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krispykremessuck posted:well rick perry or kyle petty or whoever is the governor of texas mobilized the txng to the border apparently so we're not out of this bucket of syrup yet His 2016 presidential run is a real reason.
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Mustang posted:The world sure is going to poo poo this year, glad I was born in America. Wonder how crazy 2015 is going to be? We'll finally have hoverboards and novelty 80s diners.
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I don't think the current influx of kids crossing the border is really worth mobilizing 1000 guardsmen. Now if there'd been a really steep uptick in cartel bullshit that would be something else, but this smacks of just being another part of his pathetic attempt to rebrand himself.
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Casimir Radon posted:I don't think the current influx of kids crossing the border is really worth mobilizing 1000 guardsmen. Now if there'd been a really steep uptick in cartel bullshit that would be something else, but this smacks of just being another part of his pathetic attempt to rebrand himself. Theres like tens of thousands of unescorted kids crossing the border next to drug smugglers and other human traffickers. Surely you can see why this is bad and something to get a handle on. Political grandstanding aside.
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Jul 24, 2014 06:04
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:Theres like tens of thousands of unescorted kids crossing the border next to drug smugglers and other human traffickers. Surely you can see why this is bad and something to get a handle on. Political grandstanding aside.
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Casimir Radon posted:Except the guardsmen aren't actually allowed to do anything, so it's just going to be a much more expensive repeat of that Minuteman nonsense. What do you mean? I figured they'd be watching the border and intercepting people who came across? They'd have the legal authority to do that unlike the civvies.
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:What do you mean? I figured they'd be watching the border and intercepting people who came across? They'd have the legal authority to do that unlike the civvies.  RIP James Garner
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Jul 24, 2014 06:28
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:What do you mean? I figured they'd be watching the border and intercepting people who came across? They'd have the legal authority to do that unlike the civvies. They aren't the Border Patrol or USCIS. They can wave at the illegals and give them some water bottles, but that's about it.
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:What do you mean? I figured they'd be watching the border and intercepting people who came across? They'd have the legal authority to do that unlike the civvies. Except they wouldn't, they'd need to contact local authorities or Border Patrol to actually detain someone. TXNG could only be working in a non-law enforcement capacity observing the border for signs of illegal entry, for whatever its worth. But yes I agree its something that needs to be curtailed, we can't continue to allow our border to be a revolving door where people can just enter at will. The solution part to that, however, is tricky. You could continue to ramp up spending on Border Patrol Agents, air/water assets, and detention facilities but there's always going to be people seeking entry into the United States as long as we're a functioning nation that's safer than where they're coming from. Whip Slagcheek fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Except they wouldn't, they'd need to contact local authorities or Border Patrol to actually detain someone. TXNG could only be working in a non-law enforcement capacity observing the border for signs of illegal entry, for whatever its worth. Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I guess having the extra eyes to spot kids coming across could help 
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Casimir Radon posted:Posse Comitatus Posse comitatus doesn't extend to the National Guard when it's called up at the request of a state governor. They can operate as an extension of law enforcement, and indeed, the national guard has been involved in drug interdiction in New Mexico and Arizona in the past. This differs from the federal reserve forces, which require an act of congress to be mobilized in a non-training capacity on US soil (see: LA riots, Katrina, and the Insurrection Act). psydude fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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psydude posted:Posse comitatus doesn't extend to the National Guard when it's called up at the request of a state governor. They can effectively operate as law enforcement, and indeed, the national guard has been involved in drug interdiction in New Mexico and Arizona in the past. This differs from the federal reserve forces, which require an act of congress to be mobilized in a non-training capacity on US soil (see: LA riots, Katrina, and the Insurrection Act).
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psydude posted:Posse comitatus doesn't extend to the National Guard when it's called up at the request of a state governor. They can operate as an extension of law enforcement, and indeed, the national guard has been involved in drug interdiction in New Mexico and Arizona in the past. This differs from the federal reserve forces, which require an act of congress to be mobilized in a non-training capacity on US soil (see: LA riots, Katrina, and the Insurrection Act). They can only act as an extension of law enforcement 1: at the authority of the governor, which they've been granted 2: they can only enforce that state's laws. The border is federal jurisdiction and as such the National Guard cannot stop and detain any of these individuals unless they're violating a relevant state law (smuggling drugs, carrying weapons, etc). Second, these guardsmen are being deployed with Texas DPS troopers who can also only enforce state law. A convoy of illegals can cross the border right in front of them, keep on trucking right by them, and the TXNG would have exactly zero authority to stop them provided they weren't violating a state law. I'm sure Border Patrol will be nearby, but yea they're not anywhere near as effective as they sound. Its 100% a political stick in the eye at the administration. Ted Cruz and Rick Perry are stumping to have this changed, but yeah that's not happening.  lol Whip Slagcheek fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Except they wouldn't, they'd need to contact local authorities or Border Patrol to actually detain someone. TXNG could only be working in a non-law enforcement capacity observing the border for signs of illegal entry, for whatever its worth. Or we could just uhhh you know give them a more easy legal way to get into the country. Nah gently caress those browns.
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ded posted:Or we could just uhhh you know give them a more easy legal way to get into the country. That would be why I said its a tricky situation. I said you COULD do those things, but they probably won't fix anything. It would need to be a combination of things that the current government doesn't have the stomach or motivation to work towards.
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ded posted:Or we could just uhhh you know give them a more easy legal way to get into the country. Listen up, you dirty hippie. This is ARE COUNTRY, not no immigrant haven. If the FOUNDING FATHERS wanted non-whites in 'Merica, they would've shipped some in themselves!
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Carteret posted:Listen up, you dirty hippie. This is ARE COUNTRY, not no immigrant haven. If the FOUNDING FATHERS wanted non-whites in 'Merica, they would've shipped some in themselves! So true. Next thing you know those dirty Irish will want to come too.
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Carteret posted:Listen up, you dirty hippie. This is ARE COUNTRY, not no immigrant haven. If the FOUNDING FATHERS wanted non-whites in 'Merica, they would've shipped some in themselves! For every one idiot who talks like that theres 50 of them online who pretend to to avoid having to say anything relevant or construct an argument.
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:For every one idiot who talks like that theres 50 of them online who pretend to to avoid having to say anything relevant or construct an argument.
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Casimir Radon posted:In this case they aren't actually allowed to do anything. They're going to be sitting on their hands the whole time. The kids aren't even trying to evade the border patrol, they're surrendering to them in hopes of being allowed to stay.  You guys think Texas gives a poo poo about the law on something like this? I'll be half-surprised if they're not shooting.
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ded posted:So true. Next thing you know those dirty Irish will want to come too. Alright, we'll give some land to the niggers and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Does anyone else get the heebie jeebies when non-crazy people drop the N-word in public? Like, you expect me to just be dropping niggers like I was FEMA, but when rational well spoken people say it.. It just starts feeling, ugh.. I dunno, dirtier, that way. Not bad, I mean go nuts- I'm 100% pro use of the word. But I gotta say- as a racist crazy person, it makes me a little uncomfortable when the bumpers on this bowling lane I call life start saying friend of the family too.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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iyaayas01 posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Obama Africanus posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Jesus whip, do you got to beat people up while we have you on camera? 
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iyaayas01 posted:Alright, we'll give some land to the niggers and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish! I hope to gently caress this probation wasn't simply because Whip can't recognize the genius of Mel Brooks.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I hope to gently caress this probation wasn't simply because Whip can't recognize the genius of Mel Brooks. 
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It's the only pig I could find. Trying to get on whip's case about
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orange juche posted:It's the only pig I could find. Ah. That makes sense.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I hope to gently caress this probation wasn't simply because Whip can't recognize the genius of Mel Brooks. Welp. Ah well. Collateral damage, you know?
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Genocide Tendency posted:I hope to gently caress this probation wasn't simply because Whip can't recognize the genius of Mel Brooks. He's too busy focusing on advertising his side business. 
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/israel-palestinians-given-ample-time-to-evacuate-t,36527 Well played, Onion.
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National Guard got deployed because someone lit up Border Patrol with a .50 cal from the Mexico side the other day. The article I saw was sloppily written so it wasn't clear if they were talking potshots with a Barrett or a straight up Ma Deuce. Apparently it was suppressing fire, when BP came out of cover they found a whole mess of people manifested on the US side ready to surrender and be shipped north. E: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/20/cartels-suspected-as-high-caliber-gunfire-sends-border-patrol-scrambling-on-rio/ Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 24, 2014 14:06
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Perry is essentially pulling a dumbassed Sheriff Joe stunt at the state level. 
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Snowdens Secret posted:National Guard got deployed because someone lit up Border Patrol with a .50 cal from the Mexico side the other day. The article I saw was sloppily written so it wasn't clear if they were talking potshots with a Barrett or a straight up Ma Deuce. Apparently it was suppressing fire, when BP came out of cover they found a whole mess of people manifested on the US side ready to surrender and be shipped north. So mobilizing the ARNG in a state capacity with no weapons or ammunition is going to do what? It's a dumb political stunt.
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I'm glad we've been able to solve the mystery of the Texas National Guard deployment thanks to an exclusive piece from the venerable Fox News.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Welp. Ah well. Collateral damage, you know? t  gently caress the police.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I hope to gently caress this probation wasn't simply because Whip can't recognize the genius of Mel Brooks. Seriously who hasn't seen at least one Mel Brooks film?
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ISIS In Mosul has issued a decree saying all the women need to get a labia trimming.  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28466434#TWEET1192582
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ISIS in bed with the cosmetic surgeons lobby? News at eleven!
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