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orange juche posted:Doesn't plutonium have the capability to spontaneously ignite for pretty much no reason at all? No. You see, there's a sizable difference between nuclear physics/chemistry and 'loving magic'
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orange juche posted:Doesn't plutonium have the capability to spontaneously ignite for pretty much no reason at all? If by "ignite" you mean release thermal energy as a byproduct of nuclear decay, then yes some isotopes can. For instance the cores used in RTGs for unmanned space probes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium#Power_and_heat_source Plutonium sources like these are still powering the Voyager probes decades later You might be thinking of criticality incidents- sudden, spontaneous release of energy when two subcritical pieces of fissile material are physically joined to create a critical mass. No big boom, just a shitload of ionizing radiation. It'll look really cool but you'll be dead inside of a month from viewing it directly at close range. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticality_incident
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orange juche posted:Doesn't plutonium have the capability to spontaneously ignite for pretty much no reason at all? Spontaneous fission can occur with a reasonable probability within meaningfully observable timescales only in Pu-240; Pu-239 is about 42,000 times less likely to decay by spontaneous fission than Pu-240 in a given length of time (for comparison, U-238 is about 68,000 times less apt to decay by spontaneous fission than Pu-240). Even then, spontaneous fission doesn't work like the spontaneous combustion of rags soaked with linseed oil - you'll get damage to the crystal structure, not a chain reaction ending in conflagration. Probably.
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Booblord Zagats posted:No. You see, there's a sizable difference between nuclear physics/chemistry and 'loving magic' I got it mixed up, bulk plutonium only ignites when heated. Powdered plutonium, and Pu2O3 ignite at ambient temps. Also, no I do not mean their ability to produce heat, powdered plutonium and Pu2O3 will literally burn. http://web.archive.org/web/20070428220410/http://www.hss.energy.gov/NuclearSafety/techstds/standard/hdbk1081/hbk1081d.html#ZZ281 orange juche fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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orange juche posted:I got it mixed up, bulk plutonium only ignites when heated. Powdered plutonium, and Pu2O3 ignite at ambient temps. I see what you meant now. Like AB said, they can fuse and dump radiation like a fat girl after prom, but really, modern safety protocols can make those dangerous situations pretty tame.
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orange juche posted:I got it mixed up, bulk plutonium only ignites when heated. Powdered plutonium, and Pu2O3 ignite at ambient temps. I'm not a chemistry or nuclear science major but it doesn't seem like the various plutonium oxides are all that amazingly harmful, except for the alpha radiation. Apparently PuO2 is what fuels the modern RTG engines used by NASA.
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Bolow posted:The SMAW has had thermobaric warheads for awhile now as well Also, the M202 did the rocket flamethrower job for a while, when it wasn't being used in Eighties action movies.
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I basically never have strong political opinions on anything, even supposedly clear-cut issues like the systematic murder of unborn children or civil rights for gays, but somehow I am 100% on the Israeli government's side here. The few people in that thread actually making arguments instead of dogpiling the IDF dude are pretending like Hamas was a peaceful organization not at all bent on annihilating the Jews until like 5 days ago when an Israeli bomb killed a kid AND THAT CROSSED THE LINE. e: Even Hamas says that they launched hundreds of missiles at civilian targets (including a nuclear power plant) this week to avenge six militants who died when a literal terrorist tunnel collapsed. DnD Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Hamas missiles are bullshit firecrackers but at least it gets us nice dystopian videos from weddings and poo poo of the missile shields intercepting them
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Hamas missiles are bullshit firecrackers but at least it gets us nice dystopian videos from weddings and poo poo of the missile shields intercepting them Pictured: a bullshit firecracker Obviously the rinkydink Qassams are glorified fireworks but they'll still ruin your day if one hits your house. However, there's also a large amount of 122mm actual military rocketry, with increasing use of 300mm stuff, which is a big step up in range and firepower.
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just because someone shot but missed doesn't mean you don't gently caress them up
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Reverand maynard posted:just because someone shot but missed doesn't mean you don't gently caress them up yeah those videos gave me ptsd
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Meanwhile, in Best Korea... http://www.rodong.rep.kp/en/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2014-07-02-0010&chAction=T
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He has an entire waitstaff following him around?
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Mad Dragon posted:He has an entire waitstaff following him around? The only fat guys in NK who aren't Best Leader, his family, and anyone that he's sticking his stubby penis into are military high command.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Meanwhile, in Best Korea... I wonder how many of those commanders are photoshopped in?
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at the date posted:I basically never have strong political opinions on anything, even supposedly clear-cut issues like the systematic murder of unborn children or civil rights for gays, but somehow I am 100% on the Israeli government's side here. The few people in that thread actually making arguments instead of dogpiling the IDF dude are pretending like Hamas was a peaceful organization not at all bent on annihilating the Jews until like 5 days ago when an Israeli bomb killed a kid AND THAT CROSSED THE LINE. Israel is looking for an ultimate answer, a final solution, if you will, to the Arab question
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Lazy Reservist posted:Israel is looking for an ultimate answer, a final solution, if you will, to the Arab question Hopefully they find one. The worst part about Munich was when Eric Bana had a heart to heart with the PLO dude instead of just brutally murdering him.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Meanwhile, in Best Korea...
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 08:36 |
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he's actually holding his senior officers to physical standards? mad respect, baby chonger.
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Can't we just admit that both Israel and Palestine are terrible loving places and leave them to perpetually kill eachother in peace?
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Helldump Immunity. posted:he's actually holding his senior officers to physical standards? mad respect, baby chonger. i want to see a naked, greased-up General Welsh try to suplex Admiral Greenert in that goofy courtyard the Pentagon has. perhaps also triathlon competitions between O-9s before you get to take over an O-10 slot.
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psydude posted:Can't we just admit that both Israel and Palestine are terrible loving places and leave them to perpetually kill eachother in peace? We should just give them a one year free card from external involvement to settle the issue, and promise to pretend that we didn't see whatever happened during that time. May the best Semites win. Courthouse fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Courthouse posted:We should just give them a one year free card from external involvement to settle the issue, and promise to pretend that we didn't see what happened during that time. May the best Semites win. You need to give palestinians 3 billion dollars too to even it up. Think of the rad rockets they'd come up if they had that. EDIT: the interesting thing about iron dome is that the palestinians could put serious financial hurt on isreal by having $100 rockets get shot down by $50k intercepts Loving Africa Chaps fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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I wonder what would happen to Mexico if they took up the habit of lobbing missiles at the US.
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Reverand maynard posted:I wonder what would happen to Mexico if they took up the habit of lobbing missiles at the US. We'd bring in more laborers to fix the damage.
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Reverand maynard posted:I wonder what would happen to Mexico if they took up the habit of lobbing missiles at the US. Mexico would be a crater. Israel shows way more restraint than any world power would given a similar situation. Look at Chechnya and how China handles EVERYTHING
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Booblord Zagats posted:Mexico would be a crater. Israel shows way more restraint than any world power would given a similar situation. Look at Chechnya and how China handles EVERYTHING I dunno mate they bomb the poo poo out of gaza on the regs
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:I dunno mate they bomb the poo poo out of gaza on the regs Yeah, but the fact Gaza doesn't have cartloads of corpses show up for no reason when there aren't bombs falling and there's no usage of FAEs on -suspected- areas of possible combatants already has them way more "moral" than Russia and China. I'm pretty sure if the US had a similar issue, we'd show no more mercy than those two. The only reason Israel isn't engaging in WW2 style carpet bombing is they still worry about losing US/NATO support. If it weren't for that, I'm pretty sure Israel's borders would look an awful lot like the Ottoman Empire's by now Booblord Zagats fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Booblord Zagats posted:Mexico would be a crater. Israel shows way more restraint than any world power would given a similar situation. Look at Chechnya and how China handles EVERYTHING Frankly if they just went out and did the proper response to these things they'd get way less flak. The "restraint" just encourages them. Its not something they respect.
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Booblord Zagats posted:The only reason Israel isn't engaging in WW2 style carpet bombing is they still worry about losing US/NATO support. If it weren't for that, I'm pretty sure Israel's borders would look an awful lot like the Ottoman Empire's by now The Turks might have something to say about that.
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If canada or mexico started lobbing rockets over the border, you better loving bet that the entire country would be glassed within 36 hours. The Israelis have the patience of saints when it comes to poo poo like that.
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psydude posted:Can't we just admit that both Israel and Palestine are terrible loving places and leave them to perpetually kill eachother in peace? Moral equivalency in action, also claiming Palestine is an actual place Booblord Zagats posted:If it weren't for that, I'm pretty sure Israel's borders would look an awful lot like the Ottoman Empire's by now All those ultraorthodox Russian immigrants aren't breeding that fast
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Snowdens Secret posted:Moral equivalency in action, also claiming Palestine is an actual place I dunno, it'd go along with our current stance of inaction on Sudan, Ukraine, and Syria.
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A different post for a slightly more serious response:Loving Africa Chaps posted:You need to give palestinians 3 billion dollars too to even it up. Think of the rad rockets they'd come up if they had that. Iron Dome was specifically designed to be as economically efficient as possible, by determining the risk class and target of incoming projectiles, only attempting kills at the ones actually aimed at high-value targets, and using the least expensive kill vehicle possible for each case (I think they have three options based on range/altitude.) It's a good bit more sensible than the '91 Iraq War's "hurl a Patriot at everything" system, and is sufficiently more advanced than anything we've got that the US is licensing the tech. The aid to the Palestinian Authority, Egypt and Jordan added together exceeds what Israel gets. In theory some of the money to Egypt goes to keeping the Suez open but strategically the entire rest of that cash is essentially a bribe to not fight Israel. Nevertheless, quite a bit of it goes to those rockets getting lobbed today, as well as a variety of other weaponry used and intended only for use against Israelis. Obviously not an unbiased source but worth quoting: http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2014/07/10/sunny-with-light-missile-cover-here-in-tel-aviv/ quote:Sunny with light missile cover in Tel Aviv this morning. I awoke to muffled thuds in the distance, Iron Dome shooting down Syrian-made missiles launched from Gaza, according to news reports. I attended the obligatory morning mixer for hotel guests at the bomb shelter, which fortunately lasted only five minutes before the all-clear sounded. ...the thumbnail version is that Hamas is making a demonstration out of weakness. Money is tight, 44,000 Gaza civil servants haven’t been paid for weeks, and the IDF did significant damage to its infrastructure on the West Bank after the kidnapping-murder of the three yeshiva boys. Netanyahu will look indecisive and confused, because he has to deal with an openly hostile U.S. administration on one side and his nationalist camp on the other. Time, though, is on Israel’s side: economically, demographically, strategically. The proportion of Jewish births continues to soar. The fruits of a decade of venture capital investing are ripening into high-valuation companies. And the Arab world is disintegrating all around Israel’s borders.
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Lazy Reservist posted:Israel is looking for an ultimate answer, a final solution, if you will, to the Arab question
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I laughed.
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Closing out some tabs, this came out while the servers were down: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/22/poland-foreign-minister-alliance-us-worthless quote:A Polish news magazine said on Sunday it had obtained a secret recording of Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, in contention for a senior European Union job, saying that Poland's relationship with the United States was worthless. That's apparently not that uncommon a view in recent Poland, or, of course, elsewhere.
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He called America a friend of the family?
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Godholio posted:He called America a friend of the family? I -think- he said Poland was America's friend of the family. That'd go in line with the 'The Polish are Europe's blacks / Mexicans' opinions that get thrown around a lot over there. E: quoted from elsewhere: quote:In some regards, In my observation, I may be inclined to agree with him. In my opinion (and that of many other Polish Diaspora here in the U.S.), Poland has been used as sort of a ‘shortstop’ in the affairs of the world; covering the holes of necessity when and where they are needed but not really given the equal reciprocation and due respect that should go along with that due credit and respect. Whenever the U.S. needs Poland, then they come, hat in hand full of promises. Americans probably don't find themselves saying "poo poo, where are the Poles?" whenever something comes up, but they are pretty active and I can see the perspective from the Polish side being a little different. Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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