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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Can we talk less about our plans for masturbating during the nuclear holocaust and go back to discussing the actual news? There's plenty of it out there today.

Revive the Tom Clancy thread if you want to talk about your geopolitical sexual fantasies.

No, we probably can't, Officer Krupke. I get that you saw a bunch of people were talking and having a conversation so your natural Suinae instincts were to come nosing around for truffles. It's understandable, really. But you've got the wrong group of people here if you're looking for anyone who gives even the remotest gently caress about what you would like to happen re: people talking. When Meowlins starts weaving webs with something witty and funny to include next to everything you post we'll pay attention, but until then.. Blue ribbon at the county fair or not, you are just walking talking uncured bacon in our eyes.

ATTICA.

ATTICA.

ATTICA.

You got a link to the Clancy thread? I can't find it.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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You'll probably have to start a new one.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Obama Africanus posted:

No, we probably can't, Officer Krupke. I get that you saw a bunch of people were talking and having a conversation so your natural Suinae instincts were to come nosing around for truffles. It's understandable, really. But you've got the wrong group of people here if you're looking for anyone who gives even the remotest gently caress about what you would like to happen re: people talking. When Meowlins starts weaving webs with something witty and funny to include next to everything you post we'll pay attention, but until then.. Blue ribbon at the county fair or not, you are just walking talking uncured bacon in our eyes.

ATTICA.

ATTICA.

ATTICA.

You got a link to the Clancy thread? I can't find it.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3613906

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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BigDave posted:

This might be a dumb question, but what would any faction gain from a intentional shootdown? It was a Malaysian Airlines plane carrying mostly Dutch passengers, how do the rebels, the fake rebels or the Russians benefit?

Everything so far seems to point down that the rebels thought it was a cargo airplane and shot it down. So it was a mistake but that doesn't absolve them of responsibility and the fact is that 298 civilians are dead, most of whom were from NATO countries.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

BigDave posted:

This might be a dumb question, but what would any faction gain from a intentional shootdown? It was a Malaysian Airlines plane carrying mostly Dutch passengers, how do the rebels, the fake rebels or the Russians benefit?

Most likely it was an accident.. Kinda.

They seem to have thought it was a Ukrainian transport before they lit it up

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

He had a ray gun. It looked real enough.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
Whip if we wanted a well moderated noise free place to discuss current events on the smartest forum on the internet we wouldn't post in GiP. We'd be autistic internet marxists and gently caress realdolls much to our parents' shame, and post in D&D. Hell, we'd probably masturbate to Scrooge Mcduck slashfic and sniff girls' hair on the train.

But we don't, we post in GiP. Where it's okay to pray for nuclear fire to cleanse the earth of gender fluidity and the matriarchy.

Why are you so firmly against this, it's like you've dug your little piggy hooves into the mud as best as you can to keep comedy from happening on international Tom Clancy Day (7/17/2014 never forget).

In other news, the BBC is still firmly refusing to outright call this a shootdown or terrorist act on their world service. Commentators and outsiders have been allowed to say it, but their broadcasters are very much avoiding calling it a shootdown, and instead a crash or one that "went down or came down."

Is this just journalistic integrity, or foolish at this point? Because cursory searches and research show how obviously this plane was shot down. I get that they can't just run with internet rumor, but wow.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


That'll do, Shim. That'll do.

Now back to the discussion.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Obama Africanus posted:

Whip if we wanted a well moderated noise free place to discuss current events on the smartest forum on the internet we wouldn't post in GiP. We'd be autistic internet marxists and gently caress realdolls much to our parents' shame, and post in D&D. Hell, we'd probably masturbate to Scrooge Mcduck slashfic and sniff girls' hair on the train.

But we don't, we post in GiP. Where it's okay to pray for nuclear fire to cleanse the earth of gender fluidity and the matriarchy.

Why are you so firmly against this, it's like you've dug your little piggy hooves into the mud as best as you can to keep comedy from happening on international Tom Clancy Day (7/17/2014 never forget).

In other news, the BBC is still firmly refusing to outright call this a shootdown or terrorist act on their world service. Commentators and outsiders have been allowed to say it, but their broadcasters are very much avoiding calling it a shootdown, and instead a crash or one that "went down or came down."

Is this just journalistic integrity, or foolish at this point? Because cursory searches and research show how obviously this plane was shot down. I get that they can't just run with internet rumor, but wow.

Most of Europe depends on Russian petrol products for heating and industry, so they'd be slow to call Russia on bullshit when the walkin actually gets tough.

Sure it's ok to poo-poo at Russia over possibly assisting in the capture of a spit of land that most of Europe couldn't give a gently caress about, but now there's a bunch of actual real Europeans involved and it is put up or shut up time, Europe decided to shut up.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jul 18, 2014

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Obama Africanus posted:

Whip if we wanted a well moderated noise free place to discuss current events on the smartest forum on the internet we wouldn't post in GiP. We'd be autistic internet marxists and gently caress realdolls much to our parents' shame, and post in D&D. Hell, we'd probably masturbate to Scrooge Mcduck slashfic and sniff girls' hair on the train.

But we don't, we post in GiP. Where it's okay to pray for nuclear fire to cleanse the earth of gender fluidity and the matriarchy.

Why are you so firmly against this, it's like you've dug your little piggy hooves into the mud as best as you can to keep comedy from happening on international Tom Clancy Day (7/17/2014 never forget).

In other news, the BBC is still firmly refusing to outright call this a shootdown or terrorist act on their world service. Commentators and outsiders have been allowed to say it, but their broadcasters are very much avoiding calling it a shootdown, and instead a crash or one that "went down or came down."

Is this just journalistic integrity, or foolish at this point? Because cursory searches and research show how obviously this plane was shot down. I get that they can't just run with internet rumor, but wow.

My understanding is that the BBC are really really really loathe to post anything that they don't know as absolute 100% fact, and while every other motherfucker on the planet knows what happened, they're getting whatever confirmation now that they need to say it was shot down. I mean, it was shot down, you'd need to be a loving retard not to know it was shot down, and the BBC will be calling it shot down within the next 12 hours for sure.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


To be fair to the BBC, I haven't seen any news outlet say that it was shot down. They'd probably like to have some "official" confirmation before they start rolling out that line. But hey whatever, we all know what happened.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Fojar38 posted:

Everything so far seems to point down that the rebels thought it was a cargo airplane and shot it down. So it was a mistake but that doesn't absolve them of responsibility and the fact is that 298 civilians are dead, most of whom were from NATO countries.

I guess the big question is, are we going to treat this as a legit 'Woops! Didn't mean to kill 300 people!' cock-up, or are we going to intervene in some way?

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Whip Slagcheek posted:

To be fair to the BBC, I haven't seen any news outlet say that it was shot down.

:cmon:

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Whip Slagcheek posted:

To be fair to the BBC, I haven't seen any news outlet say that it was shot down.
http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=shot+down&FORM=HDRSC6
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=shot+down&safe=off&tbm=nws

efb :argh:

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night



That's new to me, when I looked at CNN an hour ago or so they were still saying "Crashed"

I guess with Diamond Joe coming out and saying it was shot down that its enough for them.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



BigDave posted:

I guess the big question is, are we going to treat this as a legit 'Woops! Didn't mean to kill 300 people!' cock-up, or are we going to intervene in some way?

Lol if you think the US is gonna do anything except for mutter some vague threats and navel gaze. The US couldn't give two shits about stuff happening outside its borders, especially during a fiscal drawdown and in the middle of us trying to pull out of Afghan so hard that the loving tires are burning smoke.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

FOX News had a graphic saying "shot down by a missile" at 5PM Eastern.

23 Americans on board? That's going to go over well...

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Yeah there's not going to be any provocative moves on the part of the US or NATO countries. A bunch of vague threatening words, an uptick in military exercises, and some additional funding/training being shipped off to Kiev.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Yeah there's not going to be any provocative moves on the part of the US or NATO countries. A bunch of vague threatening words, an uptick in military exercises, and some additional funding/training being shipped off to Kiev.

Oh. I admit, that makes what happened much less exciting. Still unspeakably horrible and tragic.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



CBJSprague24 posted:

FOX News had a graphic saying "shot down by a missile" at 5PM Eastern.

23 Americans on board? That's going to go over well...

You mean 23 Australians?

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Y'all have been saying "We should stay out, we should do nothing, yadda yadda" and all of a sudden some random rear end country's plane gets shot down by pretend-state non-state actors and people are talking missiles flying and trying on their old flightsuits

Ain't poo poo gonna happen

orange juche posted:

Most of Europe depends on Russian petrol products for heating and industry, so they'd be slow to call Russia on bullshit when the walkin gets tough.

I've been wanting an excuse to get back to energy talk



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-15/hungry-u-s-power-plant-turns-to-russia-for-coal-shipment.html

quote:

Utilities in the U.S. are scrambling for coal, on pace to increase imports 26 percent this year, as railroad bottlenecks slow deliveries and electricity demand climbs with an improving economy. Russia, the world’s third-largest exporter of the fuel, will boost shipments 3.9 percent to 106 million metric tons this year, IHS Energy forecasts, part of President Vladimir Putin’s plan to expand Russia’s role in the global coal market.

“Everyone’s aware that a number of plants have low stockpiles, so you hear Russian coal and they say, ‘Oh wow, people must really be desperate,’” James Stevenson, Houston-based director of North American coal at IHS, said in a July 8 telephone interview.

There's also a whole bunch of stories about how the Euros are desperate to get us to export oil and how shale oil production and fracking have tremendously kept the price of gas down by increasing the politically stable supply, but I didn't want to antagonize the dudes that think gas is controlled by a shadowy cabal of '90s speculators and domestic 'fossil fuel barons'

Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jul 18, 2014

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Yeah there's not going to be any provocative moves on the part of the US or NATO countries. A bunch of vague threatening words, an uptick in military exercises, and some additional funding/training being shipped off to Kiev.

I disagree, Charlotte.

Putin's russia put SA-11's in rebel hands and triple digit Europeans got killed in an attack as a result.. The public is going to want blood, and they should. It gets scarier when you consider that if this happened, then they're really playing super loving fast and loose over in Ukraine. Even faster and looser than we had feared, and that leads to a lot of questions about the entirety of the Russian machine from top to bottom. Who's running the show in Russia for this Eastern Ukraine adventure? How far down has the delegation gone for something as loving stupid as "Hand SA-11's to Ukrainian separatists" or worse yet who put Russian SA-11's and their operators in Ukraine, and let them shoot down a 777?

It's goddamn ugly from top to bottom, too ugly to just stare at our feet and mumble. Honestly.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Have there been any reports of Americans on board? I haven't seen anything, just a bunch of Europeans and some SE Asians.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Have there been any reports of Americans on board? I haven't seen anything, just a bunch of Europeans and some SE Asians.

23 Americans is being tossed around but I haven't found a decisive source yet.

orange juche posted:

You mean 23 Australians?

There were 27 Australians.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

orange juche posted:

You mean 23 Australians?

27 Australians, I read somewhere it was 60 Americans yeah that was complete bullshit, sorry.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT
:siren: CONFIRMED 506 AMERICANS :siren:

Helldump Immunity.
Aug 2, 2013

Fuck you

gleep gloop posted:

:siren: CONFIRMED 506 WHITE AMERICANS :siren:

:ohdear:

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



gleep gloop posted:

:siren: CONFIRMED 506 AMERICANS :siren:

It's the 2/3's compromise all over again, but in reverse.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

We can turn off almost every credit card in Russia and I hope we do, unless they immediately go "whoops sorry here's Eastern Ukraine back and hell here's Crimea."

I'm not hopeful we'll actually do that though.

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

The first rule of No Avatar Club is: you do not talk about No Avatar Club. The second rule of No Avatar Club is: you DO NOT talk about No Avatar Club
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

23 Americans is being tossed around but I haven't found a decisive source yet.


There were 27 Australians.

You're Dutch, right? What's everyone saying over there?

But, like, in English

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Memento posted:

"an intercepted phone call between Russian military offices and separatist rebels, in which they reportedly acknowledge shooting down a plane."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Barracuda Bang! posted:

You're Dutch, right? What's everyone saying over there?

But, like, in English

I'm not Dutch.

terrez
Mar 20, 2012

gleep gloop posted:

:siren: CONFIRMED 506 AMERICANS :siren:

someone email this post to cnn

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

Booblord Zagats posted:

Most likely it was an accident.. Kinda.

They seem to have thought it was a Ukrainian transport before they lit it up

"Hey Svetslana what does this button do? Oh whoops."

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.

That link led me to

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/don-t-call-me-ginger.html

which taught me that this upcoming Sunday is Kick A Ginger Day http://kick-a-ginger-day.com/

I also found a link to http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/slut-shaming-sexworkgenderclass.html which was written by a whore.

Are we sure this plane just isn't the one from before that once was lost, but now am found?

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.

Fojar38 posted:

23 Americans is being tossed around

I can show you where they landed

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

The first rule of No Avatar Club is: you do not talk about No Avatar Club. The second rule of No Avatar Club is: you DO NOT talk about No Avatar Club
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

I'm not Dutch.

Then you ain't much

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
The Dutch are saying it's the worst Dutch airplane-related disaster since Tenerife. Rutte hasn't really said anything. It's the middle of the night over there right now.

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.
This entire event smells of viral marketing gone wrong

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980706/

Opening tomorrow in theaters near you.

(See it early at Cinemark today)


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ws-9613241.html
The thriller was set to air at 9pm but has been replaced by Road to Perdition

chemosh6969 fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jul 18, 2014

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Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


chemosh6969 posted:

This entire event smells of viral marketing gone wrong

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980706/

Opening tomorrow in theaters near you.

(See it early at Cinemark today)


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ws-9613241.html
The thriller was set to air at 9pm but has been replaced by Road to Perdition

Who knew that Dane Cook was still alive?

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