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EBB
Feb 15, 2005

psydude posted:

And Israel is one of the biggest perpetrators of espionage against the United States, but for some reason we're still biffles with them.

You know what to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfTNRsVGlM

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Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe

psydude posted:

I'd like to think these disagreements are settled by drinking competitions.

This would help explain why China and Russia spy so much, trying to outdrink those fuckers is basically suicide.

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Benagain posted:

This would help explain why China and Russia spy so much, trying to outdrink those fuckers is basically suicide.

By this logic, the greatest spy organization on earth is Australian. OH WAI-

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Obama just had a press conference. Confirmed at least one American, called out russia on all their bullshit, and basically said we're going to drop heavier sanctions and possibly more to enforce a ceasefire.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Mr. Nice! posted:

Obama just had a press conference. Confirmed at least one American, called out russia on all their bullshit, and basically said we're going to drop heavier sanctions and possibly more to enforce a ceasefire.

He's already banned Russian-made AKs. What's next? Those stupid nesting dolls? Stoli?

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Mad Dragon posted:

He's already banned Russian-made AKs. What's next? Those stupid nesting dolls? Stoli?

Mail order brides.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Zeroisanumber posted:

Civilized people understand that spying happens and that it's best handled behind closed doors between embassies.

Is Merkel up for reelection soon?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Now we get to watch ze Germans flop around like a chicken without a head and try to convince everyone behind closed doors that shooting down a civilian airliner doesn't mean that we shouldn't do business with the Russians.

Missionary Positron
Jul 6, 2004
And now for something completely different
I'm also eagerly awaiting how Hollande is going to spin not cancelling the Mistral deal in the coming days.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

gleep gloop posted:

Why again did Germany shut down it's reactors? Oh hey lets completely gently caress over our energy on some retarded principled stand.

Because they elected the Green Party of all goddamn things. You know those dumb motherfuckers who think coal is a better alternative to nuclear.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

It's dumb but you also have to remember that most German voters were alive during the cold war, when Fallout was basically a re-localized version of their expected future. Everyone knew the Russians would nuke everything then the Americans, French and British would nuke them again once Russia made it through. Fear of all things nuclear runs deeper than Japan. It's not rational, but the nuclear symbol is a symbol of doom to many Germans. When I lived there literally the only person I knew who was pro-nuclear was a nuclear physicist. Even his wife wasn't totally convinced. Highly educated people, including engineers, were grateful the local nuclear plant was shut down.

Best Friends fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 18, 2014

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Best Friends posted:

It's dumb but you also have to remember that most German voters were alive during the cold war, when Fallout was basically a re-localized version of their expected future. Everyone knew the Russians would nuke everything then the Americans, French and British would nuke them again once Russia made it through. Fear of all things nuclear runs deeper than Japan. It's not rational, but the nuclear symbol is a symbol of doom to many Germans. When I lived there literally the only person I knew who was pro-nuclear was a nuclear physicist. Even his wife wasn't totally convinced. Highly educated people, including engineers, were grateful the local nuclear plant was shut down.

They deserve Putin. For all the things that happened to Japan in recent years and in their country, they still kept there poo poo together.

Bolow posted:

Because they elected the Green Party of all goddamn things. You know those dumb motherfuckers who think coal is a better alternative to nuclear.

Also the party that if elected during the Cold War would have made Red Dawn plausible.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 18, 2014

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

gfanikf posted:

They deserve Putin. For all the things that happened to Japan in recent years and in their country, they still kept there poo poo together.


Also the party that if elected during the Cold War would have made Red Dawn plausible.

And they had a caucus lobbying for the decriminalization of child rape for about seven years. Grün wirkt!

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Otto Skorzeny posted:

And they had a caucus lobbying for the decriminalization of child rape for about seven years. Grün wirkt!

:gonk:
They...did?

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

gfanikf posted:

:gonk:
They...did?
Der Spiegel had a piece about it a while back.

Wookiepedia summarizes it as

quote:

[From 1980 u]ntil 1987, the Greens comprised a faction involved in pedophile activism, the SchwuP short for Arbeitsgemeinschaft "Schwule, Päderasten und Transsexuelle" (approx. working group "Gays, Pederasts and Transsexuals"). This faction campaigned for repealing § 176 of the German penal code, dealing with child sexual abuse. This group was controversial within the party itself, and was seen as partly responsible for the poor election result of 1985.[6] This controversy re-surfaced in 2013 in the context of the pedophilia activism of Daniel Cohn-Bendit, and chairwoman Claudia Roth stated she welcomed an independent scientific investigation on the extent of influence pedophile activists had on the party in the mid 1980s.[7][8]

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
When you walk into the office of a political party and say, "Hey. I'm a pedophile and I think we should have a working group that examines the best way to remove oppressive child rape laws" how do you not get suplexed to death?

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Zeroisanumber posted:

When you walk into the office of a political party and say, "Hey. I'm a pedophile and I think we should have a working group that examines the best way to remove oppressive child rape laws" how do you not get suplexed to death?

Because Europe as a whole is like the Tumblr of nations.

"Hey don't kinkshame me!"

Edit: To clarify, Tumblr and Eurpoe are both large groups of middle class, lilly white people who talk a big game about social justice and equality provided that the people in question are as white as they are.

ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jul 18, 2014

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Patiently waiting for a mushroom cloud.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/212617-senate-passes-resolution-in-support-of-israel

All 100 senators passed the resolution to support Israel.

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holocaust bloopers posted:

Patiently waiting for a mushroom cloud.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

poo poo you would expect ONE senator to grandstand and get airtime, but no. We're balls deep raw-dogging this poo poo family style, all in.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/palestinians-prepare-for-massive-ground-invasion,36495/

:golfclap:

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT


Not enough children sized ones.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

This one's better.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Reading reports now that militia have blocked off the crash site and kicked out inspectors. The bodies are still out there where they fell, too.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Reading reports now that militia have blocked off the crash site and kicked out inspectors. The bodies are still out there where they fell, too.

Ya. Because they can totally hide what really happened by doing that.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night



An administration that's actively hostile to Israel.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

Whip Slagcheek posted:

An administration that's actively hostile to Israel.

None of those senators are part of the administration.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

No doubt if Obama and Biden were still in the Senate it would be 98-2 because they hate Israel just that much. They hate them so much they've done, uh, I'll get back to you, but trust me it's a lot and incredibly bad. There are even unconfirmed reports than once, in private, Obama said that settlements were bad, sometimes. It's outrageous.

Serendipitaet
Apr 19, 2009

Best Friends posted:

It's dumb but you also have to remember that most German voters were alive during the cold war, when Fallout was basically a re-localized version of their expected future. Everyone knew the Russians would nuke everything then the Americans, French and British would nuke them again once Russia made it through. Fear of all things nuclear runs deeper than Japan. It's not rational, but the nuclear symbol is a symbol of doom to many Germans. When I lived there literally the only person I knew who was pro-nuclear was a nuclear physicist. Even his wife wasn't totally convinced. Highly educated people, including engineers, were grateful the local nuclear plant was shut down.

Everybody in Germany is anti-nuclear to a ridiculous degree. Young people today are literally sabotaging railroad tracks in concerted efforts to prevent or delay transports of nuclear waste, organized and supported by organizations such as Greenpeace. In a country half the size of texas, people consider lignite a better choice than nuclear. Ironically, this leads to landscapes looking like this:



It is beyond retarded and shameful.

The same applies to the "NSA spying scandal" as it is usually named. I have university educated friends who watch Russia Today, say that "many of the Maidan protestors are actually nazis!" - another of those modern German bogeymen and feel that Russia annexing crimea is actually "a complicated issue".

This loving idiot generation is squandering what their grandparents (if they were lucky enough to survive the war/avoid living in a socialist hellhole with a literal loving wall around it) built in decades of hard work by putting their idiotic "green" fantasies over realpolitik.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:

poo poo you would expect ONE senator to grandstand and get airtime, but no. We're balls deep raw-dogging this poo poo family style, all in.

Paging Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz to the floor, please.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Post your favorite increasingly hyperbolic D&D excuses here

Best Friends posted:

No doubt if Obama and Biden were still in the Senate it would be 98-2 because they hate Israel just that much. They hate them so much they've done, uh, I'll get back to you, but trust me it's a lot and incredibly bad. There are even unconfirmed reports than once, in private, Obama said that settlements were bad, sometimes. It's outrageous.

Can't wait to watch this get thrown in Warren's face on her way to the Dem nomination, tbqh

Oh, and the entire last round of 'peace negotiations' even Abu Mazen didn't want to sham through, the prisoner releases demanded for those talks, dropping of Iran sanctions (don't worry, they'll agree to give up their nuke programme any day now), letting the UN Pally non-member state thing go through, etc etc, just off top of head

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Mortabis posted:

None of those senators are part of the administration.

Yeah because I'm sure the Senate democrats acted totally without input from the White House/Harry Reid before casting their blanket yes vote. You're being obtuse.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001
The chimp in chief may not be down with yarmulkes instead of his proffered fez, but he's gotta grind out that Yiddish wedding song on his organ because Joe Freedom Lover loves Israel.

The 13th amendment may have landed his rear end in office, but it doesn't make him any less chained up and told what to do by right thinking white folk.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Snowdens Secret posted:


Oh, and the entire last round of 'peace negotiations' even Abu Mazen didn't want to sham through, the prisoner releases demanded for those talks, dropping of Iran sanctions (don't worry, they'll agree to give up their nuke programme any day now), letting the UN Pally non-member state thing go through, etc etc, just off top of head

Whoa, he didn't do 100% of what Israel wanted on all things regardless of what America's interests were? That sounds incredibly hostile.

I remember when we were having a trade dispute with Canada over timber and apples. Fortunately, raging anti-Canadaite Bill Clinton left office. Perhaps someday our relations will recover, but until then I sympathize completely with all the times Canada has taken billions of US dollars for nothing then hosed us over.

Hauldren Collider
Dec 31, 2012

Obama Africanus posted:

I get to be Russia, I'm going to launch first and give not a single gently caress about defense of so called russian "cities"

I will proudly glass cities on every continent.

Europe is the best in Defcon though, only 1 ocean to defend

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Yeah because I'm sure the Senate democrats acted totally without input from the White House/Harry Reid before casting their blanket yes vote. You're being obtuse.

Lets not pretend this White House has ever had any pull with the Senate

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Best Friends posted:

Whoa, he didn't do 100% of what Israel wanted on all things regardless of what America's interests were? That sounds incredibly hostile.

I remember when we were having a trade dispute with Canada over timber and apples. Fortunately, raging anti-Canadaite Bill Clinton left office. Perhaps someday our relations will recover, but until then I sympathize completely with all the times Canada has taken billions of US dollars for nothing then hosed us over.

Good thing none of those things were in US interests + drew considerable man-hours (well, Kerry hours) and effort away from things that were; for instance, this Ukraine thing

go3 posted:

Lets not pretend this White House has ever had any pull with the Senate

More or less, and this was purely symbolic, any pull being spent is going towards increasing the wiggle language in the foreign funding bill, to keep the money to the PA flowing despite Abbas openly allying with Hamas. This vote involved as little political risk (even for Warren, really) as those Senate votes to congratulate World Series champs and poo poo that always went 99-1

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Snowdens Secret posted:



More or less, and this was purely symbolic, any pull being spent is going towards increasing the wiggle language in the foreign funding bill, to keep the money to the PA flowing despite Abbas openly allying with Hamas. This vote involved as little political risk (even for Warren, really) as those Senate votes to congratulate World Series champs and poo poo that always went 99-1

They only supported Israel to hurt Israel more? Man, these guys are devious.

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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Fortunately somehow plucky little Israel survives, with nothing but billions of dollars of free money to spend on U.S. weapons, massive cooperation with the DoD despite their frequent espionage against the DoD, and the United States vetoing pretty much every single thing directed against them despite Israel doing whatever they want all the time regardless of what we do or say.

I just hope the United States decides to maybe support Israel for once.

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