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Here's your new thread for Israel/Palestine chat. I recognize that it's a "current event" but there's enough other stuff going on in the world to keep the thread busy and given the sometimes heated discussions that come along with I/P chat it can be a bit derailing. Enough people are complaining about said derails that I want it to have its own thread. Thanks!
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Name names, Slagcheek http://time.com/3042640/satellite-russian-ukraine-shelling/ quote:U.S. officials released satellite images Sunday they say offer proof that Russian forces have been shelling eastern Ukraine in a campaign to assist rebel groups fighting Ukraine’s government in Kiev. Obama administration officials said as early as last week that the Russians were launching attacks in eastern Ukraine. Interesting that it used civilian imagery, I can imagine why Where's State on this one? quote:The release came as Secretary of State John F. Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov agreed in a telephone call Sunday that “despite disagreements fighting must be stopped” and talks initiated between the warring parties in Ukraine, according to a Russian government statement reported in Moscow by the Interfax news agency. The State Department said the five-minute call included discussions of both Ukraine and Gaza. for gently caress's sake
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Jul 28, 2014 06:01
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Obama Africanus posted:I understand the last newspaper you read was wrapped around fried cod and some fries, but just because things are confusing for your feeble piggy brain doesn't mean they suck. It just means that your cerebral cortex tastes great with eggs and you can buy it canned at wal-mart. pretty hosed up that you double dipped on this whip
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Jul 28, 2014 06:24
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Snowdens Secret posted:Name names, Slagcheek So, I was an imagery analyst. Commercial imagery makes up the vast majority of holdings. Why wouldn't they release commercial? It would be illogical not to.
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Jul 28, 2014 06:25
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So Russia get caught in what's effectively an act of war, and yet nothing will come of it. Man this world is hosed.
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Jul 28, 2014 06:26
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Barnsy posted:So Russia get caught in what's effectively an act of war, and yet nothing will come of it. Man this world is hosed. no, unfortunately america doesnt view one group of slackjawed slavs bombing another as a good reason to end this whole loving farce they call humanity
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Jul 28, 2014 06:28
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:no, unfortunately america doesnt view one group of slackjawed slavs bombing another as a good reason to end this whole loving farce they call humanity Which is a loving shame
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Jul 28, 2014 06:29
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Obama Africanus posted:I understand the last newspaper you read was wrapped around fried cod and some fries, but just because things are confusing for your feeble piggy brain doesn't mean they suck. It just means that your cerebral cortex tastes great with eggs and you can buy it canned at wal-mart.  this was a masterfully executed well thought out post, that's how you know shim cares about you whip, that he is willing to put in the effort to make a beautiful post for you.
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Jul 28, 2014 06:30
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Barnsy posted:So Russia get caught in what's effectively an act of war, and yet nothing will come of it. Man this world is hosed. lol we literally invaded a country for no loving reason and nothing came of it
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Jul 28, 2014 06:31
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:no, unfortunately america doesnt view one group of slackjawed slavs bombing another as a good reason to end this whole loving farce they call humanity Bolow posted:Which is a loving shame top notch reading comprehension debba dawg 
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Jul 28, 2014 06:37
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white privilege posted:So, I was an imagery analyst. Commercial imagery makes up the vast majority of holdings. Why wouldn't they release commercial? It would be illogical not to. I was thinking more in terms of using the civilian stuff for open release helps keep the capacity (and in the unlikely chance the Rus don't already have them, the orbits) of the milbirds more secret. Note the WaPo article just sort of guesses the imagery came from mil satellites, with no basis.
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Jul 28, 2014 06:39
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RIP I/P thread, also when is russia going to sweep through Ukraine like the loving Jews did to the muzzies back in 1967
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Jul 28, 2014 06:40
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Too bad it wasn't rip anansi the spider 
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Jul 28, 2014 06:46
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orange juche posted:Too bad it wasn't rip anansi the spider ranger that
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Jul 28, 2014 06:47
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Anansi The Spider posted:ranger that is this a thing you and your boot buddies say to each other?
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Jul 28, 2014 06:51
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Anansi The Spider posted:ranger that This. This is a thing no one does. Talk like a normal loving human being.
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Jul 28, 2014 06:53
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Anansi The Spider posted:ranger that you really need to walk down range during a live fire exercise
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Jul 28, 2014 07:01
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I said it because it sounded obnoxious as gently caress in response to orange juche, I know of one man that says "ranger that" unironically. That man was is a DS who lost his hat and badge for giving us blood rifles, rip ds so and so, it was either that or decapitating a deer with an arty sim booby trap
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Jul 28, 2014 07:16
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Anansi The Spider posted:I said it because it sounded obnoxious as gently caress in response to orange juche, I know of one man that says "ranger that" unironically. That man was is a DS who lost his hat and badge for giving us blood rifles, rip ds so and so, it was either that or decapitating a deer with an arty sim booby trap thingsthatneverhappened.txt
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Jul 28, 2014 07:18
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Carteret posted:thingsthatneverhappened.txt Ok. I keep forgetting that all army personnel whether iet or otherwise are perfect soldiers that would never dream of doing anything for the gently caress of it. Integrity men integrityy
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Jul 28, 2014 07:21
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I've never heard anyone ever say "ranger that", ironically or otherwise, and I am glad of this.
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Jul 28, 2014 07:21
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That's got to be a thing they make idiot DEPers say, right?
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Jul 28, 2014 07:23
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Y'know what gently caress it at least Russia is smart enough to only adopt stray countries that it wants to keep. Pinky swear Dad, we'll give Iraq a bath every week. PLEEEEEEEASE??
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Jul 28, 2014 07:24
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white privilege posted:So, I was an imagery analyst. Commercial imagery makes up the vast majority of holdings. Why wouldn't they release commercial? It would be illogical not to. I'm confused, because they did release the images.
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Jul 28, 2014 07:47
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white privilege posted:lol we literally invaded a country for no loving reason and nothing came of it Yes, authorized by our Congress and publicly noted so if anyone had a problem it could be aired publicly and against a corrupt dictator nobody liked. None of this official "no we didn't" when anyone with half a brain knows they did. Don't compare the two.
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Jul 28, 2014 07:50
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psydude posted:I'm confused, because they did release the images. yes, he was noting and stating that it was interesting that the imagery was released was commercial. I said of course it was, it would be stupid not to release commercial. RonMexicosPitbull posted:Yes, authorized by our Congress and publicly noted so if anyone had a problem it could be aired publicly and against a corrupt dictator nobody liked. Authorized by Congress based upon intelligence that was incredibly circumstantial at best, and blatantly false at worst. I wasn't aware that a dictator whom "nobody liked" is judicial pretense for starting a war. Don't try to make it out to be some sterling example of American jurisprudence. Granted, I'm speaking with the benefit of hindsight, but the world would be an incontrovertibly better place if we had never invaded Iraq and Saddam Hussein was still in power. If you want a different comparison, try Yemen. Russia's actions in Ukraine mirror ours there. Of course nothing happened because of them. When you're big enough and have enough leverage, you have quite a free hand to run around with.
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Jul 28, 2014 08:00
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white privilege posted:Authorized by Congress based upon intelligence that was incredibly circumstantial at best, and blatantly false at worst. I wasn't aware that a dictator whom "nobody liked" is judicial pretense for starting a war. Are you serious? quote:Don't try to make it out to be some sterling example of American jurisprudence. Granted, I'm speaking with the benefit of hindsight, but the world would be an incontrovertibly better place if we had never invaded Iraq and Saddam Hussein was still in power. quote:If you want a different comparison, try Yemen. Russia's actions in Ukraine mirror ours there. Of course nothing happened because of them. When you're big enough and have enough leverage, you have quite a free hand to run around with.
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Jul 28, 2014 08:15
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:Are you serious? Yep. I'm serious. Nothing in the first line was even remotely shocking. Anyway, the topic was that guy can't believe it that nothing is happening to Russia after committing acts of war. This has nothing to do with "amerikkka does it too" and everything to do with the fact that, as I said, powerful actors can act unilaterally without consequence when they have enough leverage. Iraq is easily the best recent example of this. As for Yemen, calling it the "yemeni government" is kind of funny, since Saleh has little to no popular support, or influence outside the capital. In fact, the domestically unpopular regime of Saleh having the support of the US has quite a bit of similarity to the domestically unpopular Yushchenko having the support of Russia. That game simply accelerated, and we're now past that phase in Ukraine. In any case, there's no moral or ethical argument here, simply a statement of facts. That guy expressed surprise at the idea that Russia could "get away" with something like this, and the first comment was referencing the fact that it should not be a surprise in the slightest.
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Jul 28, 2014 08:26
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:We have e;fb regarding Russia/Ukraine and repercussions for a shocking act of war, the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must. Been the rules of the game for over 2000 years and counting, and I don't expect it to change anytime soon.
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Jul 28, 2014 09:04
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The whole Ukraine/Russia scenario is just a mass marketing campaign for Battlefield 5. DICE will kick off a small regional conflict for every new DLC, culminating in Arizona trying to secede with Joe Arpaio declaring himself god-emperor and trying to exterminate anyone who is more than 2 shades off lilly white
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Jul 28, 2014 11:25
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:The whole Ukraine/Russia scenario is just a mass marketing campaign for Battlefield 5. DICE will kick off a small regional conflict for every new DLC, culminating in Arizona trying to secede with Joe Arpaio declaring himself god-emperor and trying to exterminate anyone who is more than 2 shades off lilly white I would buy this game. I actually know the guy who is "military advisor" to dice. I am going to have to ask him about this. What is he keeping from me?? Someone buy Joe an account here and point him to the ask a cop thread. I have so many questions for that guy. Like what does he need a mobile artillery for?  Can any of you cop goons care to explain this one for me? 
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Jul 28, 2014 11:57
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moosepoop posted:I would buy this game. It says right on the barrel, for "Blasting Away at Drugs."
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Jul 28, 2014 12:19
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For shelling Sonora in Mexico with white phosphorus as a 'pro-active policing' measure? Or dispersing large groups of teenage refugees gathering by the border?
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Jul 28, 2014 12:35
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moosepoop posted:I would buy this game. wanna say it's a swat vehicle for forced entry?....like in the naked gun 2.5 movie. 
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Jul 28, 2014 12:53
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Wasabi the J posted:It says right on the barrel, for "Blasting Away at Drugs." Suddenly I want to become a cop in Arizona.
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Jul 28, 2014 13:09
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It's been mentioned here before, but that wasn't the tank Arpaio let Steven Seagal drive through some poor schlub's house, that was a different tank
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Jul 28, 2014 15:10
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Arpaio wasted a bunch of his homeland security handout on a tank that doesn't run because he's an idiot playacting for his moron constituents. A good comparison would be Donald Trump, he's actually a pretty lovely businessman who's managed to survive this long by passing the cost of his failures off on anyone dumb enough to invest with him. A millionaire who goes to extremes to pretend he's a billionaire.
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Jul 28, 2014 15:28
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Looks more like self-propelled artillery, and I'm betting they spent more time & money on the paint job than maintenance. Maintenance is a pain in the dick for tracked vehicles but necessary* if you want the damned thing to start and move more than five feet. *Russian museum pieces that haven't moved since WWII excepted. Pour in some diesel and you're good to go.
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Jul 28, 2014 15:36
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Casimir Radon posted:Arpaio wasted a bunch of his homeland security handout on a tank that doesn't run because he's an idiot playacting for his moron constituents. It's not like the tanks that do run, or the APCs or RIB boats or almost any of the other poo poo that Homeland Security money's been spent on by PDs across the country has been particularly useful for non-sham crime fighting.
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Jul 28, 2014 15:45
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Should have built a killdozer and used that instead, then I wouldn't think that he is such a oval office.
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Jul 28, 2014 15:52
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