On-board camera - Teams CANNONDALE and TREK FACTORY RACING Etape n°5: Ypres / Arenberg Porte du Hainaut FR 95min Highligh Etape n°5: Ypres / Arenberg FR 13min Boom's strava for yesterday stage Cobblestone chaos: The Tour peloton reacts to stage 5 crashes EN - On-board camera - Stage 4 (Le Touquet-Paris-Plage > Lille Métropole Stage 7 Épernay / Nancy 234km  Mountain passes & hills Km 217.5 - Côte de Maron 3.2 km at 5% - category 4 Km 229.0 - Côte de Boufflers 1.3 km at 7.9% - category 4   Intermediate sprint & Finish   Weather  Wind = 15km/h Stage 7 Winner odds  Time schedule Start : 11h55 Finish : 17h07 (45km/h) 17h22 (43km/h) 17h38 (41km/h) The new boss of le tour 
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Jul 10, 2014 19:04
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's equivalent but has fewer BIG NUMBERS To be fair it depend on the coverage and number of hours available on tv which vary greatly by country, 622 hours in Belgium, 431 hours in France, 363 in UK per year on national channel (non eurosport), in the US, it's probably less than 100hours so it may paint a grimmer picture than the situation really is. Not to mention the time zone problems + graph is World tour (so no ToC) etc. I think the record for audience in the US for tour de France is 300k (watching live) during Armstrong's era, Germany went for 3.5millions (Ulrich era) to 1.2millions last year on average per stage.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:07
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OP any chance you could embed the full stage profile with these previews?
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Jul 10, 2014 19:13
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Done,I will try post each profile before the stage with the weather added, the TDF site usually have them in the morning.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:29
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What is that female journalist looking at?
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Jul 10, 2014 20:07
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Xabi posted:What is that female journalist looking at? Quadzilla
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Jul 10, 2014 20:13
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Vino is a good looking man imo.
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Jul 10, 2014 21:02
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African AIDS cum posted:Quadzilla If any of you guys are gonna date/bang cyclists go for sprinters or rouleurs, maybe even TTers, they still have normal body proportions.
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Pocket posted:If any of you guys are gonna date/bang cyclists go for sprinters or rouleurs, maybe even TTers, they still have normal body proportions. ref Withnail posted:In case you didn't know professional cyclist Taylor Wiles is -not- riding in the
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Turns out Im like 1 of about 6 Australians who watch cycling according to that graph. I mean 35 times more interest in Canada than Aus? Really? Yes, Im commenting on statistics and not lady cyclists... what of it  edit: Laura Meseguer on the other hand....
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Dr.Bikini BSc. CEO posted:Turns out Im like 1 of about 6 Australians who watch cycling according to that graph. I mean 35 times more interest in Canada than Aus? Really? My family must be the other 5
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Graph is cumulative, if you watch every single hour of pro cycling in your country and there are 100 hours, you count for 100 peoples but yeah it's not super accurate, still give an idea of popularity.Dr.Bikini BSc. CEO posted:edit: Laura Meseguer on the other hand.... She is the journalist looking at Greipel's quad in the pic above When it come to lady cyclists, everybody knows the best are redheads or as they said in France : rousses     Marion Rousse : Pro cyclist rider in Lotto Belisol,TV Consultant for Eurosport, ambassador Mavicshe, she is the girlfriend of Tony Gallopin.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:16
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serious gaylord posted:To be fair, the tv coverage is just garbage in the states its like its done by amateurs. I really appreciate the quaintness, compared to how it's covered at home, in France. It's sweet.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:19
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Actually, the tv coverage is probably one of the main reasons cycling is still as small as it is. Compared to almost any other televised sport its in the dark ages.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:26
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It always seems like they're really bad at knowing where the hell anyone is at any given time, and slow to catch up to events that happen away from what's currently on screen.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:30
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peanut- posted:I always seems like they're really bad at knowing where the hell anyone is at any given time, and slow to catch up to events that happen away from what's currently on screen. They dont have gps trackers on the riders do they? I often hear that as the main complaint from commentators. They dont have accurate timing data so they cant see if gaps are increasing/decreasing, and indeed they often don't have a clue where people actually are. They often get the breakaway riders wrong because the camera doesnt catch their number or whatever.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:32
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serious gaylord posted:They dont have gps trackers on the riders do they? I often hear that as the main complaint from commentators. They dont have accurate timing data so they cant see if gaps are increasing/decreasing, and indeed they often don't have a clue where people actually are. They often get the breakaway riders wrong because the camera doesnt catch their number or whatever. They have GPS trackers on the tv bikes which is how they get the time gaps iirc. I'm sure it'd be feasible to stick timing matts down over the course occasionally just to confirm exactly who's in which group if GPS isn't possible and some live telemetry of speed and power would be loving awesome.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:36
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:They have GPS trackers on the tv bikes which is how they get the time gaps iirc. I'm sure it'd be feasible to stick timing matts down over the course occasionally just to confirm exactly who's in which group if GPS isn't possible and some live telemetry of speed and power would be loving awesome. They've started putting gradients on screen now which is nice too. However what I'd really like to see is an F1 style 'all your data goes to us and then we broadcast it' type of deal, so you'd be able to get comparisons of cadence, power etc between riders and in return, the teams would get a bigger slice of the tv revenue and hopefully reduce their dependency on sponsors a little. But we all know teams wouldn't want that publicly available.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:49
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serious gaylord posted:Actually, the tv coverage is probably one of the main reasons cycling is still as small as it is. Compared to almost any other televised sport its in the dark ages. I still love it. It makes me think that this must be what sports coverage was like in the earliest days of tv, when announcers created a radio style running narrative and the images were flavor
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Jul 11, 2014 10:59
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Edit: ^^^ commentary in every sport is like this now.serious gaylord posted:Actually, the tv coverage is probably one of the main reasons cycling is still as small as it is. Compared to almost any other televised sport its in the dark ages. I'm not entirely sure how the hell you'd improve it. By it's very nature, the things that are done to cover fixed-location events can't be done in cycling. I mean, purely from a broadcast engineering point of view, we're pretty much at the pinnacle of what is doable right now. You get crisp HD pictures every day from vehicles in motion over a distance of 100-150 miles thanks to aircraft relays and satellite feeds. You could have some more cameras over mobile data connections but they'd look like poo poo on your TV. You could put data on all of the bikes or riders I guess which would give you some nice analytics. What specifically are you looking for in a cycling broadcast that we don't have now?
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Jul 11, 2014 11:15
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One thing that is often underestimated is that the majority of people watching GT are not bike enthusiasts, the primary reason for watching the tour is scenery (61% scenery, 44% for mountain stage, 32% only for the competition for international audience, it's 23,16,12% for France). Even for those along the road one of the main motivation is the caravan. ( Inrng : Vive L’Indifférence )
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Jul 11, 2014 11:26
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I was hoping this would be the year we'd see drones, though that would be a pretty amazing feat. They're pretty spectacular in CX coverage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKq0oFfA_Mc
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thehustler posted:Edit: ^^^ commentary in every sport is like this now. Just more information. The picture quality is not the issue, its not knowing where riders are, what their timing gaps are etc. I was watching Stage 5 and it was clear Nibali was putting time in to Contador but I had to wait 10-15 minutes for a time gap to come up on screen. You also had commentators guessing about who was in what group because there wasnt a camera there. They had no idea Porte and Thomas had jumped until they were almost out of shot of the camera focussing on the favourites. Basically more information is better.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:33
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Yeah, giving the commentators the ability to relay more information than just describing what's happening on the screen would be good.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:35
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If you have gps on the camera bikes computing gap times is primary school math.
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peanut- posted:Yeah, giving the commentators the ability to relay more information than just describing what's happening on the screen would be good. That would be awesome. They just need a second screen with all of the timing/position information on, like in F1 when you get this:  Obviously formatted and presented in a way that would be relevant to cycling, with all the group information in. If every rider wore a transponder of some kind that reported certain data, it could be received at the stage finish and presented to the media. You could also stream it live on the net as the F1 website does.
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evil_bunnY posted:If you have gps on the camera bikes computing gap times is primary school math. Isn't this how it's done already? Edit: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2012/06/how-time-gaps-are-calculated/
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Jul 11, 2014 11:54
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thehustler posted:Isn't this how it's done already? The issue is there's only so many bikes and on narrow roads they can't get through to each group
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 Elmiger, Huzarski, Pichot, Delaplace, Edet et Busche with a 3'25" lead, best ranked at GC is Elmiger at 9'25" from Nibali.  According to le tour medical report, Delaplace is on anti inflammatoire, i e Corticosteroid Cannondale on the front of the peloton but the rest doesn't seem interest to chase. Could be the first breakaway win of the tour. Live start at 2:15pm CET (in 75min)
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evil_bunnY posted:If you have gps on the camera bikes computing gap times is primary school math. No problem when you have Peloton/Breakaway. The issue comes from when people disintegrate on climbs and you have riders all over the shop. Theres only so many cameras and I'd like to know that Talansky is 24 seconds behind Contador and losing more every minute.# At the moment, you might not even know Talansky isnt in the main group unless you're lucky enough for a camera bike to spot him dropping.
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Mr.Nice posted:
It's almost certainly something like ibuprofen which is a non-steroidal anti inflammatory drug rather then a corticosteroid
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Any more info on Hernandez. They seemed quite concerned with his head injury yesterday.
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serious gaylord posted:Any more info on Hernandez. They seemed quite concerned with his head injury yesterday. Latest news : Jesus Hernandez is staying with team for two days as they're not confident he can take the plane now. He is being monitored by team doc #tdf https://twitter.com/julienpretotRTR/status/487554251338825728 Loving Africa Chaps posted:It's almost certainly something like ibuprofen which is a non-steroidal anti inflammatory drug rather then a corticosteroid It was for a Knee injury so I assumed wrongly it was something stronger, still surprised to see him in the break today.  Stef Clement is also out of the race, crashed a few minutes ago.
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Race radio just said hes being taken to hospital. The tour just cant ride bikes this year.
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The hits keep coming for WiggoBrailsford posted:It's just unfortunate for Chris, he's worked ever so hard to be in good shape and really believed he could win this race. Brailsford posted:It (the Vuelta) is not confirmed yet (for Wiggins) http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/55388/froome-eyes-vuelta-and-wiggins-too
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Jul 11, 2014 12:46
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Am I crazy, or did they not pick up coverage until the second half of the stage? Watching the British EuroSport stream, if it makes a difference.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Am I crazy, or did they not pick up coverage until the second half of the stage? Watching the British EuroSport stream, if it makes a difference. There's only so many château's and windmills you can talk about when there's not much happening on the road, especially on flat stages.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Am I crazy, or did they not pick up coverage until the second half of the stage? Watching the British EuroSport stream, if it makes a difference. If I'm not mistaken the feed always starts at 14:15 CET. For stage 4 this meant you got to see practically the complete stage, for long stages like today it means you miss a lot of kms, but nothing much happens there anyway.
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