|
Is it possible to fix the Iraqi army? Why do the insurgents always seem so driven where the iraqi army always seems like they don't give a gently caress
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:06 |
|
|
# ? Mar 28, 2024 16:14 |
|
ArbitraryTA posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html i still appreciate the sons of solomon bringing the sword to a bunch of filthy muzzies
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:08 |
|
Reverand maynard posted:Is it possible to fix the Iraqi army? Why do the insurgents always seem so driven where the iraqi army always seems like they don't give a gently caress because the insurgents are driven by ideology and the army dudes just want a paycheck since they can't get any other work.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:09 |
|
Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:i still appreciate the sons of solomon bringing the sword to a bunch of filthy muzzies Have we gotten a final verdict from the Sanhedrin as to the exchange rate on Mohammedans versus weedy-looking torah students?
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:15 |
|
ArbitraryTA posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html Haha if you think this changes a loving thing you're out of your goddamn mind
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:15 |
|
ded posted:because the insurgents are driven by ideology and the army dudes just want a paycheck since they can't get any other work. Spot on. Most of the Iraqi Army likely joined just to get enough money to feed themselves and their families. They probably didn't give two shits about the politicians in Baghdad, and even less about Iraqis in other parts of the country. ISIS on the other hand is using every cent they steal to provide basic needs that the Iraqi government can't or won't. This gets the average man on the street to support them, at least for now. ISIS's ideology is both its strength and weakness. It will use it to drive like minded people to join the cause, however average Iraqis who don't want to live under Sharia will only put up with it for so long. Of course these people are used to having thugs putting the boots to them medium style, so they may just roll over and take it.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:21 |
|
ArbitraryTA posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html This is going to make about as much of a difference in public opinion as the revelation that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:28 |
|
In Israel news, Kerry keeps offering Hamas more and more. You'd think they were winning or something. It's worth reading to get an idea of the shitshow over there:quote:On the Palestinian side, this provision is interpreted as also meaning that Israel’s activities to find and destroy Hamas’s cross-border tunnels would also immediately be halted. Israel has reportedly pushed for terms that would enable it to continue tackling the Hamas tunnels after a halt to hostilities. There is no likelihood of the Israeli cabinet voting for a ceasefire deal that does not ensure that the tunnels are destroyed, Israel’s Channel 2 reported on Friday evening. Couple points: - There is no reason to offer Hamas jack and poo poo, let alone a real ceasefire before they issue ridiculous demands - Several of those demands are against Egypt, not Israel - That 'Hamas leadership in Qatar' is the Muslim Brotherhood, who the Egyptians are essentially at war with right now - As the bolded part (emphasis mine) indicates, Hamas is just going to make up their own terms and announce them regardless of what gets formally agreed on anyway If you're wondering why the tunnels are such a big deal, it's because apparently Hamas had its own invasion of Israel planned for high holidays: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/07/hamass-big-plan-disrupted.php [TRIGGER WARNING: conservative website, I'm stealing their quote] quote:Leaks have begun to trickle out on what Israeli interogators are learning from captured Hamas fighters. One plot in particular is getting overwhelming attention. poo poo sounds like some sort of abduction & panic attack straight out of X-COM For an idea of the absurd scale of the tunnel network: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/180007/concrete-facts-about-hamas quote:Israeli troops entering Gaza last week have so far uncovered 18 tunnels used by Hamas to send armed terrorists into Israel and built using an estimated 800,000 tons of concrete.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:31 |
|
I thought this wasn't going to be an I/P thread anymore
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:38 |
|
Meanwhile (why not) we're loving the Kurds:quote:IRBIL, Iraq — Each day, Kurdish security forces in northern Iraq skirmish with fearsomely armed Islamic State militants along their new, nearly 650-mile border. The Kurds have held their own so far. But without new arms supplies or financial assistance, their fight is unsustainable, a senior Kurdish official said. Masrour Barzani, the Kurdistan Regional Government’s intelligence and security chief, described his forces as “overstretched.” In an interview this week, he called on the United States to provide direct military assistance to his semiautonomous region, which he said has been left to fight the extremists unaided. Seeing as we've more or less publicly acknowledged Maliki is a nutjob who on the best day is under the thumb of Iran and on the worst is just a totally self-interested sectarian dictator, telling the Kurds they have to go through him is a fuckjob. Where's our State Department higher-ups on this?
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:39 |
|
krispykremessuck posted:I thought this wasn't going to be an I/P thread anymore I think the difference is that there's actually current events stuff to discuss, rather than a "glass it all" Clancy-jerk.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 06:59 |
|
krispykremessuck posted:I thought this wasn't going to be an I/P thread anymore Here is a coast guard model helo complete with GI JOE figurines made into a ceiling fan to placate your needs about news other than I/P
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 07:05 |
|
In other news ISIS has started a new dating website called JIhadMingle, making sure its fighters can find matches in the newly pacified areas. Nuke israel.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 07:26 |
|
Someone explain an end state to me in which we give no fucks about Israel or Palestine. Besides the one where I get to stop listening to arm chair generals and autists talking past each other.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 13:46 |
|
ArbitraryTA posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html I agree, this meticulously researched HuffPo/Buzzfeed/Breitbart article is the last straw that will turn the tide of world opinion once and for all, mixed metaphors be damned. This 200 word blog post, which consists entirely of hyperlinks, quotes of real journalists, and "clever" snark will finally gently caress it Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jul 26, 2014 |
# ? Jul 26, 2014 14:54 |
|
how many australian SAS does it take to kill russia? i want exact numbers
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 15:09 |
|
GateheaD posted:how many australian SAS does it take to kill russia? i want exact numbers 12. 10 will be busy gang raping 1 of them. The other guy will shoot Russia in the head.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 17:41 |
|
Fucitol posted:Someone explain an end state to me in which we give no fucks about Israel or Palestine. Israel either shits or gets off the pot.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 18:04 |
|
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 18:05 |
|
Reference to Tripoli?
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 18:11 |
|
TCD posted:Reference to Tripoli? Iraq in the next 6 months when our 750 troops defend the embassy and the last chinook carries hajis to their own personal settlement...in death valley to accommodate their need of mud hut building materials.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 18:18 |
|
Anansi The Spider posted:Iraq in the next 6 months when our 750 troops defend the embassy and the last chinook carries hajis to their own personal settlement...in death valley to accommodate their need of mud hut building materials. Think you're ever gonna make it down range?
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 18:23 |
|
They called leaving 30th AG and going to your BCT going "down range" when I was there.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 18:44 |
|
Cole posted:They called leaving 30th AG and going to your BCT going "down range" when I was there. I was confused by this when the Drill Sergeants also said "when you go down range..." "But I already am down range? "
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 19:03 |
|
one day i will be deployed to bagram and get my CIB from a random haj blowing up his underwear bomb 50 feet from the wire
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 19:47 |
|
Anansi The Spider posted:one day i will be deployed to bagram and get my CIB from a random haj blowing up his underwear bomb 50 feet from the wire Not even that happens at BAF, but maybe you can trip during one of the weekly 5k fun runs and get Purple Heart out of it somehow.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 19:55 |
|
psydude posted:Not even that happens at BAF, but maybe you can trip during one of the weekly 5k fun runs and get Purple Heart out of it somehow. heat cat purple heart?
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 19:59 |
|
Anansi The Spider posted:one day i will be deployed to bagram and get my CIB from a random haj blowing up his underwear bomb 50 feet from the wire Not from a TRADOC unit.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 20:01 |
|
DoktorLoken posted:Not from a TRADOC unit. gently caress no maybe when I reup then I can politely ask for 1st ID, hopefully get 1st brigade.
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 20:18 |
|
Anansi The Spider posted:one day i will be deployed to bagram and get my CIB from a random haj blowing up his underwear bomb 50 feet from the wire
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 20:49 |
|
Casimir Radon posted:Maybe yell "He's coming right at us!". Right before blowing away the omelet guy. he had it coming, great service, questionable sanitation
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 21:05 |
|
Goons in Platoons: great service, questionable sanitation
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 22:21 |
|
KKS trigger warning: tangentially related to I/P http://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-turkey-trade-insults-over-gaza/ quote:Egypt warned Ankara Saturday of “further action” as it protested for the second time in a week at the Turkish premier criticizing its president and Cairo’s handling of the Gaza conflict. Ties have been strained since both withdrew their ambassadors last year after the Egyptian military ousted Islamist president Mohammed Morsi, who had forged closer ties with Turkey’s devout Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The AP article below takes a slightly different angle from the AFP artice quoted above: http://online.wsj.com/articles/egypt-warns-turkey-of-worsening-relations-1406396932 quote:CAIRO—Egypt's Foreign Ministry on Saturday condemned Turkey's prime minister for calling Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi a tyrant, warning that already sour relations between the two countries could worsen. Interesting to see Egypt and the Arab League splitting so publicly with the Hamas-Qatar-Kerry-Turkey axis over this issue
|
# ? Jul 26, 2014 22:43 |
|
Snowdens Secret posted:KKS trigger warning: tangentially related to I/P this kind of stuff doesn't bother me because it's actually interesting and not just you jerking off about yahweh and the plight of the jews
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 00:23 |
|
Snowdens Secret posted:Couple points: Well, except for the 42 dead Israeli soldiers, the deteriorating international relations , and the lack of an actual objective making this short conflict already a quagmire for Israel.
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 04:37 |
|
CSM posted:Well, except for the 42 dead Israeli soldiers, the deteriorating international relations , and the lack of an actual objective making this short conflict already a quagmire for Israel. No one that actually has power in this world gives a gently caress that they're murdering a shitload of brown people en masse.
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 04:59 |
|
I think they got a pretty big Get Out Of Jail Free card with all the tunnels and poo poo like was pointed out earlier. Hearing a lot about that, and it's a pretty solid talking point to say "We told everyone they'd just use it to attack us, and look how many bridges or schools they didn't build with it." Also the multiple cease-fire rejections by Hamas are getting them hammered in the media.
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 05:44 |
|
I dunno, maybe if Israel lifted the blockade and opened up the borders people in Gaza would have less of a reason to give a poo poo about Hamas.
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 06:03 |
|
psydude posted:I dunno, maybe if Israel lifted the blockade and opened up the borders people in Gaza would have less of a reason to give a poo poo about Hamas. When we let those goddamn savages have the very basic of tools- to build things like housing, sanitation, hospitals, bridges.. Etc, they didn't. They built tunnels and fortified their caches and launch sites. Listen, these so called people can't be trusted with anything more than their own bare hands to beg with, or they're gonna go kike killing. Don't be a stupid frog, leave the scorpions alone.
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 06:09 |
|
|
# ? Mar 28, 2024 16:14 |
|
imo we should just sell palestine to qatar, since they're apparently going to bankroll the government workers and infrastructure there
|
# ? Jul 27, 2014 06:14 |