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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Bieeardo posted:

Qube is neat up to a certain point, at which it forgets its core competencies and turns into a frustrating shitfest. For me it was a 'puzzle' that was basically an escort mission for a ball, hoping that I shot increasingly tiny hotspots in time. I don't play these games to challenge my lovely hand-eye.

Yeah, they don't seem to have a shortage of neat ideas, but they just went with some bad ones. The ball escorting is fine, but it would be a lot better if it didn't have sequences that required precise hand-eye.

What Portal's great at is that most of the puzzles are in the vein of "How do I set up this Rube Goldberg machine?" The first half of Qube rocks because it's that kind of stuff, but then it loses the plot real bad. Those magnets are an instant turn-off; just grinds the game right to a halt.

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The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Playing Soul Suspect and it's pretty cool. People weren't lying when they said the stealth poo poo is terrible, it absolutely is, although the first time I encountered it, it lasted just a couple of minutes.

I like games with little collectable story trinkets and people you can eavesdrop on and so far Soul Suspect is scratching both those itches. I'm enjoying walking through walls into people's apartments and listening to their lil slice of life, even if it amounts to just two lines of dialogue. If this game had hackable computer terminals with emails to read or diaries, it would probably be my ideal game.

The stealth poo poo though. This game would've been better off going the no-combat Gone Home route.

Delusibeta
Aug 7, 2013

Let's ride together.
It's time for another batch of Greenlight games!

In other news, if the best reviews you've got are from Polygon, Kill Screen and fuckin' Indie Game Magazine, and that's what you're promoting your game with, I conclude that your game is rubbish.

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo

Karthe posted:

Oh, Torchlight is a standard ARPG?

Yes. Other than that, you can categorize RPGS between Western RPGS and Japanese RPGS. Amalur would probably be considered your standard WRPG. In fact, my biggest complaint about it is that it's TOO standard. I can see why you would want to specify third person, but almost no RPGs are in first person.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

There's still no concrete genre title for diablo clones other than diablo clone and that's kind of weird. They're definitely action RPGs, while Amalur is also an action RPG, but in a completely different way.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

There's still no concrete genre title for diablo clones other than diablo clone and that's kind of weird. They're definitely action RPGs, while Amalur is also an action RPG, but in a completely different way.

The again, Diablo is just a roguelike…

Lance Streetman
Feb 20, 2011

A parfait is a dessert, but it is also the French word for perfect.
It's one of those weird divides between western RPGs and JRPGs. Among western RPGs, an Action RPG is usually a Diablo clone. Among JRPGs, an Action RPG is usually something like Ys or Kingdom Hearts. Amalur seems to be more of the latter, from what I've seen.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Xaris posted:

I actually just recently got really into it, and then sort of fizzled out after ~2 weeks. I still play it even though and then. It's not terribly grinding and there's a ton of heroes that all do different things which is awesome... But there just isn't really that much variety in the levels and the Daily Quests are always the same poo poo.

Yeah, everything you said is pretty accurate, I think I use the term grind for anything that's unfun, and that game did the same for me for about two weeks, then I realized I have a backlog I need to crack on with. I notice that they tagged it recently with '2015'...any changes come from that?

NeoSeeker posted:

Both metro games were released broken. My question, in a much less convoluted sense is: Are the metro games not broken as gently caress anymore, especially 2033. Oh and is ranger mode free for Last light now?

Couple of things in those paragraphs, Last Light and Metro have different difficulty scaling, so don't assume that there's equivalence there. I'll also admit to not running into bugs in either of them after launch, and I've been an inertia-driven AMD user since before PhysX arrived. I'd suggest for the price that you can't go wrong, but you _should_ wait for them to go on sale.

Yodzilla posted:

Is it the same as the tower defense portion of the first Van Helsing? That was boring as hell.

I'll admit to completely missing that. poo poo comes out of portals along some paths, and you have square trap spaces and towers that can be placed and upgraded? If that was in the first, I completely blanked it out.

Edit:

Tippis posted:

The again, Diablo is just a roguelike…

As is Borderlands....

j/k, put down the torches.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

There's still no concrete genre title for diablo clones other than diablo clone and that's kind of weird. They're definitely action RPGs, while Amalur is also an action RPG, but in a completely different way.
Weren't they called Hack and Slash RPG's usually? I know I heard that term used somewhere.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Orv posted:

Stop recommending Bound By Flame to people you goddamn animals! :argh:

It has the best rear end in a top hat protagonist though! Also I absolutely adore the look of the female Vulcan, even if her voice actress is absolutely atrocious.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Hav posted:

As is Borderlands....

j/k, put down the torches.
It doesn't have the map randomisation, but other than that… sure.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Hav posted:

I'll admit to completely missing that. poo poo comes out of portals along some paths, and you have square trap spaces and towers that can be placed and upgraded? If that was in the first, I completely blanked it out.

Yeah it was. It was easily the low point of the game.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Tippis posted:

The again, Diablo is just a roguelike…

Should I feel bad I've never played Diablo 1/2/3?

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Should I feel bad I've never played Diablo 1/2/3?

Nah. Just to annoy someone, I'd even say that they get worse for every new version and the first one was… ok:ish.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Delusibeta posted:

It's time for another batch of Greenlight games!

In other news, if the best reviews you've got are from Polygon, Kill Screen and fuckin' Indie Game Magazine, and that's what you're promoting your game with, I conclude that your game is rubbish.

A list of high up games that got skipped. Interestingly, most were vote-for-keys games. Valve getting a little tetchy with games trying to get past GL?

e:

Talking of game clones, how is Ninty not jumping all over this?

tight aspirations fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Aug 1, 2014

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Diablo 3 is my first and I'm really enjoying it. Though I did get it recently with RoS.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Azran posted:

Played both Metro games, never encountered a single glitch. Ranger mode is paid DLC still, but it goes for sale for really low so eh. The new Redux versions should make the gameplay of 2033 way better.

I found the Kshatriya mission in the Factions DLC to be so much better than the normal game though. :v:
I heard the Ranger DLC is in the game and turned off by default. It might be a simple 0 changed to 1 in some file.

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I saw people were talking about Kingdoms of Amalur the past couple pages. If I'm playing this for the first time, what are some good things to know? I'm not too far in yet. My plan is to go with daggers and just stealth kill everything, use alchemy, and speechcraft. Will that get me through the game, or am I going to hit a huge difficulty wall and be good and truly hosed?

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

americanzero4128 posted:

I saw people were talking about Kingdoms of Amalur the past couple pages. If I'm playing this for the first time, what are some good things to know? I'm not too far in yet. My plan is to go with daggers and just stealth kill everything, use alchemy, and speechcraft. Will that get me through the game, or am I going to hit a huge difficulty wall and be good and truly hosed?

Amalur is by no means a difficult game, you'll be perfectly fine.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

americanzero4128 posted:

I saw people were talking about Kingdoms of Amalur the past couple pages. If I'm playing this for the first time, what are some good things to know? I'm not too far in yet. My plan is to go with daggers and just stealth kill everything, use alchemy, and speechcraft. Will that get me through the game, or am I going to hit a huge difficulty wall and be good and truly hosed?

You'll be fine but you're able to respec fairly cheaply so mix it up every now and then. I was a big fan of two handed weapons and bow skills.

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...

Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Should I feel bad I've never played Diablo 1/2/3?

At this point you'd probably played some variant of it so its not a huge loss. But back in the day, these were the best dungeon crawlers on the market.

revdrkevind
Dec 15, 2013
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Should I feel bad I've never played Diablo 1/2/3?

Diablo 1 has a pretty cool singleplayer game with excellent atmosphere thanks to the amazing sound/music and decent story. I still get a nostalgic feeling when I hear the overworld music, and there are a few quests that are very rewarding if you've really dug into the on-screen texts. It's a very immersive experience, worth putting on some headphones and really dedicating some time to enjoying (especially thanks to some amazing use of stereo effects- yes use headphones if you can). The final battle kind of sucks as (non-spoiler) Diablo has one attack that just spams the screen for massive damage so you're either properly leveled or... not. But the vast majority of the game rocks.

IMHO, Diablo 2/3 are very bland and MMO and riding on coattails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvvXsreyo30
:allears:

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

Scalding Coffee posted:

I heard the Ranger DLC is in the game and turned off by default. It might be a simple 0 changed to 1 in some file.

Yes, that is right. I forgot.

BobTheJanitor
Jun 28, 2003

Jonathan Yeah! posted:

A list of high up games that got skipped. Interestingly, most were vote-for-keys games. Valve getting a little tetchy with games trying to get past GL?

Kind of surprised that Valve is still doing any kind of gatekeeping, considering the new releases list has been 90% dross lately. Seems like just greenlighting the top 100 games every month would be more in character with their laissez faire attitude.

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.
Honestly after Diablo 3, if a Diablo clone still uses the old style skill tree of "level 1 spell does 6-18 damage" all the way to "level 20 spell deals 114-148 damage" I give up. Scaling the spell according to gear like they did in WoW and Diablo is such a smarter way to do it rather than copying and pasting spell ranks. Do people still do that? Last I checked this was still the case in Torchlight 2.

Kly
Aug 8, 2003

Diablo 3 did basically everything better than all the other ARPGs around other than the force-fed story and itemization. PoE and Torchlight 2 (even modded) are incredibly dull experiences compared to D3, even Pre-RoS.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

There's still no concrete genre title for diablo clones other than diablo clone and that's kind of weird. They're definitely action RPGs, while Amalur is also an action RPG, but in a completely different way.

I nominate TARP, the Third-person Action Role Player.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Anonymous Robot posted:

I nominate TARP, the Third-person Action Role Player.

They're isometric though. :confused:

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Huh, looking at that Sacred 3 stuff it appears some of the devs behind the first 2 games are making a spiritual sequel that was called Unsacred but now has the fairly ridiculous name Unbended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sweyq22HhXs

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

Orv posted:

They're isometric though. :confused:

Isometric is third person, though?

Fine, have it your way.

I TAR-PIG, the Isometric Third-person Action Role-Playing Interactive Game.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

can you remove the dumb you are now leaving steam warning

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Davincie posted:

can you remove the dumb you are now leaving steam warning
not that i can tell

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I'm pretty close to buying Crypt of the Necrodancer because it looks fun as hell and I'm a sucker for not-roguelike-but-roguelike games like Spelunky and Dredmor, but I'm wondering if the game is really worth $15 or if I could maybe hold off on it.

I've gotten more than $15 out of Spelunky and Dredmor, but Necrodancer just looks really fast-paced to the point where it might be too short to justify $15.

Male Man
Aug 16, 2008

Im, too sexy for your teatime
Too sexy for your teatime
That tea that you're just driiinkiing

Davincie posted:

can you remove the dumb you are now leaving steam warning

Best answer I've found is to use a Greasemonkey script to bypass the page. It sure would be nice to have a "I have barely enough impulse control to read a URL before pawing at it with my monkey fists" checkbox.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Geokinesis posted:

Huh, looking at that Sacred 3 stuff it appears some of the devs behind the first 2 games are making a spiritual sequel that was called Unsacred but now has the fairly ridiculous name Unbended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sweyq22HhXs

Not as bad as Ridge Racer Unbounded but holy hell that's a bad name.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

King Vidiot posted:

I'm pretty close to buying Crypt of the Necrodancer because it looks fun as hell and I'm a sucker for not-roguelike-but-roguelike games like Spelunky and Dredmor, but I'm wondering if the game is really worth $15 or if I could maybe hold off on it.

I've gotten more than $15 out of Spelunky and Dredmor, but Necrodancer just looks really fast-paced to the point where it might be too short to justify $15.

The game is really hard, so it will take some time to master it. Spelunky is also really short with people able to beat it in minutes (the world record is less than 2 minutes). It will probably take a long time for you to be able to beat it, and there are a lot of unlockables along the way, with plenty of unlockable characters and poo poo adding to the replayability. Also, it's just really goddamn fun.

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 2, 2014

Ryuga Death
May 14, 2008

There's gotta be one more bell to crack
Fun Shoe
It helps that Crypt has most of its levels/zones done already. It's only missing Zone 4 and endboss, according to the EA FAQ.

saucerman
Mar 20, 2009

Male Man posted:

Best answer I've found is to use a Greasemonkey script to bypass the page. It sure would be nice to have a "I have barely enough impulse control to read a URL before pawing at it with my monkey fists" checkbox.

I never see that page. Is it a feature in Enhanced Steam?

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
Speaking of the Metro games, I've noticed that both Metro 2033 & Metro: Last Light have Redux versions coming out in August. The page description says that 2033 will be updated into the same engine as Last Light, but does anyone know if Last Last Redux will have any changes, other than the inclusion of all the DLC?

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Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

Karthe posted:

Check, check, and check. Maybe I need to give up my "only play games once for the story" policy and go replay some of these. :sigh:

did you say you already had finished Divinity 2? because if you asked me for Amalur but better that comes instantly to mind.

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