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Bieeardo posted:Waking Mars is amazing, but those tuning 'puzzles' and that long 'lower the siphons' sequence are just loving awful. It's possible to completely gently caress ecosystems after a while, but once you reach that point you should have an idea of how not to, and hopefully how to fix it. I ended up completely ruining a room with the plants that convert the pH of growth spots and "fixed" the problem by deleting the save file for that room. I appreciate the existence of a completely non-violent Metroidvania, but Waking Mars has some severe pacing and design problems.
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pseudorandom name posted:I ended up completely ruining a room with the plants that convert the pH of growth spots and "fixed" the problem by deleting the save file for that room. I appreciate the existence of a completely non-violent Metroidvania, but Waking Mars has some severe pacing and design problems. It's not nonviolent. Plants try to kill you all the time.
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Drifter posted:Oh hey, rolling ball puzzles. Hey man, everyone loved that Final Fantasy game where one person carried a cup and everyone else had fun. Or waited for freaking
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Jul 27, 2014 20:53
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Drifter posted:Oh hey, rolling ball puzzles. Hey, any one that thinks the 2013 Tomb Raider had too much shooting should be absolutely delighted to get back to what the real Tomb Raider is about, pushing stuff around.
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Jul 27, 2014 21:00
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MooCowlian posted:Are you sure you've actually lost games? They've merged some of the things which had multiple entries for mac/windows or something - I know GTA SA/VC had this, and I think a few others. This is great, I didn't know they did that, and the multiple copies of Grand Theft Auto games were driving me nuts. I just checked myself and those are all gone now.
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Jul 27, 2014 21:26
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Finally getting around to playing Far Cry 3. I actually played Blood Dragon about a year ago (which was awesome) and I think it might have tainted 3 for me. Obviously it still has the same mechanics and taking strongholds and the like is fun but I can tell it's going to waaaaay overstay it's welcome. Stuff like climbing radio towers is already starting to wear thin and I'm not even that far in yet. Blood Dragon was over before any of that stuff started to lose its luster.
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Jul 27, 2014 21:36
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Has anyone tried the steam daily deal game Landmark? My wife and I love playing exploration / building games together
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Jul 27, 2014 21:54
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You have to complete all the story acts to get random mode anyway in diablo 3 so its kind of a moot point whether it is worth playing them.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:05
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Everyone should play Story Mode at least once, if only to see how terrible the story is. That aside, having to play it only once is way better than it being the only thing you can play before the expansion.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:11
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Azran posted:Everyone should play Story Mode at least once, if only to see how terrible the story is. That aside, having to play it only once is way better than it being the only thing you can play before the expansion. How bad was it? SC2: HotS bad, or even worse? It constantly amazes me how Blizz can get game mechanics so perfect, make jaw-dropping FMVs/ graphics and amazing gameplay, but gently caress up story and world-building so bad. I mean, isn't the plot of Diablo game basically "kill Diablo" anyway?
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Jul 27, 2014 22:15
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It's so bad it makes the plot of the other games less interesting. When a series makes constant references to past material, it's called a fan wank, or fan-service. I'm not sure what it's called when a series takes those references and shits all over them. I would be fine with ignoring the plot entirely except the game keeps shoving it in your face. Adventure mode is an extremely late addition, before you had to play story mode exclusively.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:21
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:How bad was it? SC2: HotS bad, or even worse? It constantly amazes me how Blizz can get game mechanics so perfect, make jaw-dropping FMVs/ graphics and amazing gameplay, but gently caress up story and world-building so bad. I mean, isn't the plot of Diablo game basically "kill Diablo" anyway? The worst part about story mode is having to watch the stupid loving dialogue/cutscenes over and over. Diablo is supposed to be fast paced, but before adventure mode you spent 90% of your time skipping dialogue or cutscenes it was so stupid.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:24
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It misses funny-bad then? Relatedly, is blizzards downloader usually this terrible? I'm getting 1MB/s from steam, but downloading D3 is giving me at most 200KB/s. I've checked there's no download limit on the launcher, so does blizzard just have awful speeds or something?
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Jul 27, 2014 22:25
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I haven't played SC2: HotS but I imagine there's some painfully telegraphed betrayals in there and at least two corruptions to the dark side. You think it would be hard to gently caress up "kill Diablo" but they managed in spades of Blizzard style where you need to be betrayed twice an Act and fight corrupted angels and MAYBE YOU WILL GET CORRUPTED TOO??? and you have to spend all your time with NPCs who blather on about how much they miss their uncle and it actually makes you miss their uncle as well because at least he knew his loving place and stayed in town.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:27
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:It constantly amazes me how Blizz can get game mechanics so perfect, make jaw-dropping FMVs/ graphics and amazing gameplay, but gently caress up story and world-building so bad. I mean, isn't the plot of Diablo game basically "kill Diablo" anyway?
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Jul 27, 2014 22:28
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There's an option to skip all cutscenes in Diablo 3, which you should check on. For all dialogue, just mash spacebar until people stop talking. I've played D3 a ton and I barely even know what the plot is about, such as it is. The story won't get in the way if you do those two things.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:29
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Palpek posted:It's because Chris Metzen is a hack and a terrible writer but is so high up Blizzard's ladder that nobody can challenge his poo poo ever. They should fire him and get writers on the level of their art team but it's not happening.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:32
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Chris Metzen is like the goth teenager in high school who is always doodling giant demon cocks in his notebook. Take a look at some of his wonderful art from the Diablo 1 manual.   Here's some from Starcraft:   
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exquisite tea posted:There's an option to skip all cutscenes in Diablo 3, which you should check on. For all dialogue, just mash spacebar until people stop talking. I've played D3 a ton and I barely even know what the plot is about, such as it is. The story won't get in the way if you do those two things. Yea but its still a thing you have to do, its not like D2 where you pretty much never have that poo poo and its constant killing. Even with skip cutscenes on it still like does a little loading screen to play the cutscene before it skips and ohhh man it has to be the worst decision in a diablo game ever.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:37
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Reason posted:Yea but its still a thing you have to do, its not like D2 where you pretty much never have that poo poo and its constant killing. Even with skip cutscenes on it still like does a little loading screen to play the cutscene before it skips and ohhh man it has to be the worst decision in a diablo game ever. It's like .5 sec of loading time, if that's too much for you to handle then I don't know how you ever tolerated porting back to town 100 times to restock potions in D2.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:39
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:It's so bad it makes the plot of the other games less interesting. When a series makes constant references to past material, it's called a fan wank, or fan-service. I'm not sure what it's called when a series takes those references and shits all over them. I would be fine with ignoring the plot entirely except the game keeps shoving it in your face. Adventure mode is an extremely late addition, before you had to play story mode exclusively.
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Jul 27, 2014 22:43
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The demon lord who is supposed to be the most insanely good strategist on all the Seven Hells says stuff like "Oh, you defeated my *PLAN A*. But you will never defeat *PLAN B*, who is in X location doing Y and will do terrible damage to your efforts in Z time. HEHE" When you defeat it, it's the same, but with Plan C. All the obviously evil characters who pass as "good" ones betray the player in completely obvious ways. It's not even funny, it's just terrible. You used to be unable to skip all this stuff, too!
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Jul 27, 2014 23:00
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I thought I'd hate Diablo's story since I spoiled it for myself before playing, but it was still entertaining. Sagacious Zu was some crazy potsmoking sage that came out of nowhere. The bad guys are laughably incompetent - but Diablo him/herself was pretty boss.
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Jul 28, 2014 00:18
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Jul 28, 2014 00:23
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Ace Combat Assault Horizon worth it at 5 bucks?
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Jul 28, 2014 00:26
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Insert name here posted:I'm eagerly awaiting the Protoss campaign for SC2 so I can find out who get corrupted Clearly everyone but the noble hero protagonists. Or Raynor will turn evil then Kerrigan will turn him back in an act of true love. While the head Protoss guy narrates about how those 2 represent the future of sentient races, UNLESS THEY FALL TO THE XEL-NAGA! *cue dramatic music
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Jul 28, 2014 00:28
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MGN001 posted:Are any of the FlatOut games any good? FlatOut:UC is an amazing party game.
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Jul 28, 2014 00:29
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The story in Diablo 3 is just a way to get the player through the levels, and it does that well enough. It's not anything to get bent out of shape over, and I can't understand why so many people have such a burning hatred of it even to this day. I mean, at worst it's forgettable and aside from maybe one thing there's nothing to get upset over.
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Jul 28, 2014 00:33
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Scyantific posted:Ace Combat Assault Horizon worth it at 5 bucks? Thinking the same thing.. I am so on the fence about it.
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Jul 28, 2014 00:34
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it's really bad (diablo's story, not ace combat)
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:The story in Diablo 3 is just a way to get the player through the levels, and it does that well enough. It's not anything to get bent out of shape over, and I can't understand why so many people have such a burning hatred of it even to this day. I mean, at worst it's forgettable and aside from maybe one thing there's nothing to get upset over. Because it's really bad and in your face about its badness? It's not like the story is delivered by tiny little unobtrusive lines of text in the corner of the screen or something.
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Jul 28, 2014 00:37
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Blizzard lied, Cain died.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Chris Metzen is like the goth teenager in high school who is always doodling giant demon cocks in his notebook. Take a look at some of his wonderful art from the Diablo 1 manual. His Wikipedia entry describes him as a "game designer, artist, voice actor and author..." Such talent! He is also taking fashion advice from Bono, apparently. 
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Jul 28, 2014 00:47
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Diablo 2's story was a means of moving players from one location to another and it wasn't offensively bad. In fact it was very effective and its level of player involvement was decided by the player through interacting with the NPCs. It's just between that game and this one Blizzard became so in love with their writing they thought that people should experience it, if they wanted to or not.
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Jul 28, 2014 00:48
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Decided to start up and finish Chapter 1 of Wolf Among Us. Oh god now I've got a whole day of work ahead before I can get to the rest!
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MGN001 posted:Are any of the FlatOut games any good? Flatout 1 is decent but dated. Flatout 2 is great but... Flatout ultimate carnage is Flatout 2 with the graphics vastly improved. It's really great if you're looking for an arcadey racer with short races. Also has a load of ridiculous stunt events where you get to ragdoll your drivers through the windshield. (Check youtube it's hard to describe.) Flatout 3 is apparently a massive and complete trainwreck that is to be avoided at all costs.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:The story in Diablo 3 is just a way to get the player through the levels, and it does that well enough. It's not anything to get bent out of shape over, and I can't understand why so many people have such a burning hatred of it even to this day. I mean, at worst it's forgettable and aside from maybe one thing there's nothing to get upset over. I'm not upset over it, but you're massively underplaying how bad it is. It's insanely bad. And Blizzard constantly shoved it in your face at every opportunity. It's simply noteworthy in how awful it is.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:06
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SynthOrange posted:Decided to start up and finish Chapter 1 of Wolf Among Us. That was the best part of the game so no rush. In fact just keep playing chapter 1 again.
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Scyantific posted:Ace Combat Assault Horizon worth it at 5 bucks? If you're comparing it to the older Ace Combat's its okay. If you're only looking for an arcade flight game I'd say its pretty good.
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monster on a stick posted:That was the best part of the game so no rush. In fact just keep playing chapter 1 again. I've heard that the last chapter is kind of cathartic, at least.
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