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So help me out here. Would it be considered mass murder if we Hatian packed D&D into a train, shipped them to Arizona and baked them at 325 for half an hour? Or would it be considered a public service?
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:Looking at Hitlers domestic policies especially early on he's a dnders wet dream. Not really. They pretty much cannibalized the economy to rebuild the military while abandoning the social welfare aspect of their platform almost immediately, and kept along that track for the entirety of the regime. Not exactly the "Socialism" D&D is so hungry for, especially since the Nazis fought battles in the streets against actual socialists to wipe them out various times throughout the early '30s. Also, regarding I/P, the biggest problem is that when you get down to it, nobody has any idea what to do about it and sitting on the issue only drives people to radicalism. 1948 created a huge refugee crisis in both Gaza and the West Bank, and the resentment of the Palestinians for being forcibly driven from the land and their homes only increased after the WB and Gaza were captured from Jordan and Egypt respectively in '67 and Israel started building settlements in the captured territories, driving out the Palestinians from even more land and restricting their freedom of movement in an already postage-stamp size of a territory*. At this point, the fact is that Israel holds all the cards, and as much negotiating the Palestinians could theoretically do nothing will change until the Israeli government lets it, which is decidedly not on the agenda for the current government. So it's not surprising that many Palestinians turn to violence, as it's the only avenue of change many of them feel they have left. And it's not surprising that the Israelis don't want to give up ground, because they already effectively hold the entire country and have nothing to gain in negotiations, and with regard to settlements everything to lose. Unfortunately, what this also means is that because Israel is a staunchly Jewish country, anti-Israel sentiments often turn into full-blown antisemitism, even though Judaism=/ Zionism and vice versa (See the many Christian evangelicals in the US who firmly support Israel). It's a fantastically lovely situation all around, and one that will likely have no solution since at this point there's just too much bad blood between the peoples. Palestinians shooting rockets into Israel, no matter how justified they think they are, only enrages otherwise reasonable Israelis, and 70+ years of refugee status because of Israel's policies isn't going to be easy for many Palestinians to forgive. poo poo sucks. *I mean seriously, look at this poo poo, it's ridiculous.  Every one of the blue lines represents a "Settlement Bypass Road" that allows settlers to drive from Israel into West Bank settlements quickly and easily. Palestinians cannot use them except without a special permit. Given that the roads only serve the settlements and often ignore existing Palestinian towns, roads, and farms, it's not hard to see how they would make it much more difficult for a Palestinian to go from one side of the territory to another.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:I'm in as long as they glass Seattle first. Also break off Utah as a Mormon reservation/prison. Portland has most of the same cultural problems that come with being a move destination for white twenty-something occupy-wall-street twits, not much in the way of natural beauty, and worse food. Glass Portland! Seattle can be saved! Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Almost everything in that last I/P post was wrong, hth
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If you guys want to jerk it about nuking canada, please revive the Clancy thread. Let's keep this one on topic of actual current events.
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Genocide Tendency posted:So help me out here. Would it be considered mass murder if we Hatian packed D&D into a train, shipped them to Arizona and baked them at 325 for half an hour? Neither, just an enterprising solar oven project
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Snowdens Secret posted:Almost everything in that last I/P post was wrong, hth Oh really. If so, please enlighten me on how Israel really hasn't been making GBS threads on Palestinians for 70+ years.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Oh really. If so, please enlighten me on how Israel really hasn't been making GBS threads on Palestinians for 70+ years. I'll break it down in terms you'll understand See, Israel is like the Eldar. They're an ancient race with a long claim to their world, but some filthy Space Orks came and pushed them off it a few thousand years ago. These are disgusting Orks, they rape children, they blow themselves up on space-buses, and they enslave other Orks because they spell "Waaaaaaggghh" with only 5 A's instead of 7. Well after the Eldar were forced in to a terrible space-prison 80 years ago by Chaos Marines, the Empire saved them and liberated their homeworld for them from the Orks, but left some there because they weren't sure if the other Chaos worlds were going to attack soon, so they had to save up on Bolter ammo. So the Eldar are then equipped by the gallant Space Marines with some solid Imperial weaponry to make sure the Orks didn't over run the Eldar, who had endured some terrible poo poo. So now the Eldar, after centuries of lovely weapons and being the weakest in the area and sunjected to the cruel whims of the Orks, had enough power to finally push them back. Well the merciful Empire of Man kept pumping Bolters, Plasma pistols, Chain-Saw swords and other poo poo to the Eldar because the Orks Kept screaming "Waaaaaaagh!" (Seven A's, this time) and trying to overrun the poor Eldar over and over. But a bunch of pussy-rear end (most likely Tau traitors) living int he Empire kept crying their eyes out because the Eldar were getting insane 120:1 K/D ratios against the filthy, land grubbing and encroaching Orks. But these traitorous thinkers are idiots, because the Orks aren't even human, and while the Eldar aren't either, they're much more pleasing to the eye, and they can be bothered to try and look like humans, so the wise and all knowing Emperor made sure to shine his favor upon them. So the Eldar, not being stupid like the poorly evolved and ill-bred Orks continue to pay tribute in the skulls of crushed Ork Clans while they are still busy fighting each other over the spelling of "Waaaaaaagh", and continue to keep the Empire safe with it's mere existence, since otherwise it would be a frontier completely overrun by Orks. SInce the Orks are too stupid to even plan a proper offensive any more and just attack with random space rockets being fired from their hovels when they aren't too busy loving squigs and raping their nephews, the K/D ratios are going WAY UP some more. So the Eldar continue to fight the forces of Chaos under our shared banner of might and wisdom. There ya go buddy Booblord Zagats fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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I unironically grasp the Israel/Palestine conflict now. Wow.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Almost everything in that last I/P post was wrong, hth Factually it's not, the point is that the facts don't matter- gently caress those savages, we gave 'em a seat at the table to get their little state, they cried and said no, tried to eradicate us, and will now be subject to us. It's as simple as that. We don't have to be honest peace brokers, we owe the world, least of loving all the failed perpetrators of our eradication, nothing. Not a goddamn thing. The extreme measures that are taken to save civilian lives when Israel high speed delivers HMX to a Hamas connected building are insane. They send loving text messages, flyers, radio broadcasts, and a dummy bomb, all in the name if saving these subhumans from their rightful retribution. It's so loving Jewish to have the most blood thirsty and technologically capable military force in the cradle of human civilization and still make warfare into a loving Woody Allen movie. We needn't hide open contempt for these savages, honestly. gently caress them all, you've not seen a holocaust until you've peeped the directors cut remix. When the last Savage takes it's last breath in the last fight we'll finally know peace in the Middle East. But I kid you not, it'll have to be a peace on top a pile of skulls because anything less will just continue the same loving cycle that started before humans developed written language.
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The Holocaust made y'all really angry.
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holocaust bloopers posted:The Holocaust made y'all really angry. Anne Frankly I just don't understand why
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Booblord Zagats posted:Anne Frankly I just don't understand why 
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Booblord Zagats posted:Anne Frankly I just don't understand why 
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Obama Africanus posted:We needn't hide open contempt for these savages, honestly. gently caress them all, you've not seen a holocaust until you've peeped the directors cut remix. When the last Savage takes it's last breath in the last fight we'll finally know peace in the Middle East. But I kid you not, it'll have to be a peace on top a pile of skulls because anything less will just continue the same loving cycle that started before humans developed written language. This is somehow more 40k than Booblord's explanation. quote:It's so loving Jewish to have the most blood thirsty and technologically capable military force in the cradle of human civilization and still make warfare into a loving Woody Allen movie. lol
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Victor Vermis posted:This is somehow more 40k than Booblord's explanation. I just like that we both wrote the same post, I just ran mine through a neckbeard filter
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Russia ran the numbers and realized they don't want another shithole that their navy is not already parked in, and are leaving the rebels to die. But they are still filtering supplies to the rebels, presumably out of spite. There is still plenty of room for the Ukrainian military to act with enough ruthlessness, incompetence or both to turn the fake civil war into a real civil war though in which case who knows what anyone would do.
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:I don't care if it's part of North North America already, I just want Seattle turned into a glowing crater with a sign saying "Don't Be Like This." Wait, so why is the guy from Pennsyltucky ragging on Seattle? e: re: I/P - Can't we just blame this on the British like everything else in the ME/SWA and stop giving a gently caress about that lovely area of the world? psydude fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Oh really. If so, please enlighten me on how Israel really hasn't been making GBS threads on Palestinians for 70+ years. If you want me to Fisk it that'll have to wait till the evening when I'm off work, but it's basically your standard 'poo poo I learned at the student union' ball of libels and nonsense. The worst of which is probably the 'anti-Zionism is what's breeding anti-Semitism' line which is actively, dangerously ignorant and wrong Obama Africanus posted:Factually it's not, the point is that the facts don't matter- gently caress those savages, we gave 'em a seat at the table to get their little state, they cried and said no, tried to eradicate us, and will now be subject to us. Not agreeing with a Shim trollpost, but ironically pointing out of that the Brits only called it 'Palestine' as a play off 'Philistine', which in Hebrew as in English means, basically, 'savage'. They did this to troll the Jews who thought they'd get their state there after the Ottomans fell, because the Brit Foreign Office at the time was (shockingly) packed with raging anti-Semites. Either no one told the Arab refugees this until it was too late, or they just didn't care.
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Obama Africanus posted:Nobody wants war with the northern tribes and their restless youth. But history is pretty clear on this- they need to pay tribute, and most of us can agree that this tribute should come before the harvest, right? So buying our F-35's isn't tribute enough? The way that thing is shaping up it's a combination of tribute and punishment.
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Snowdens Secret posted:the Brits only called it 'Palestine' as a play off 'Philistine', which in Hebrew as in English means, basically, 'savage'. Sed contra, the Brits called it Palestine because that's what the Romans called the region in the time before your ancestors "sought death in the error of their life" en masse at Masada: Ovid posted:[T]erribilem quondam fugiens Typhona Dione,
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There's an entire wikipedia article concerning the etymological origins of the name, which appears to be derived from the term the Egyptians used for people of that region.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Not agreeing with a Shim trollpost, but ironically pointing out of that the Brits only called it 'Palestine' as a play off 'Philistine', which in Hebrew as in English means, basically, 'savage'. They did this to troll the Jews who thought they'd get their state there after the Ottomans fell, because the Brit Foreign Office at the time was (shockingly) packed with raging anti-Semites. Either no one told the Arab refugees this until it was too late, or they just didn't care. Speaking of 'poo poo I learned at the student union' ...
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psydude posted:Wait, so why is the guy from Pennsyltucky ragging on Seattle? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVUOGUmxJI
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Zeroisanumber posted:We probably should've incorporated Cuba as a state after the Spanish-American War, but we had an attack of idealism and let them go. Could've saved ourselves a lot of bother. That wasn't idealism. Private corporations wanted insanely cheap labor and little/no govt influence or restrictions. The govt didn't want to accept responsibility for these dirt-poor islands and former colonies, so it basically stood back and watched while everything predictably went to hell.
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psydude posted:Wait, so why is the guy from Pennsyltucky ragging on Seattle? tangentially, the post in the DnD thread lamenting that Israel can't just peacefully and quickly end its independence movement problem just like the English did with all theirs is loving golden.
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It's funny how all that Muslim garbage about taking care of the poor and needy goes out the window when keeping the Palestinians confined to a few strips of land is the issue. It's not like they were scrambling to take care of them prior to Israel's takeover of the territories. What possible motive could they possibly have for leaving all those poor oppressed people sitting right there?  Ceterum censeo Ummahem esse delendam.
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Derek Dominoe posted:It's funny how all that Muslim garbage about taking care of the poor and needy goes out the window when keeping the Palestinians confined to a few strips of land is the issue. It's not like they were scrambling to take care of them prior to Israel's takeover of the territories. What possible motive could they possibly have for leaving all those poor oppressed people sitting right there? Oh yeah, at BEST the Palestinian situation has only ever been used by the leadership of the surrounding countries as convenient propaganda, when they weren't being sold out directly. There's a reason why Jordan never really tried very hard to get the West Bank back after '67.
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Someone make a Snowden thunderdome thread specifically for I/P talk. This poo poo sucks.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Someone make a Snowden thunderdome thread specifically for I/P talk. This poo poo sucks. gently caress that noise, Shim and I are belting them out of the park, Officer Rinds
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Booblord Zagats posted:gently caress that noise, Shim and I are belting them out of the park, Officer Rinds Someone please change whips name to Officer Rinds tia.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Fine then, I'll just make some small changes to this thread. I love you in a totally platonic way where head is given on occasion, but only out of pity
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Obama Africanus posted:Factually it's not, the point is that the facts don't matter- gently caress those savages, we gave 'em a seat at the table to get their little state, they cried and said no, tried to eradicate us, and will now be subject to us. quote:Most [snip] technologically capable military force quote:cradle of human civilization Purely going by the numbers it seems quicker to kill all the Israelis then the Arabs, agreed? I mean no one's going to miss their eurovision entry anyway
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Booblord Zagats posted:I love you in a totally platonic way where head is given on occasion, but only out of pity It's like Mike in Rescue Me. Lives with a dude who gives him blowjobs, claims he isn't gay, and acts really confused when the dude gets upset over him not reciprocating.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:lol Purely going by human value, the Jews are worth keeping around. Rag heads aren't. Besides while there are more, they Tetris themselves into mud huts as opposed to civilized people. So each bomb dropped has a greater effect when targeting Al Sheik Moobla Hakmar Allam Mohammed than it does when express delivered to Shemel.
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