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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


terrez posted:

someone email this post to cnn
They rely exclusively on twitter now.

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chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ian-border.html

Were they flying in a no-fly zone, like the article says?


There's also a pic of a girl mourning the loss of Pilot Parker.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



chemosh6969 posted:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ian-border.html

Were they flying in a no-fly zone, like the article says?

There's also a pic of a girl mourning the loss of Pilot Parker.

It's the drat daily mail, that's the :foxnews: of british news agencies.

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.

orange juche posted:

It's the drat daily mail, that's the :foxnews: of british news agencies.

It seems like nearly every news site from the Brits that I visit looks like a tabloid. Point taken and I'll remember that.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

orange juche posted:

It's the drat daily mail, that's the :foxnews: of british news agencies.

If that's the case, wouldn't they be spinning it in the opposite direction?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

chemosh6969 posted:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ian-border.html

Were they flying in a no-fly zone, like the article says?


There's also a pic of a girl mourning the loss of Pilot Parker.


The no-fly zone applied under 29,000 feet, so commercial jets were exempt.

Updated list of casualties by nationality, from the airline

code:
Nationality   Total
Netherlands         154
Malaysia            45 (including 15 crew)
Australia           27
Indonesia           12
United Kingdom      9
Germany             4
Belgium             4
Philippines         3
Canada              1
Unverified          41
Total               298

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

chemosh6969 posted:

It seems like nearly every news site from the Brits that I visit looks like a tabloid. Point taken and I'll remember that.

With the exception of BBC and Telegraph pretty much every English paper and news site has been forced to fill itself with tabloid smut shots and a big-titted Page 5 girl spread. You kinda wish the weaker US papers would follow suit, NYT would be a lot more tolerable with some light T&A

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Wonder if the German public will still think moving away from the US and building stronger ties with Russia is a good idea.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Mustang posted:

Wonder if the German public will still think moving away from the US and building stronger ties with Russia is a good idea.

Have the Germans always been dumb?

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

Have the Germans always been dumb?


Maybe not dumb but severely lacking in foresight.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Memento posted:

Updated list of casualties by nationality, from the airline

code:
Nationality   Total
Netherlands         154
Malaysia            45 (including 15 crew)
Australia           27
Indonesia           12
United Kingdom      9
Germany             4
Belgium             4
Philippines         3
Canada              1
Unverified          41
Total               298

Man this whole thing just sucks so bad, I know we are supposed to be vicious babykillers or some poo poo according to D&D but no-one likes seeing civvies die, apparently even the militants, judging from their reactions to investigating the wreckage of the crash.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Obama Africanus posted:

I disagree, Charlotte.
:spergin: Charlotte was the spider.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

orange juche posted:

Man this whole thing just sucks so bad, I know we are supposed to be vicious babykillers or some poo poo according to D&D but no-one likes seeing civvies die, apparently even the militants, judging from their reactions to investigating the wreckage of the crash.

Except for that one Russian general dude on that phone-call linked above who said that because they were flying in Ukrainian airspace they must have all been spies :psyduck:

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

gleep gloop posted:

:siren: CONFIRMED 506 WHITE AMERICANS :siren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv13ZnkpWos

Edit: If this jet flew directly over the top of an SA-11, it was in the engagement envelope for under two minutes (the time drops RAPIDLY from there). That means they had to be tracking it prior to entering the MEZ. There's no excuse for an "accident" like that. It's not like it was some dude with an SA-7 on his shoulder who happens to spot a target nearby and takes advantage.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jul 18, 2014

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


We shall all look back on the Great Moskal Cull of 2014 fondly.

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

Snowdens Secret posted:

With the exception of BBC and Telegraph pretty much every English paper and news site has been forced to fill itself with tabloid smut shots and a big-titted Page 5 girl spread. You kinda wish the weaker US papers would follow suit, NYT would be a lot more tolerable with some light T&A

The US equivalent of Sun readers are functionally illiterate so it would be more like if FOX News rebroadcasted Cinemax programming after Hannity. Or they could probably just have some of the blondes take their tops off on air, that would probably get better rating tbh.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I want Fox News to just go full Telemundo. But topless.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

chemosh6969 posted:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ian-border.html

Were they flying in a no-fly zone, like the article says?


There's also a pic of a girl mourning the loss of Pilot Parker.


Was Pilot Parker on the plane? I read Malaysia took the picture of him down because they thought it was insensitive to have it just before their next tweet about having a plane blown out of the sky.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

I slept all afternoon and this is what I wake up to.

Fun.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:

I slept all afternoon and this is what I wake up to.

Fun.

Please don't tell Roscoe. It would upset him. :ohdear:

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

holocaust bloopers posted:

Please don't tell Roscoe. It would upset him. :ohdear:

Nah hes sleepin right now, not gonna worry him.

Any news on the gaza ground attack, or are we still only hearing about the mobility kill?

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

chemosh6969 posted:

Were they flying in a no-fly zone, like the article says?



quote:

Four missile mounted on a tracked chassis
:spergin:

brains
May 12, 2004

Godholio posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv13ZnkpWos

Edit: If this jet flew directly over the top of an SA-11, it was in the engagement envelope for under two minutes (the time drops RAPIDLY from there). That means they had to be tracking it prior to entering the MEZ. There's no excuse for an "accident" like that. It's not like it was some dude with an SA-7 on his shoulder who happens to spot a target nearby and takes advantage.

this is a really big loving problem cause there's no way some goddamn "separatist" pulled a point-and-shoot on an aircraft at FL33 without direct russian involvement.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

holocaust bloopers posted:

You guys will be real sad if us 3 die in an AWACS shoot down.

Everyone knows AWACS never gets shot down.

Now, if we had any Black Hawk pilots in GiP we'd have cause to be concerned.

brains posted:

this is a really big loving problem cause there's no way some goddamn "separatist" pulled a point-and-shoot on an aircraft at FL33 without direct russian involvement.

Define "direct" "Russian" and "involvement."

Because how those terms are defined by the players as the narrative progresses will impact how this goes.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

iyaayas01 posted:

Now, if we had any Black Hawk pilots in GiP we'd have cause to be concerned.

Helicopters routinely fall out of the sky without any intervention.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
I believe I made the "lol the Russians did this" assertion hours ago. Just because it reads like a mad man wrote it doesn't make it false.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Quote I heard from a Black Hawk pilot I know

Lyn Montross posted:

The helicopter symbolizes the victory of ingenuity over common sense.

brains
May 12, 2004

iyaayas01 posted:

Define "direct" "Russian" and "involvement."
as in you don't just get a SA-11 dropped in your lap and a week later nail a target barely in the top edge of the MEZ without some active training or without a professional on the controls.

iyaayas01 posted:

Now, if we had any Black Hawk pilots in GiP we'd have cause to be concerned.
welp,

to be honest though, all of the MANPADS threats already there before this made me nervous. i doubt they'll bother expending a mid-level SAM on a hawk when there are dozens of SA-7s laying around. not to mention the SA-18s...


edit: speculating any outcome is pointless; though don't worry because CNN will come up with enough inane bullshit to cover literally any circumstance.

brains fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jul 18, 2014

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VA4W1wDMAk

This is also re-bringing up talk of adding anti-missile countermeasures to civilian aircraft, but I'm really wondering what (presumably) simple chaff and flares would do against an SA-11 or better

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Snowdens Secret posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VA4W1wDMAk

This is also re-bringing up talk of adding anti-missile countermeasures to civilian aircraft, but I'm really wondering what (presumably) simple chaff and flares would do against an SA-11 or better

Add another fee that airliners could pass off to consumers!

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Oh boy.

quote:

About 100 of the 298 people killed in the Malaysia Airlines crash were heading to Melbourne for a major AIDS conference, conference attendees have been told.

Delegates at a pre-conference in Sydney were told on Friday morning that around 100 medical researchers, health workers and activists were on the plane that went down near the Russia-Ukraine border, including former International AIDS Society president Joep Lange.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Why do Ukrainian separatists hate AIDS researchers??

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
The irony of all those researchers losing their lives to a high-speed interceptor vehicle

Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jul 18, 2014

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
:stare:

100 AIDS researchers snuffed out with the push of a button. That's a goddamn economic and scientific loss that's impossible to quantify.

Jesus.

:stare:

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

Obama Africanus posted:

:stare:

100 AIDS researchers snuffed out with the push of a button. That's a goddamn economic and scientific loss that's impossible to quantify.

Jesus.

:stare:

So we are expecting a positive spin from Fox then?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Courthouse posted:

So we are expecting a positive spin from Fox then?

I'm surprised that they're not slobbering on Putin's knob already.

And those 100+ people on their way to the AIDS conference included some of the heavy hitters in the fundraising side of things so not only did the science side take a hit, but the people who fund the science died too.

gently caress me, what a lovely day.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/07/turkish-protestors-just-took-the-israeli-embassy-raised-palestinian-flag/

Turkish protesters stormed the Israeli embassy, raised the Palestinian flag, and torched the building.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:

http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/07/turkish-protestors-just-took-the-israeli-embassy-raised-palestinian-flag/

Turkish protesters stormed the Israeli embassy, raised the Palestinian flag, and torched the building.

Goddamnit.

Is Russia with the Palestinians? Because if they are, Ukraine + Gaza strip = Not WWIII, but pretty Goddamn close.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Countercurrentnews.com?

Oh well, one good source deserves another
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/17/violent-riots-target-israel-embassy-in-turkey-ihh-head-says-turkish-jews-will-pay-dearly-photos/

quote:

As IDF forces entered Gaza on Thursday night in the latest phase of Israel’s ongoing Operation Protective Edge, violent riots broke out around Turkey threatening the local Jewish community and Israeli institutions. The head of the IHH terror-tied humanitarian NGO behind the infamous Mavi Marmara Flotilla, Bulent Yildirim, told local television station Haber Turk that “Turkish Jews will pay dearly” for Israel’s actions.
...
At the Israeli Consulate in Istanbul and the Israeli Embassy in Ankara crowds of protesters gathered and shouted anti-Israel slogans.

“Fight! Martyrdom!” they were heard saying in Istanbul. Protesters attempted to enter the building where the Consulate is located three times and lit a fire nearby. Haber Turk described the scene as a “battlefield environment” and rioters were seen throwing stones and bottles at police.

In Ankara an Israeli flag was removed by rioters and replaced by Palestinian and Turkish flags. Police were able to push the crowd back at times. Among the rioters were some of the ruling Justice and Development Party’s (AKP) parliament members, according to local reports. After some time, police used tear gas to confront the protesters.
...
Two days ago, local newspaper Yeni Akit, affiliated with Erdogan, called on the country’s Jewish community to apologize for the casualties of Israel’s operation in Gaza. In an open letter to Turkey’s chief rabbi, correspondent Faruk Köse wrote, “You have lived comfortably among us for 500 years and gotten rich at our expense. Is this your gratitude – killing Muslims? Erdogan, demand that the community leader apologize!”

Last week popular singer Yıldız Tilbe tweeted praise for Hitler. “May God bless Hitler” she said. “If God allows, it will again be Muslims who will bring the end of those Jews, it is near, near.”

Turkish Jews condemned Tilbe’s remarks and requested an apology. But the apology never came.

Ankara mayor, Gökçek, who is a senior AKP member, praised the singer’s Gaza tweets. “I applaud you Yıldız Tilbe for the messages you deliver to many of your colleagues and especially to the Turkish nation,” he wrote.

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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

BigDave posted:

Goddamnit.

Is Russia with the Palestinians? Because if they are, Ukraine + Gaza strip = Not WWIII, but pretty Goddamn close.

By proxy, yes, since Syria, Iran, et al, are Russian customers allies. And also Russia doesn't exactly have a storied history of supporting Jewish, well, anything. Of course at the same time, Russia has been combating its own internal problems with an ethnic group in a semi-autonomous region that is known for radical Islamic groups.

psydude fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jul 18, 2014

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