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fiery_valkyrie posted:If I am scum and my information is unreliable, then you can't rule out these 2 options. If you are scum, then those options would involve 3 remaining scum.
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greatZebu posted:The fact that you either didn't notice this or chose to ignore it suggests that you're trying to find someone to pin things on rather than trying to understand posts and figure out the truth. When you assume that a Capps/Keane team is impossible you are doing it based on my information. Am I a scum tracker telling the truth in this instance?
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fiery_valkyrie posted:When you assume that a Capps/Keane team is impossible you are doing it based on my information. Am I a scum tracker telling the truth in this instance? I feel like I must not be explaining myself well. In the scenarios where you're not listed on the scum team, I'm assuming that you're an honest town tracker. Those scenarios all look impossible to me, so I conclude that you must be scum.
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greatZebu posted:I feel like I must not be explaining myself well. In the scenarios where you're not listed on the scum team, I'm assuming that you're an honest town tracker. Those scenarios all look impossible to me, so I conclude that you must be scum. Ok, so lets assume I am scum and there are 2 scum left. Am I lying about tracking last night? Because I'm clearly not lying about N1. If I didn't track last night did I do the roleblock or NK? If I did, then I'm taking a gamble today saying that TT went nowhere last night, since that would be a guess.
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Ok my brain is starting to hurt. I'm going to do something else for a while. Capps is my preference to lynch but I would switch to GZ.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Ok, so lets assume I am scum and there are 2 scum left. Am I lying about tracking last night? Because I'm clearly not lying about N1. This is an interesting point. If you're scum, you must be lying about tracking last night. So either you took a guess on TT and you were right, or the scum team includes a rolecop who investigated TT, or TT's your buddy. I don't know why it's clear that you're not lying about N1, though. fiery_valkyrie posted:Ok my brain is starting to hurt. I'm going to do something else for a while. me too 
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It's not a gamble because I bitched about being bored with no powers
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greatZebu posted:This is an interesting point. If you're scum, you must be lying about tracking last night. So either you took a guess on TT and you were right, or the scum team includes a rolecop who investigated TT, or TT's your buddy. I don't know why it's clear that you're not lying about N1, though. I'm not lying about N1 because I revealed Capps visited Keane before Capps did.
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Letting the Scum kill independently of PR usage might help to balance the game. I do agree with f_v though, the only way for her to be fake claiming tracker is if she is with Capps (in which case we should just lynch Capps). Since we know the other Scum PR is RBer, there is no Scum Rolecop. I suppose f_v could be a JOAT who tracked Capps N1 and rolecopped TT N2 and killed Asiina N3, but that's about the only way I could see f_v being Scum without the Scum kill being usable in addition to PR usage.
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Ardulac posted:Letting the Scum kill independently of PR usage might help to balance the game. Ard got roleblocked two nights in a row, which makes a scum roleblocker, rather than a JOAT more likely.
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you don't need a sixth sense to discern my griping. stupid in retrospect but it's a thing
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Ard got roleblocked two nights in a row, which makes a scum roleblocker, rather than a JOAT more likely.
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Tremendous Taste posted:you don't need a sixth sense to discern my griping. stupid in retrospect but it's a thing Tremendous Taste posted:It's so boring without fun powers
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I read the Calvinball game and Capps was very entertaining in it. As a reward, I will instead support a GZ vote.
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CCKeane posted:I read the Calvinball game and Capps was very entertaining in it. ##vote greatzebu thank you
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mr.capps posted:##vote greatzebu ##vote GreatZebu I may die for this. But I will die...for love...
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What is the zebu case? Process of elimination?
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Opopanax posted:What is the zebu case? Process of elimination? Process of elimination and that Capps is pretty dreamy.
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CCKeane posted:Process of elimination and that Capps is pretty dreamy. He's only dreamy because he's a bad guy. If he was a "nice guy" you wouldn't feel the same way.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:He's only dreamy because he's a bad guy. If he was a "nice guy" you wouldn't feel the same way. DON'T TELL ME WHO TO LOVE
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Side note on fv: if she was town she could be very confident that I'm scum by the same logic I used here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3647507&userid=62487#post432306253 But she's not that confident, she's just expressing some doubts about me and pointing out some posts she thinks are scummy while still pressing for a capps kill. She's trying to discredit me without killing me because if I flip it'll be clear that she's scum. fiery_valkyrie posted:He's only dreamy because he's a bad guy. If he was a "nice guy" you wouldn't feel the same way.  it's a shame you're scum, because this is one of my favorite posts in the thread.
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greatZebu posted:Side note on fv: if she was town she could be very confident that I'm scum by the same logic I used here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3647507&userid=62487#post432306253 I'm not confident because I'm town. Only scum know for sure.
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Jul 18, 2014 23:14
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greatZebu posted:Side note on fv: if she was town she could be very confident that I'm scum by the same logic I used here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3647507&userid=62487#post432306253 You have a point, lad.
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CCKeane posted:You have a point, lad. What's his point? That I think 2 people are scum but I'm only voting for one of them? No kidding. If I had 2 votes I'd be voting GZ as well.
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look im 3rd party guy in my personal opinion fv is the more likely scum but i do want to you know win too so i would go with whoever the town picks that is not me
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Capps, I'm dying. I'm dying here.
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CCKeane posted:Capps, I'm dying. I'm dying here. like i want to win this with town, i think fv is more suspect than zebu because zebu just seems kinda like a stupid new player. i mean killing zebu is fine with me because with fv around that is more night actions for my night action to you know have collusion with but i rather vote fv than zebu
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*inhales sharply* This is really killing me here, but I think I'll bite on this.
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mr.capps posted:like i want to win this with town, i think fv is more suspect than zebu because zebu just seems kinda like a stupid new player. i mean killing zebu is fine with me because with fv around that is more night actions for my night action to you know have collusion with Then why is your vote sitting on zebu?
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Capps I must know. Capps I have sworn myself to you. Capps. Are you scum?
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CCKeane posted:Capps I must know. No, I really am not.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Then why is your vote sitting on zebu? FINE ##vote FV ARE YOU HAPPY NOW ARE YOU HAPPY?
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I think FV being scum makes sense. I really don't think Capps is lying on this one.
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mr.capps posted:FINE No, I am sad. This is a sad day in Mafialand
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FV if I'm wrong, please understand that I did everything I've done for love.
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CCKeane posted:FV if I'm wrong, please understand that I did everything I've done for love. Love of someone who isn't me.... Town has one mislynch left? Just loving kill me and be done with it. When everything I've said is proven true I don't see that scum have anywhere left to hide.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Love of someone who isn't me.... I loved Poque and I shot him in the head with a bus.
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CCKeane posted:I loved Poque and I shot him in the head with a bus. Yeah, your love of Capps is inspiring some stupid play. You vig Poque over Capps and now you want to lynch me over Capps. If I hadn't seen him visit you N1 I would swear you are the scum team together.
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We have me, Ard and FV here. Scum will want to RB me tonight, then kill one of the three. But if two of us survive we will gain info. FV will either catch or clear someone, or Ard will. If FV is scum we'll know soon enough and should still have time to deal with it later. I don't want to kill FV today
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