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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




nescience posted:

doh.

What would the be server equivalent edition to Win7? 2008 R2?

Windows 7 and 2008 R2 have the same kernel version (6.7.7601).

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FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
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XP = 2003
Vista = 2008
7 = 2008 R2
8 = 2012
8.1 = 2012 R2

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Thalagyrt posted:

Why not spin up a few VMs and play around with it in a lab environment to get a feel for it? AD CS isn't really that scary. There are definitely some best practices for doing it securely, though. It's recommended that your production root CA be offline and only be used to sign intermediate CAs, which you run online and then use to sign end user certificates.

Yeah, this is what I'll end up doing in the long run, I've just got a hundred other things on my plate .. I figured I could knock this out with a trusted cert from a known CA :)

Demie
Apr 2, 2004

Dr. Video Games 0089 posted:

My office is trying to implement a new server. They contacted a local IT company and they provided us a quote for buying hardware, software, and installation. The boss isn't too technology focused and I'm only a little better at it than he is.

It's worth it if they're really accountable for their work, or if it's a consultant that you know is good. If not, scrap it. There's dozens of ways you could gently caress up an enterprise windows install, and I've worked with enough newbie consultants to know. The software stuff is what's really important.

If it was me, I'd just hire a known good consultant to set up your OS / AD and buy whatever they tell you to buy.

Spazz
Nov 17, 2005

Here's a really weird situation, and I'll do my best to convey it via text. SP2010, unknown functional level -- I'll have that soon.

User logs in to their PC using their normal domain account 'jdoe'. User opens up IE and goes to sharepoint site. In this site, they have site collection admin privileges.

User chooses to 'Sign in as a different user' and logs in as 'jtest', which is a read-only account. In the top-right corner it correctly shows this account, however, any actions they perform are at the permission level of the 'jdoe' account. So they can delete, add, edit all documents.

If they log off the PC and log in a 'jtest', then go to the SP site as 'jtest', they have the correct read-only permissions level. If they log in as 'jdoe' while 'jtest' is logged in on the PC, they stay at the read-only permission level.


Any ideas? Their IT guy said it might be because they sync AD with SP since they intend on using the site with things other than our product.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

IE passes login rights through to sharepoint. I bet if he tried that with firefox it would just work.

Spazz
Nov 17, 2005

GreenNight posted:

IE passes login rights through to sharepoint. I bet if he tried that with firefox it would just work.

That's what I was thinking as well, unfortunately FF/Chrome is not an option. Neither of them play very nicely with Sharepoint and our application that's built on it. I'm just trying to see what we can change to remove this behavior.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

What kind of authentication are you using? NTLM or Kerberos?

Spazz
Nov 17, 2005

Jeoh posted:

What kind of authentication are you using? NTLM or Kerberos?

Fairly certain it's NTLM. VPN requests were given a strong "No," so I'll have to wait until Monday to confirm.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Let's talk about DFS for high-availability of a network share.

Just how chatty is Windows in a DFS environment? I'd like to tune for a sub-30 second failover. I gather that means that machines will be querying for namespace referrals every 30 seconds.

My target site would be, let's say 30 desktops, 7 DFS shared folders in total. Network is gigabit and generally not terribly congested at the moment. Is there any way to estimate the additional network traffic that I'll throw on the lan before I start cranking the cache duration down to 30 seconds?

I guess theoretically I could just do it and see, but I typically dislike that approach :(

Macintyre
May 6, 2006
Slow Rider
We are finally getting rid of our old Microsoft TMG2010 server in my office. However one thing that it did do was decently monitor what Active Directory user accounts were going to which websites, taking metrics on web traffic, etc.

Anyone have a recommended solution for a replacement of those features?

-Must show web history based on AD accounts
-Must give basic website traffic info, which sites are being hit, how much % of time, etc.

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?
We ran into a weird one last week that we're still fighting with.
Server 2012 Hyper-V box. Has a single guest, a server 2008 VM that was created from a physical install via disk2vhd. Everything works great except the networking.
Host can get out to the internet, talks to everything just fine.
Guest can be connected to, but cannot talk out. It has proper network info, can ping other internal devices and the gateway with no problem, but can't get out. DNS (internal DNS server) resolves fine as well. It just never gets past the gateway.
It's on a virtual switch configured as external along with the host, has the correct virtualized drivers to share the host nic, etc.
Anyone ever seen anything like this?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Martytoof posted:

Let's talk about DFS for high-availability of a network share.

Just how chatty is Windows in a DFS environment? I'd like to tune for a sub-30 second failover. I gather that means that machines will be querying for namespace referrals every 30 seconds.

My target site would be, let's say 30 desktops, 7 DFS shared folders in total. Network is gigabit and generally not terribly congested at the moment. Is there any way to estimate the additional network traffic that I'll throw on the lan before I start cranking the cache duration down to 30 seconds?

I guess theoretically I could just do it and see, but I typically dislike that approach :(

Trying to understand what part of DFS you're looking at network traffic for, the namespace queries alone or DFSR? DFSR is pretty efficient and replicates changed blocks, and you can set schedules and throttles on each replication group. Namespace queries are all done via the nearest domain controller using AD site cost, there's a whole referral ordering system in the namespace too.

I'm the DFS/file server admin here so I'm definitely interested in helping you and taking a look at this!

Zaepho
Oct 31, 2013

Silly Newbie posted:

We ran into a weird one last week that we're still fighting with.
Server 2012 Hyper-V box. Has a single guest, a server 2008 VM that was created from a physical install via disk2vhd. Everything works great except the networking.
Host can get out to the internet, talks to everything just fine.
Guest can be connected to, but cannot talk out. It has proper network info, can ping other internal devices and the gateway with no problem, but can't get out. DNS (internal DNS server) resolves fine as well. It just never gets past the gateway.
It's on a virtual switch configured as external along with the host, has the correct virtualized drivers to share the host nic, etc.
Anyone ever seen anything like this?

This is an incredibly bad one, but is the Subnet mask set correctly? it really seems like you're getting traffic out (and I would guess even out beyond your local subnet) but not receiving it back when you go outside your local subnet.

Check your overall IP settings on the box just to make sure it all lines up properly. You can also look at the Routing Table (route print) to see if everything looks good there.

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?

Zaepho posted:

This is an incredibly bad one, but is the Subnet mask set correctly? it really seems like you're getting traffic out (and I would guess even out beyond your local subnet) but not receiving it back when you go outside your local subnet.

Check your overall IP settings on the box just to make sure it all lines up properly. You can also look at the Routing Table (route print) to see if everything looks good there.

The subnet mask is correct. We did previously have an issue with multiple static routes showing up, so we blew out the route to the gateway and recreated it. It shows fine now, but still will not ping out or tracert to, for example, 8.8.8.8. This site runs a Cisco ASA, and I can see the traffic move through the gateway, but nothing ever comes back.
We also have another site connected to this one via an ipsec vpn tunnel. Thin clients and computers at that site can RDP into this server and pass traffic to/from it with no problem at all over the tunnel.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

CLAM DOWN posted:

Trying to understand what part of DFS you're looking at network traffic for, the namespace queries alone or DFSR? DFSR is pretty efficient and replicates changed blocks, and you can set schedules and throttles on each replication group. Namespace queries are all done via the nearest domain controller using AD site cost, there's a whole referral ordering system in the namespace too.

I'm the DFS/file server admin here so I'm definitely interested in helping you and taking a look at this!

I think it's the namespace queries. Basically in my lab tests I was successfully able to bring up two file servers, create a \\mydomain.blah\shares\testshare, edit testfile.txt in that folder, bring the active DFS server down, then edit and save testfile.txt after it fails over to the second. My problem is that this failover took a good minute or so. I'd love to tune this down to sub-minute recovery, and everything I hear is that this will basically increase the namespace requests going out to the network from clients. I don't really know if it's significant or not for the number of clients I'm working with :)

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Martytoof posted:

I think it's the namespace queries. Basically in my lab tests I was successfully able to bring up two file servers, create a \\mydomain.blah\shares\testshare, edit testfile.txt in that folder, bring the active DFS server down, then edit and save testfile.txt after it fails over to the second. My problem is that this failover took a good minute or so. I'd love to tune this down to sub-minute recovery, and everything I hear is that this will basically increase the namespace requests going out to the network from clients. I don't really know if it's significant or not for the number of clients I'm working with :)

It will, but you want to make sure you have the namespace set to "Optimize for scalability" which means it will always poll the nearest DC rather than the PDC. I'm guessing you may have it set to "Optimize for consistency" which is the default. Once it's set to poll the nearest DC I don't think that should be a problem, having increase traffic, assuming you have a domain controller in each site. I haven't tried before what you're trying to do though, getting that interval down super low, I think I have it set to 5 minutes right now.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

So does anyone have much experience with WQL queries for SCCM? Trying to build device collections based on AD OU's. Here is my query:
select SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceType,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Name,SMS_R_SYSTEM.SMSUniqueIdentifier,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceDomainORWorkgroup,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Client from SMS_R_System where SMS_R_System.SystemOUName = "XXX.LOCAL/XXX/ACCOUNTING/ACCOUNTING COMPUTERS"

Which kind of works. There are 18 computers in that AD group and this query gets 14 of them.

Zaepho
Oct 31, 2013

BaseballPCHiker posted:

So does anyone have much experience with WQL queries for SCCM? Trying to build device collections based on AD OU's. Here is my query:
select SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceType,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Name,SMS_R_SYSTEM.SMSUniqueIdentifier,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceDomainORWorkgroup,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Client from SMS_R_System where SMS_R_System.SystemOUName = "XXX.LOCAL/XXX/ACCOUNTING/ACCOUNTING COMPUTERS"

Which kind of works. There are 18 computers in that AD group and this query gets 14 of them.

Check the other machines and see what they have for OU in resource explorer. Its possible they're missing or inaccurate.

Also check your limiting collection to verify you're not inadvertently limiting them out of the possible devices for the collection,

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Zaepho posted:

Check the other machines and see what they have for OU in resource explorer. Its possible they're missing or inaccurate.

Also check your limiting collection to verify you're not inadvertently limiting them out of the possible devices for the collection,

It was indeed the limiting collection. Thanks for the tip. Reminds me that I still have a ton of work to do in cleaning out our AD site. Unfortunately legal wants me to put in a ticket for each individual system that I need to remove from AD. Ugh, lots of work ahead for me.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

BaseballPCHiker posted:

Unfortunately legal wants me to put in a ticket for each individual system that I need to remove from AD. Ugh, lots of work ahead for me.

Dear lord, I cleaned up over 2000 old computer accounts here not too long ago. Good thing I didn't have to check with anyone.

Zaepho
Oct 31, 2013

BaseballPCHiker posted:

It was indeed the limiting collection. Thanks for the tip. Reminds me that I still have a ton of work to do in cleaning out our AD site. Unfortunately legal wants me to put in a ticket for each individual system that I need to remove from AD. Ugh, lots of work ahead for me.

Work with them to develop an operational process whereby a system does it automatically.

Typically in enterprise environments I see something along the lines of if a computer does not login or change it's password in 60-90 days, it is disabled and moved to a DisabledComputers UO. 30-90 days later it is then removed from active directory.

If you could convince them to turn this into a standard policy you would have carte blanch to enforce it daily via automation without Change Control, or individual approvals or anything crazy like that.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

We are not allowed to ever delete a user account from AD. Yes, it sucks.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

skipdogg posted:

We are not allowed to ever delete a user account from AD. Yes, it sucks.

What the gently caress? Do you have an OU titled "old employees" with thousands of user accounts?

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

GreenNight posted:

What the gently caress? Do you have an OU titled "old employees" with thousands of user accounts?

Pretty much, each geographic OU has a OU with disabled accounts in it.

code:
(Get-ADUser -f {enabled -eq $false}).count

12364

(Get-ADUser -f {enabled -eq $true}).count

3823

The reasoning I've heard is our Oracle employee info system cannot have a duplicate username or employee ID in it, so we just keep all AD user accounts ever created forever and ever and ever.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Zaepho posted:

Work with them to develop an operational process whereby a system does it automatically.

Typically in enterprise environments I see something along the lines of if a computer does not login or change it's password in 60-90 days, it is disabled and moved to a DisabledComputers UO. 30-90 days later it is then removed from active directory.

If you could convince them to turn this into a standard policy you would have carte blanch to enforce it daily via automation without Change Control, or individual approvals or anything crazy like that.

Yeah I've got a powershell script that will give me a list of all computers that haven't logged onto the network in the last 60 days. Which I then gave to them, they still seem super paranoid about me making any changes. I'll try to talk them into letting me at least disable all of them and move them into a separate OU.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

AD Info is a pretty good free tool too. Gives a ton of reports, GUI based which can be exported.

Zaepho
Oct 31, 2013

BaseballPCHiker posted:

Yeah I've got a powershell script that will give me a list of all computers that haven't logged onto the network in the last 60 days. Which I then gave to them, they still seem super paranoid about me making any changes. I'll try to talk them into letting me at least disable all of them and move them into a separate OU.

Try to make them understand that Active accounts that are unused are a risk from a security and audit perspective. The audit/regulatory perspective is usually the best route to go.

I think most of the regulatory frameworks have some controls around proper onboarding and offboarding of both user and computer accounts.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?
Fantastic, this talk about Airwatch and MaaS360 is just what I'm looking for; though between them which is the most absolute simplest to remotely attach new phones to? Because the company I work for already has ALL of its phones in the wild (95% iPhones, the only control I have is setting up iCloud and Location services with setting the device name on new phones we get in), and the chances of me getting them back in house is almost nil.

MaaS360 looked neat in the sense that you can E-mail out a form for enrolling the phone, but I pretty much need something that a 5 year old could understand and not get scared of or gently caress up.

Additionally the MD wants some functionality to track/record phone calls from the devices. NSA eat your heart out, but are there actually apps or services which can easily pull this off?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


MaaS360 can email out a URL that just straight up enrols the device if you want (the end user will still have to accept the enrolment). I think it can do it via SMS message as well if email isn't setup on the things.

I'd assume pretty much every other MDM can do the same. They are all identical in terms of features to a point because they all rely on the API hooks in the underlying OS. Some MDM systems will advertise extra features which comes from the installation of an agent app, but there is no real way to ensure that app is installed, other than by threatening to remote wipe the device unless the app is installed.

It's a growing market though, so expect iOS in particular to keep adding new features that actually make it manageable in each release.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

BaseballPCHiker posted:

Yeah I've got a powershell script that will give me a list of all computers that haven't logged onto the network in the last 60 days. Which I then gave to them, they still seem super paranoid about me making any changes. I'll try to talk them into letting me at least disable all of them and move them into a separate OU.

When I started here I couldn't even do that, Windows 2000 functional level...

I ended up using something called "ADTidy" (pretty much just a GUI for powershell scripts) to search for old rear end computer accounts, then disable/move them in bulk.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

GPO question here. I'm creating a GPO to push out an ODBC connection. The ODBC connection is auto put in ODBC x64 and not x32. How do I specify that I want it in both? I don't see any setting for x32 ODBC in Group Policy.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

GreenNight posted:

GPO question here. I'm creating a GPO to push out an ODBC connection. The ODBC connection is auto put in ODBC x64 and not x32. How do I specify that I want it in both? I don't see any setting for x32 ODBC in Group Policy.

Never had to do this before, but it looks like it is just a registry push.

http://www.explodingbraincells.com/2012/04/16/32-bit-odbc-system-dsn-on-64-bit-windows-using-group-policy-client-preferences/

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




What is the MS best practice for share permissions on file servers? Domain Users (or similar) with read/write or full control, then restrict with NTFS permissions? I can't find it written anywhere or any kind of technet reference.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

CLAM DOWN posted:

What is the MS best practice for share permissions on file servers? Domain Users (or similar) with read/write or full control, then restrict with NTFS permissions? I can't find it written anywhere or any kind of technet reference.

I have always done read/write for everyone, then lock it down with NTFS permissions by security groups.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Moey posted:

I have always done read/write for everyone, then lock it down with NTFS permissions by security groups.

I want to avoid "Everyone" because well that's a generally bad idea security-wise, so I was just gonna use Domain Users or even Authenticated Users for read/write. I was just hoping to find an official or semi-official reference for this so my manager can see written proof and approve it for me to implement :(

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
Everyone on Shares isn't a problem. Lock your poo poo down with NTFS permissions within that share and you'll be fine. Doubly so with Access Based Enumeration.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

So, I'm switching people over from Office 2003 to 2013 (365) through SCCM and there's a problem with the file association, prompting users for choosing which program to use when they open an Office file. This happened in my test workstation, and I'm wondering if there's some script I can deploy that changes the file associations to a set executable, or which registry I should be looking at. My Google-Fu seems to be failing me since every registry change / command I've seen in Google ended up not working. Thanks a lot in advance.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

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I haven't mucked around with Office Installers in a while, but is there an option in there to set the new Office as the default for opening files?

setup.exe /admin is your friend. You are installing using a custom .msp file, right? Right?

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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Gyshall posted:

Everyone on Shares isn't a problem. Lock your poo poo down with NTFS permissions within that share and you'll be fine. Doubly so with Access Based Enumeration.

I use Authenticated Users on the shares so people have to have a valid domain account and then apply the permissions on NTFS directly.

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