Current Events Thread: You know shit is bad when even we aren't joking.

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RonMexicosPitbull: Feb 28, 2012; by Ralp

Mustang posted:

It must be terrifying for those poor Israelis having to live with such a threat.

Do you mind if I mortar your neighborhood with your friends and family a few hundred times a month?

Don't worry though I'm a terrible shot.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:12

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 10:32

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Well as long as the cat isn't hurt, I don't really care. If it wasn't for the camera I'd think the dog was just digging the holes.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:14

RandomPauI: Nov 24, 2006; Grimey Drawer

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

Do you mind if I shell or carpet bomb your neighborhood with your friends and family a few hundred times a month?

Fixed that for you

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:17

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Mustang posted:

It must be terrifying for those poor Israelis having to live with such a threat.

[vid]israeli weddign + cowering[/vid]

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:19

Melthir: Dec 29, 2009; I need to go scrap some money together cause my avatar is just sad.

Mustang posted:

It must be terrifying for those poor Israelis having to live with such a threat.

I know right. I dont want to get someone or somethings piss on me either.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:25

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

Do you mind if I mortar your neighborhood with your friends and family a few hundred times a month?

Don't worry though I'm a terrible shot.

Hundreds? No month before July reached anywhere near 100 and for the first half of the year there were about 170 total rocket attacks that managed to injure a whopping 4 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

After 2500 rocket attacks in July managed to injure 34 people.

Yes, the Israeli's are clearly the victims here.

Israel is a terrible "ally" that can't even have the decency to not sell our military technology to the Chinese.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:27

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

My favorite thing about isreal is they have attacked us navy ships and the us was like welp, ok, don't do it again you plucky little guy.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:46

psydude: Apr 1, 2008; Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

I don't get all of the outrage around the Chris Kyle thing. Dude was apparently a douche who libeled Ventura; why are people getting up in arms about this?

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:57

Kung Fu Fist Fuck: Aug 9, 2009

my favorite thing about israel is that as we speak they are killing subhuman mooslems and thats pretty neat

# ? Jul 31, 2014 05:57

Noeland: Feb 28, 2006

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

my favorite thing about israel is that as we speak they are killing subhuman mooslems and thats pretty neat

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:00

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

My favorite thing about Israel is that it's going to get this thread gassed.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:26

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

not if whip does his drat job! fucker must be out eating donuts again

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:32

RandomPauI: Nov 24, 2006; Grimey Drawer

In other news this monster meal could be a real killer.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:39

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

WHIP WE HAVE DONUTS!! :siren:

http://i.imgur.com/A3P9ysR.jpg :nws:

Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jul 31, 2014

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:44

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

If there's one thing we can all agree on it's that titties are awesome

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:46

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

Mustang posted:

If there's one thing we can all agree on it's that titties are awesome

I've seen some terrible titties. :smith:

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:53

Carteret: Nov 10, 2012

Zeroisanumber posted:

I've seen some terrible titties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtB_jvznaNM

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:54

Whip Slagcheek: Sep 21, 2008; Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night

This thread sucks again, what the gently caress. Go back to your ghetto, DND.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 06:55

iyaayas01: Feb 19, 2010; Perry'd

Courthouse posted:

Suicide bombing has nothing to do with moral high ground and everything to do with a desperate lack of alternate effective modes of attack. If you think jews wouldn't be strapping bombs to their chests if that was all that stood between them and the sea, then

The Jews regularly attacked civilian targets using car bombs and IEDs back before when the state of Israel was a thing and the Jews actually were (sort of, at least until the Brits left) the plucky underdogs. Of course since Jews are smart, they generally didn't stick around to blow themselves up.

gfanikf posted:

Forgetting Pakistan?

We haven't bothered to even pretend they're a friend for at least the past 5 years or so.

Also lol at Pakistani troops accomplishing anything other than being slaughtered wholesale at a rate slightly less than the ANSF.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:07

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

psydude posted:

I don't get all of the outrage around the Chris Kyle thing. Dude was apparently a douche who libeled Ventura; why are people getting up in arms about this?

After living through his governorship I have no doubt that he would have said what he was purported to say, he's got quite the history of saying stupid things (And exaggerating his service record). Even if Kyle was lying going after his widow is pretty low.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:35

Whip Slagcheek: Sep 21, 2008; Finally
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Will Light The Sky
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Casimir Radon posted:

After living through his governorship I have no doubt that he would have said what he was purported to say, he's got quite the history of saying stupid things (And exaggerating his service record). Even if Kyle was lying going after his widow is pretty low.

To be fair, the lawsuit was initiated prior to his death. It just took awhile to wind its way through the court system.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:46

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Whip Slagcheek posted:

To be fair, the lawsuit was initiated prior to his death. It just took awhile to wind its way through the court system.

He could have dropped it.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:48

Whip Slagcheek: Sep 21, 2008; Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
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Casimir Radon posted:

He could have dropped it.

Yes, yes he could have.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:48

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

Casimir Radon posted:

He could have dropped it.

Jesse 'THE BODY' does not drop nothin, punk.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:51

Saturn889: Jul 13, 2014

Ventura's a dick and always talk out of his rear end. See any O&A clip with Jimmy Norton arguing with him. He resorts to disagreement by calling people "patriots" sarcastically.

Also, from the clips I've heard of Chris Kyle describing the incident, I would believe him - guess we will never know.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 07:54

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

IIRC, Ventura offered to drop the suit if Chris Kyle (and later his estate) was willing to just come out and say that he made the whole barfight episode up.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:02

Snowdens Secret: Dec 29, 2008; Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Mustang posted:

After 2500 rocket attacks in July managed to injure 34 people.

Yes, the Israeli's are clearly the victims here.

Israel is a terrible "ally" that can't even have the decency to not sell our military technology to the Chinese.

Is this the Jon Stewart "Because the Israelis have the good sense to build bomb shelters to shelter themselves from bombs instead of shelter their bombs and die topside, they're being totally unfair" argument?

RandomPauI posted:

They're nicknamed "Piss Rockets". Here is one in action.

Here's the piss rockets they're using these days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZkCnel5Js4

Which Hamas can't aim worth a poo poo, hitting a hospital and a refugee camp, killing 20-odd Palestinians:

Of course the Al-Shifa hospital is already being used as a Hamas command center with an interrogation room right next to the ER. Journalists slipping up and mentioning this are getting death threats online and rather more direct ones in person.

Coincidentally I ran across this, from the former UK commander in Afghanistan:

quote:

DD: How has the British army in Afghanistan gained from the Israeli army�s expertise?

RK: There are a number of elements that Britain has taken from the Israeli army. One of which is methods of reducing civilian casualties that we�ve seen in operation since Afghanistan, where Britain has adopted tactics like leaflet dropping on targets with potential civilians in the area. British soldiers lives have also been saved by Israeli battlefield medical technology and also by Israeli counter-bomb technology, that is, technological equipment that stops or detects improvised explosive devices like roadside bombs. British soldiers� lives in Afghanistan have been saved and are being saved by that technology. Beyond that, British and Israeli intelligence cooperation is extremely tight and that has saved the lives not just of soldiers but of British civilians as well. By the way, British soldiers and ex-soldiers strongly support Israel and the IDF because unlike many civilians, they understand the threat that Israel faces they understand the tactics used by Hamas and they understand what the IDF have to do to deal with Hamas because those same tactics are used by the Taliban and in response, British soldiers have to use the tactics of the IDF to fight them.

I'm assuming the leaflet dropping is more 'Bad guy X lives in your neighborhood, move away or throw him out' as simple 'we're bombing here' leaflets go back at least to WWII. But he has a point that if you've used counter-IED tech (this is more for GiP than our D&D visitors) you've quite probably had your rear end saved by the Israelis at least once.

(This post typed out using an Israeli CPU)

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:03

Saturn889: Jul 13, 2014

Snowdens Secret posted:

Is this the Jon Stewart "Because the Israelis have the good sense to build bomb shelters to shelter themselves from bombs instead of shelter their bombs and die topside, they're being totally unfair" argument?

Here's the piss rockets they're using these days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZkCnel5Js4

Which Hamas can't aim worth a poo poo, hitting a hospital and a refugee camp, killing 20-odd Palestinians:

Of course the Al-Shifa hospital is already being used as a Hamas command center with an interrogation room right next to the ER. Journalists slipping up and mentioning this are getting death threats online and rather more direct ones in person.

Coincidentally I ran across this, from the former UK commander in Afghanistan:

I'm assuming the leaflet dropping is more 'Bad guy X lives in your neighborhood, move away or throw him out' as simple 'we're bombing here' leaflets go back at least to WWII. But he has a point that if you've used counter-IED tech (this is more for GiP than our D&D visitors) you've quite probably had your rear end saved by the Israelis at least once.

(This post typed out using an Israeli CPU)

They aim specifically for civilians. In their case lovely aim is a good thing

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:06

Snowdens Secret: Dec 29, 2008; Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/world/africa/ransoming-citizens-europe-becomes-al-qaedas-patron.html

quote:

While European governments deny paying ransoms, an investigation by The New York Times found that Al Qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid just last year.

In news releases and statements, the United States Treasury Department has cited ransom amounts that, taken together, put the total at around $165 million over the same period.

These payments were made almost exclusively by European governments, who funneled the money through a network of proxies, sometimes masking it as development aid, according to interviews conducted for this article with former hostages, negotiators, diplomats and government officials in 10 countries in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. The inner workings of the kidnapping business were also revealed in thousands of pages of internal Qaeda documents found by this reporter while on assignment for The Associated Press in northern Mali last year.

In its early years, Al Qaeda received most of its money from deep-pocketed donors, but counterterrorism officials now believe the group finances the bulk of its recruitment, training and arms purchases from ransoms paid to free Europeans.

Put more bluntly, Europe has become an inadvertent underwriter of Al Qaeda.

(emphasis mine)

Of course we pay some $400m a year to terrorists disguised as aid, so

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:07

Saturn889: Jul 13, 2014

Snowdens Secret posted:

Also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/world/africa/ransoming-citizens-europe-becomes-al-qaedas-patron.html

(emphasis mine)

Of course we pay some $400m a year to terrorists disguised as aid, so

A few top US corporations paid a gently caress ton of money in fines, when Obama turned up the santion heat and they didn't want to comply. IMO allowing Iran oil interests to do business with your bank IS funding terrorism directly, indirectly however you want to think about it.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:10

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Snowdens Secret posted:

Also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/world/africa/ransoming-citizens-europe-becomes-al-qaedas-patron.html

(emphasis mine)

Of course we pay some $400m a year to terrorists disguised as aid, so

And we give Israel $3 billion a year just to turn around and sell military technology to China. Israel doesn't deserve a single cent from the US. They can't even stop buildings settlements or stop selling military technology to China.

gently caress Israel. gently caress Palestine. gently caress the Middle East.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:21

Whip Slagcheek: Sep 21, 2008; Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night

Mustang posted:

gently caress Israel. gently caress Palestine. gently caress the Middle East.

This is really the takeaway message here.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:25

RandomPauI: Nov 24, 2006; Grimey Drawer

We can take i/p stuff to GBS or DND. This threads been doing to well for to long to let a war get it gassed.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:25

Genocide Tendency: Dec 24, 2009; I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.

Ah yes. Gas a current events thread for discussing current events.

Seems legit.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:46

vains: May 26, 2004; A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

Genocide Tendency posted:

Ah yes. Gas a current events thread for discussing current events.

Seems legit.

Disagreements are frightening and must be avoided.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:48

Snowdens Secret: Dec 29, 2008; Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Genocide Tendency posted:

Ah yes. Gas a current events thread for discussing current events.

Seems legit.

Jews posting jew news, of course D&D's first instinct involves rushing for the gas

Also I really don't think GBS's input of a bunch of anime clipart would be terribly relevant

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:49

Genocide Tendency: Dec 24, 2009; I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.

Snowdens Secret posted:

Jews posting jew news, of course D&D's first instinct involves rushing for the gas

Also I really don't think GBS's input of a bunch of anime clipart would be terribly relevant

D&D are a bunch of pearl clutching faggots and Stalin apologists.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 08:52

psydude: Apr 1, 2008; Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

Snowdens Secret posted:

But he has a point that if you've used counter-IED tech (this is more for GiP than our D&D visitors) you've quite probably had your rear end saved by the Israelis at least once.

Well let's see - MRAPs come from the South Africans, while CREW systems and CIED robots were US initiatives. I don't doubt that Israeli tech and techniques have made it into the EOD realm, but the same could be said for the British, who gained a wealth of knowledge in CIED operations from fighting the IRA.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 09:01

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH: Sep 9, 2001

Mustang posted:

Hundreds? No month before July reached anywhere near 100 and for the first half of the year there were about 170 total rocket attacks that managed to injure a whopping 4 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

After 2500 rocket attacks in July managed to injure 34 people.

Yes, the Israeli's are clearly the victims here.

Israel is a terrible "ally" that can't even have the decency to not sell our military technology to the Chinese.

Name one loving ally in the history of ever who hasn't sold technology to the Chinese.

I'm dead goddamn serious. Hell we get in the same game in the U.S. Private companies love blowing off the law and sending poo poo to China they "shouldn't." Welcome to the drawbacks of free and open societies and reliable and cheap lines of international communications and transportation.

Israel is our bulldog on a tenuous leash in the region, and our universal arming of the Middle East has been more destabilizing many times over when compared to the exploits of the Israelis and their quirky modern Gaza problems.

You don't seem to "get" the long arc of anything, let alone the history of American intervention in the region.

The worst loving ally to have in the Middle East is the United States.

Step one in the problem is admitting you have a problem- and in the spirit of that, perhaps we should review the long term security benefits of the Military Sales Jamboree in the region we're having in exchange for short term profits to our MIC, and extremely short lived goodwill from dubiously rational state and non state actors.

But hahahahahaha hahahahaha. I'll drink NyQuil and Boxed wine while building a pillow fort in Vas's basement before we ever have a moment where we question the "common sense" of our middle eastern "strategies" (And I can't put quotes around this hard enough),

No matter what happens, ultimately there are too many people, too many guns, not enough livable land, and not enough water and food. Give poo poo enough time, and one group is going to have to destroy the other as a separate and competitive force. Either this will happen through assimilation of one culture and peoples into the other, or one will become a footnote to history like the Iroquois or say, Sioux.

Human kind hasn't got the best history of assimilation however, particularly when it comes to these plucky motherfuckers on both sides.

In my opinion Our worst "allies" by far are France and Germany. And personally I love those smelly Muslim hating Frogs myself, and I'll never find myself comfortable with the Germans.

Ever.

I'm serious though, if you want a terrible goddamn Ally in the Middle East, the United States is your man. We'll happily arm your people to the teeth, spread about the blackbowder, Chuck a CALCM or Tomahawk, and watch the sands burn while laughing maniacally.

I loving love America.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Jul 31, 2014

# ? Jul 31, 2014 09:27

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 10:32

Snowdens Secret: Dec 29, 2008; Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

psydude posted:

Well let's see - MRAPs come from the South Africans, while CREW systems and CIED robots were US initiatives. I don't doubt that Israeli tech and techniques have made it into the EOD realm, but the same could be said for the British, who gained a wealth of knowledge in CIED operations from fighting the IRA.

The quote and the context suggests he's talking the electronic gizmos we don't talk about, not stuff like V-hulls.

The real stuff I mean, not the car-antenna-with-a-handle the Egyptians can cure AIDS with

# ? Jul 31, 2014 09:29

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