[Mafia] Thor: Ragnarok

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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Hal Incandenza posted:

Man that is confusing.

Out of curiosity why are you thinking MMM-Grandi are both town/both scum? Why not one of each?

It's a hunch. Certainly if Grandi is scum his game makes no sense if MMM is Town - he's saying that either we lynch him to confirm a Townie or lynch a single Townie to confirm him as scum. If we flipped him as Town, we'd have to consider the possibility that he's right, but we have no evidence and at least three people have been acting scummier than MMM.

Opop also likes to play with expectations, so I wouldn't put it past him to make an unconfirmed masonry of Townies.

# ? Jul 10, 2014 23:32

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Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Juanito posted:

Hal, you mentioned you thought Jam was legit. I don't get that vibe from reading his posts, especially

Heh, that doesn't sound sincere at all.

Yeah I don't know now. At first his "I'm sorta lost" think felt real to me but looking back now I don't know why I thought that. Also now knowing Ixt was scum this jumps out at me a bit more:

Jamuraan posted:

I agree with the first half, but not necessarily the second. Day 1 really hosed things up and now it feels like Day 2 is going to be D1 minus a townie.

After I said we should just turbo Ixt to start D2 and get back on track. (the half he didn't agree with was turboing Ixt, for reference)

Then pretty much everything else was just "oh no everyone sorry I have no ideas", and a little too much of that.

So him or TT, in retrospect they are both worse than ST. But he's bad too. And so is Grandi.

In fact pretty much everyone except maybe Jedit has been pretty bad.

# ? Jul 10, 2014 23:42

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

I own up to my badness and apologize for it. Don't lynch me.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 00:38

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

I think I'm going to shoot Jam, any objections?

# ? Jul 11, 2014 00:44

Jump King: Aug 10, 2011

Juanito posted:

I hesitate to shoot Grandi also because of this.

MMM, of those four mentioned by Jedit, who would you rather I shoot?

# ? Jul 11, 2014 02:43

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

Ugh right now I want to shoot myself

# ? Jul 11, 2014 02:58

Jamuraan: Oct 10, 2005; Jamuraan, J.D. in Critical Reasoning and Logic
Ask me about how good I am at party games! Please god ask me about how good I am at party games!

Don't shoot me you loving idiot.
I'm tired of you morons turboing me or vig killing me.
I'll probably get night killed in the next night or two anyway, find a better target.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 07:57

Jamuraan: Oct 10, 2005; Jamuraan, J.D. in Critical Reasoning and Logic
Ask me about how good I am at party games! Please god ask me about how good I am at party games!

Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah I don't know now. At first his "I'm sorta lost" think felt real to me but looking back now I don't know why I thought that. Also now knowing Ixt was scum this jumps out at me a bit more:

After I said we should just turbo Ixt to start D2 and get back on track. (the half he didn't agree with was turboing Ixt, for reference)

Then pretty much everything else was just "oh no everyone sorry I have no ideas", and a little too much of that.

So him or TT, in retrospect they are both worse than ST. But he's bad too. And so is Grandi.

In fact pretty much everyone except maybe Jedit has been pretty bad.

Yeah I thought I was gonna be more involved in this game but then the first two days were so awful that I kind of got apathetic. And my brain is absolutely melted right now from a half dozen things IRL and I can't focus long enough to read this game.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 08:00

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Jamuraan posted:

Yeah I thought I was gonna be more involved in this game but then the first two days were so awful that I kind of got apathetic. And my brain is absolutely melted right now from a half dozen things IRL and I can't focus long enough to read this game.

This is contrary to what you just said. You don't want to be shot but you are unlikely to be able to focus or participate in the game. So even if you are town you are of limited value.

Shoot Jammy.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 15:36

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

##kill Jam

if he's scum, awesome

# ? Jul 11, 2014 15:44

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

Juanito posted:

##kill Jam

if he's scum, awesome

It should have been meeeeee.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 15:54

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Juanito posted:

I think I'm going to shoot Jam, any objections?

My only objection to that is TT's claim to be a Lynchbomb. If we think TT is also a strong suspect then we should shoot him instead, to eliminate any risk if his claim is true.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 16:26

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Mafia edit: welp, let's hope this works.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 16:27

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

I'll be happy to hammer TT

# ? Jul 11, 2014 16:27

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Juanito posted:

I'll be happy to hammer TT

I think you've missed the point. After Jamuraan flips there'll be seven players left. If TT is a Lynchbomb, then lynching him will drop us to five going into night. Unless there's only one scum alive at that point, that's game over. If you'd shot TT instead, then we'd go into night with six players left and be reasonably sure of getting another shot tomorrow. Summary: we now have one less mistake to work with.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 17:21

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

Jedit posted:

I think you've missed the point. After Jamuraan flips there'll be seven players left. If TT is a Lynchbomb, then lynching him will drop us to five going into night. Unless there's only one scum alive at that point, that's game over. If you'd shot TT instead, then we'd go into night with six players left and be reasonably sure of getting another shot tomorrow. Summary: we now have one less mistake to work with.

Good, the sooner this game is put out of its misery the better. The outage mostly killed it. It's D4, and we're only on page 12. Hasn't been even a full page of posts for D4 yet.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 17:23

Jump King: Aug 10, 2011

I've got a pretty strong town read on any player with a deathwish

# ? Jul 11, 2014 17:29

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Jam, Valkyrie, Town Aligned Bodyguard, was killed D3

Can't update votefinder until I get home

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:22

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:28

Jamuraan: Oct 10, 2005; Jamuraan, J.D. in Critical Reasoning and Logic
Ask me about how good I am at party games! Please god ask me about how good I am at party games!

Go scum!

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:37

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bodyguard is the Doc variant that redirects the kill to himself, right? So this wouldn't explain why we only had one kill on Night 2, not that it matters now.

So, we just going for TT or does someone else have a plan?

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:41

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

Bodyguard would die if they protected the person who got targeted.

Let's go for TT, and I'll hammer.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:43

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

I plan to half pay attention to the thread and then vote the vote leader at the end of the day.
Same plan I've followed for the rest of the game.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:43

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Juanito posted:

Bodyguard would die if they protected the person who got targeted.

Let's go for TT, and I'll hammer.

I can't think of a better plan.

##vote Tremendous Taste

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:44

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

Only takes 4 to kill, so 2 more votes and I'll hammer TT.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:45

Jump King: Aug 10, 2011

Can Juan or Jedit tell me why TT is a better target than ST or Grandi?

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:51

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

Because TT might be a lynchbomb which means that 2 will die for the price of one and this game is more likely to be over.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 18:53

Jump King: Aug 10, 2011

Juanito posted:

Because TT might be a lynchbomb which means that 2 will die for the price of one and this game is more likely to be over.

A fair point. I'm curious about Jedit though.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 19:10

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Juanito posted:

Because TT might be a lynchbomb which means that 2 will die for the price of one and this game is more likely to be over.

Awwww I don't know why we don't go for Grandi he's begging for it but ##vote TT

# ? Jul 11, 2014 20:58

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

I can't exactly say I don't sympathise with Juanito's point of view, as I was wondering if we shouldn't abandon the game last week. However, I do think TT is the best pick for scum because of that Lynchbomb claim, which came right after him trying to drag the game back into joke phase two hours before deadline on Day 1. I also think his interaction with ST at that time looks forced, with ST pushing TT in a very non-committal way and TT bantering back.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 21:10

Grandicap: Feb 8, 2006

My scum picks for this game are Hal and either MMM or Jedit. WIth that being said, ##vote TT

# ? Jul 11, 2014 21:11

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

let me hammer myself?

# ? Jul 11, 2014 21:15

Juanito: Jan 20, 2004; I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?; Hell Gem

##vote TT

# ? Jul 11, 2014 21:16

cheese sandwich: Feb 9, 2009

Jedit posted:

I also think his interaction with ST at that time looks forced, with ST pushing TT in a very non-committal way and TT bantering back.

Why does this make him scum over me I do not understand

You used a thing you said mostly about me as a point against him and I am fairly sure you have seem me scum at least enough to know that I am a very bussy scum

I mostly point this out because regardless of the tt flip it feels like it is an early segway into a me chain lynch and it is sketching me a bit

# ? Jul 11, 2014 21:17

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

##vote TT

:redhammer:

# ? Jul 11, 2014 23:11

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Tremendous Taste posted:

##vote TT

You were already dead after the fourth vote. Jamuraan is listed as alive until Opop gets home.

# ? Jul 11, 2014 23:13

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Jedit posted:

You were already dead after the fourth vote. Jamuraan is listed as alive until Opop gets home.

I claimed lynchbomb let me hammer myselaf aaarhghghag

# ? Jul 11, 2014 23:31

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

Tremendous Taste, Destroyer, Town Aligned Lynchbomb was killed D4 and took

Juanito, Thor, Town Aligned 1-Shot Vig

With him

It is now N4

# ? Jul 12, 2014 00:50

Jump King: Aug 10, 2011

welp

# ? Jul 12, 2014 05:40

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 00:54

Opopanax: Aug 8, 2007; I HEX YE!!!

MMM, Volstagg the Voluminous, Town Aligned Mason, was killed N4

Grandicap, Hogun the Grim, Town Aligned Mason
and
Hal Incandenza, Gor the God Butcher, Self Aligned Unblockable SK
Have been endgamed

Slightly Toasted, Loki, Scum Aligned Illusionist (alt night disguiser/alt night hider)
And
Jedit, Malekith, Scum Aligned Interceptor
Have own for the scum team

# ? Jul 12, 2014 22:42

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