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Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

The Mantis posted:

Flag day on Friday!

Very exciting!

Good luck!

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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Wait, what? I thought Flag Day was two weeks ago?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

problematique posted:

Unfortunately, yes. That or if your maxed out in steps, no where to go.

On pay subject, I just recently learned the OT rules, no one ever told us about the cap! Thought it was just 1.5x, of course, that would be too easy. At some point I'm your career, you make less per hour on OT then regular pay, does everyone just do comp time instead at a certain point?

Couple of points here. As a specialist, you can continue to make OT during your career. But, as a certain point (FS-2, and FS-1) you're most certainly a manager, and you're expected to get the job done.

Now that you are a manager, you should have FS-3,4,5s in your section as well as LESs. You should be giving OT opportunities to those individuals unless it absolutely requires your attention. You don't want your 360s to always say that you hog OT and don't properly delegate. Of course the amount of OT needed in a section depends on the post itself (what's going on in the country), staffing, grade structure, etc.

TCD fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jul 28, 2014

Homie S
Aug 6, 2001

This is what it means

TCD posted:

Couple of points here. As a specialist, you can continue to make OT during your career. But, as a certain point (FS-2, and FS-1) you're most certainly a manager, and you're expected to get the job done.

Now that you are a manager, you should have FS-3,4,5s in your section as well as LESs. You should be giving OT opportunities to those individuals unless it absolutely requires your attention. You don't want your 360s to always say that you hog OT and don't properly delegate. Of course the amount of OT needed in a section depends on the post itself (what's going on in the country), staffing, grade structure, etc.

More importantly, FS2s and 1s hit their caps super quick, so it's kinda pointless. Most senior level DS guys I know have no issues passing that buck, as it's really not worth it for them.

Tyro posted:

Yup. And at the rate I have been earning it I probably won't use it all. At least I'm a ways away from hitting the pay cap.

Just tag it onto your AL, and plan it way in advance.

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?

Captain Bravo posted:

Wait, what? I thought Flag Day was two weeks ago?

I think that was FSS? I'm a generalist.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
I think I'm thinking of something else... Nevermind! Ignore me! :negative:

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.
Anyone worked at the embassy in Mexico City? More specifically, how is the housing situation/life near/around the embassy?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

psydude posted:

Anyone worked at the embassy in Mexico City? More specifically, how is the housing situation/life near/around the embassy?

From what I understand, there are several different areas of housing - most seem happy that I talked to. The current location is awesome if you want cheap street food. Not so good for crime during the evening from what I've been told.

When I was there, I took off jewelry and seldom checked my phone when I was on the street after dark. I also do the same when I'm in other Central American cities and I've never had a problem.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

TCD posted:

From what I understand, there are several different areas of housing - most seem happy that I talked to. The current location is awesome if you want cheap street food. Not so good for crime during the evening from what I've been told.

When I was there, I took off jewelry and seldom checked my phone when I was on the street after dark. I also do the same when I'm in other Central American cities and I've never had a problem.

It looks like it's smack dab in the middle of several trendy neighborhoods. The position I'm looking at would provide me with a housing allowance, so I'd have a bit more flexibility.

psydude fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jul 29, 2014

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

psydude posted:

It looks like it's smack dab in the middle of several trendy neighborhoods. The position I'm looking at would provide me with a housing allowance, so I'd have a bit more flexibility.

Check how long that contract is with the move to the new Embassy. That may have an impact on housing location.

Strudelmeyer
Sep 17, 2012

psydude posted:

Anyone worked at the embassy in Mexico City? More specifically, how is the housing situation/life near/around the embassy?

Thats our next posting, but not until 2016. I had heard that they had housing but can you pick allowance or assigned?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Strudelmeyer posted:

Thats our next posting, but not until 2016. I had heard that they had housing but can you pick allowance or assigned?

"Depends"

Strudelmeyer
Sep 17, 2012

TCD posted:

"Depends"

I have learned that lesson well this year.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

TCD posted:

Check how long that contract is with the move to the new Embassy. That may have an impact on housing location.

It's a standard 1+1 long term contract. Where's the new location? I couldn't find anything about it on the embassy website.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

psydude posted:

It's a standard 1+1 long term contract. Where's the new location? I couldn't find anything about it on the embassy website.

Do you have a POC for the office yet?

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

psydude posted:

It's a standard 1+1 long term contract. Where's the new location? I couldn't find anything about it on the embassy website.

is it IRM?

Salt Maker
Feb 5, 2006
Halogen was already taken
PN submitted, now we play the waiting game.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

TCD posted:

Do you have a POC for the office yet?

I'm still working through the interview process, so I'll bring it up at the next round.


I'm not sure. It's supporting a specific program, so I don't think it falls directly under the purview of IRM; however given that it's a management-level position I'm sure I'd wind up dealing with them a good bit.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
sounds like a HTF position? hit me up on IM...

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Skandiaavity posted:

sounds like a HTF position? hit me up on IM...

Not really - but I did guess it correctly on my first try :)

zzonkmiles
Mar 3, 2014

Oh, he was just arbitrarily saying stuff.
So when the world goes BOOM and embassy staff gets evacuated or relocated or whatever, what kind of ripple effect does that tend to have in the rest of the Foreign Service? Do dangerous events in one country cause unaffected FSOs in another country to think twice about staying in the FS? Does State look to increase hiring for FSOs in light of the new threats? Or do FSOs in the dangerous areas simply roll with the punches because they knew that's what they signed up for when they took that post in Baghdad or Karachi or Cairo?

Bruxism
Apr 29, 2009

Absolutely not anxious about anything.

Bleak Gremlin

zzonkmiles posted:

So when the world goes BOOM and embassy staff gets evacuated or relocated or whatever, what kind of ripple effect does that tend to have in the rest of the Foreign Service?

DS Agents everywhere shake their heads and mutter "I told you so..."

For reals though, I feel like incidents like that do little to convince people to reevaluate their careers. Everyone I knew from Tripoli, for example, came out of the experience even more committed to their work. Every individual will handle these things differently, but generally I feel like the FS is peopled by adaptable folk.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

zzonkmiles posted:

So when the world goes BOOM and embassy staff gets evacuated or relocated or whatever, what kind of ripple effect does that tend to have in the rest of the Foreign Service? Do dangerous events in one country cause unaffected FSOs in another country to think twice about staying in the FS? Does State look to increase hiring for FSOs in light of the new threats? Or do FSOs in the dangerous areas simply roll with the punches because they knew that's what they signed up for when they took that post in Baghdad or Karachi or Cairo?

World wide availability. You make that commitment when you sign up, and I think most of us understand that throughout careers. Also, when poo poo hits the fan, normally work is really exciting (all jobs), and it looks good in our EERs.

As to the rest, uh, I'm not sure how much will be discussed in an open environment.

the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

Bruxism posted:

DS Agents everywhere shake their heads and mutter "I told you so..."

For reals though, I feel like incidents like that do little to convince people to reevaluate their careers. Everyone I knew from Tripoli, for example, came out of the experience even more committed to their work. Every individual will handle these things differently, but generally I feel like the FS is peopled by adaptable folk.

Concur. If you've been through it in the same place, you get a bit of The Feels when you see it happen to others (the totally not an evac last week from Libya hit me hard), but chances are everyone will go through a drawdown of some degree or another during a career that lasts more than a few tours. so you just suck it up and hope that next time isn't so hard on you/your family.

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?
AHHHHHHH FLAG DAY IS TOMORROW AHHHHHHH

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

zzonkmiles posted:

So when the world goes BOOM and embassy staff gets evacuated or relocated or whatever, what kind of ripple effect does that tend to have in the rest of the Foreign Service? Do dangerous events in one country cause unaffected FSOs in another country to think twice about staying in the FS? Does State look to increase hiring for FSOs in light of the new threats? Or do FSOs in the dangerous areas simply roll with the punches because they knew that's what they signed up for when they took that post in Baghdad or Karachi or Cairo?

Aside from whats already been said, I am sure some experiences (or rather, what comes after the evacuation) are significantly traumatic to make some people resign. Or just bad experiences in general, accumulated, will make people want to leave.

You might get somewhere lovely, or have a really lovely experience in someplace wonderful, Worldwide Availability depends like that.... but most people want to stay in. (It's real hard to match benefits, for one! :haw: )

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

The Mantis posted:

AHHHHHHH FLAG DAY IS TODAY AHHHHHHH

No pressure or anything.

the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

Tyro posted:

No pressure or anything.

I hear Monrovia is lovely this time of year.

zzonkmiles
Mar 3, 2014

Oh, he was just arbitrarily saying stuff.

The Mantis posted:

AHHHHHHH FLAG DAY IS TOMORROW AHHHHHHH

Good luck! I can't imagine how excited and anxious you are!

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?


so pumped. AF is my jam

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Is it true they put a mind control worm in your head for new inductees

the_chavi
Mar 2, 2005

Toilet Rascal

The Mantis posted:



so pumped. AF is my jam

Kick rear end! I love Addis... and coincidentally I'm making tibs tonight for dinner.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Congrats! I can give you all the deets on Addis.

Homie S
Aug 6, 2001

This is what it means
The east african crew grows… :getin:

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
Congrats man.

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?
Thanks all! It was a wild day.

Leif. posted:

Congrats! I can give you all the deets on Addis.

Would love this! I don't ship out till June 2105, but would love any info you might have.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
I'm still working, what's your excuse for still being awake? Big flag day celebration/consolation party?

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?

Tyro posted:

I'm still working, what's your excuse for still being awake? Big flag day celebration/consolation party?

Indeed. Plus it was my birthday!

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005

The Mantis posted:

Thanks all! It was a wild day.


Would love this! I don't ship out till June 2105, but would love any info you might have.

woah, that's a hell of a training regiment your CDO gave you...

congrats on your first assignment (Ethiopia is good, i hear!)

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zzonkmiles
Mar 3, 2014

Oh, he was just arbitrarily saying stuff.
I read that two people in the June A-100 received low-bid assignments on Flag Day. Oops. Is anyone at liberty to say where they will be posted? And how did they react when the flag for one of their "low" bids was brought out and their name was called?

So how likely is it that you'll be assigned to one of your "low" assignments? Or is it most likely to happen if you list Berlin, Paris, Brussels, Rome and London as "high" while everything else is "low?"

Congratulations, Mantis! You've gone from clearance limbo to A-100 to Ethiopia-bound in just three months! So exciting! :)

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