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No see the part about him looking for a friend is actually just a mistranslation, Link just accidentally fell in a hole to an alternate dimension while running from the crazy Zora girl who was insisting they were married.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Prima guide confirms there are still a handful of playable characters we haven't seen yet Cia, Volvagia man and Wizzrobe would, unless I'm mistaken, make for 16 total playable characters, so I imagine they're the remainder.
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Comrade Fakename posted:The idea that the five main areas of Termina represent the 5 stages of grief is pretty compelling though. I mean, Clocktown so obviously represents denial that I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't notice it before. This article goes into more depth about this but it's not really some kind of alternative "LINK WAS DREAMING THE WHOLE TIME!"-style interpretation as much as it is a cool underlying theme/symbol they threw into the game. Majora's Mask is really all about death so it fits. The entire LoZ series has been filled with metaphors, supernatural imagery and mythological folklore since its inception. Some of it might be lost on Western players but it's fairly interesting to see the level of thought put into each game. For instance, the seven sages can be traced back to the seven seers who helped Brahma create the universe while the Kokiri conjure up imagery of Peter Pan. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Captain Mog posted:This article Wow whoever wrote this is REALLY good at making poo poo up
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greatn posted:If you save the bomb shop lady Yakon will not appear later on the third day to open his hideout. You can use a glitch to get in to Sakon's hideout (I believe you clip through a crack in the door), but I don't know if it works if he isn't loaded on the map. If it did, though, then would it be possible to complete everything in one cycle?
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LightningSquid posted:You can use a glitch to get in to Sakon's hideout (I believe you clip through a crack in the door), but I don't know if it works if he isn't loaded on the map. If it did, though, then would it be possible to complete everything in one cycle? Would you be able to get through the obstacle course inside? That would be the main issue I would think.
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Captain Mog posted:the Kokiri conjure up imagery of Peter Pan. I mean did anybody honestly not notice this, though?
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Aug 7, 2014 20:48
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PantsBandit posted:Would you be able to get through the obstacle course inside? That would be the main issue I would think. Yeah, when you get into the hideout Kafei and everything else spawns normally. I believe that they showed it in ThornBrain's LP, he used the glitch to repeat the event after failing it and everything went as if he had entered via Sakon.
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Aug 7, 2014 20:55
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Can we please go back to talking about fin bras?
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Dunban posted:Can we please go back to talking about fin bras? Give me a few more days to finish my thesis on the subject.
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Dunban posted:Can we please go back to talking about fin bras? I'm boycotting nintendo until they end this disgusting censorship.
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Dunban posted:Can we please go back to talking about fin bras? The fin bra represents deforestation.
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The ritual for summoning supermechagodzilla to the thread is almost complete!
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Blackheart posted:The ritual for summoning supermechagodzilla to the thread is almost complete! The correct ending of Link's Awakening would be for Link to join the nightmares and create a paradise for the common dream, free from the fascist control of the Wind Fish.
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The only interesting theory I've read about Majora's Mask is the one about the Stone Tower Temple existing to defile the goddesses.
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TBH I think all the different theories about Majora's Mask are pretty neat and it's real weird people get all upset about them. Relax
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Bicyclops posted:I mean did anybody honestly not notice this, though? I... I didn't...  It makes a lot of loving sense, though.
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LAY-ZX posted:Wow whoever wrote this is REALLY good at making poo poo up quote:Only by singing the tune born from her offspring, by reestablishing a connection to what was lost through vocal expression, can Lulu come out of her slump. In a way we can make yet another comparison to a type of maternal depression - that experienced by young mothers who have miscarried. The act of naming the lost child can lead to a sense of closure. Here, the act of singing - each note representing one of the eggs - accomplishes the same.  I'll second(third?) that it's dumb when people's go-to interpretations of fiction are "the stuff shown to happen didn't actually happen, it was ACTUALLY THIS OTHER THING WITH KINDA SIMILAR THEMES"
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Bicyclops posted:Like, yes, death and loss are both central to MM and many of the important characters are ghosts experiencing regret but "Link is dead and processing his own grief over his death" is exceedingly boring. Link is always the player avatar and it's why he doesn't speak. "You're dead, learn to accept it" is not engaging fiction compared with a plethora of other interpretations. I really like this. It also puts the Anju/Kafei quest, probably the biggest and most important sidequest in the game, in perspective. The parallel between Kafei being turned into a kid and Link was always fairly obvious, especially since (if I recall correctly) Kafei seems to be the closest thing to Termina's hero. This connection is enhanced by Kafei being controllable. Anju's confusion at why Kafei disappeared could be seen as Link's adult side's confusion at what happened, and an inability to accept his true self for what it is. Kafei's deliberate hiding from Anju can be seen as his new non-heroic child self being unable to come to terms with his old Hero of Time adult life. By reuniting them you finally reconcile Link's life before Zelda's time fuckery and his new life where he's stuck as a kid. You can also see Anju as all the people Link met over his journey, and his desire for them to still love him even though he'll never meet most of them now -- though the entirety of Termina itself perhaps represents that better what with all the clones. (Sidenote: I just noticed the similar color theming between Kafei and Ravio, when both of them are strong analogues for Link himself). Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Majora's Mask has themes out the wazoo, and while it's possible to force everything into a single allegorical interpretation such as Link trying in vain to regain the symbol of his lost innocence, that allegory would still be less interesting than the particulars. The game is obviously about loss itself - loss of all kinds - and as a result it's deliberately vague on the point of what was lost. Link is there for the player to identify with, and what Link lost is the same sort of thing as whatever the player remembers losing. So you could say he lost his childhood, he lost his purpose, he lost his friend, he lost his life, and be right. Hell, the game starts in the Lost Woods - whatever he was looking for, what he really lost (and managed to find again) was himself, in his grief.
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NA dudes, preorder costume info: OOT costumes are at Gamestop, TP costumes are at Amazon, SS costumes are probably at Best Buy.
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loving hell, Best Buy? Worst choice.
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Gonna wait for the GOTY edition if that's the case.
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ImpAtom posted:loving hell, Best Buy? Worst choice. That's not confirmed, just a guess based on NOA's hardon for Best Buy.
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Aaaaagh what the gently caress is this garbage.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:NA dudes, preorder costume info: OOT costumes are at Gamestop, TP costumes are at Amazon, SS costumes are probably at Best Buy. Really wanted to buy this digital. Now I may buy it at Best Buy or Gamestop.
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There's no reason to think you won't be able to just buy the costumes later on.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:There's no reason to think you won't be able to just buy the costumes later on. That's why I'm kind hoping they do a GOTY edition like they did with Sonic Lost Worlds. All the stuff they released was contained on the disc.
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ChaosArgate posted:Aaaaagh what the gently caress is this garbage. I really don't like this "exclusive content" horseshit at three different loving retailers.
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At the very least, I prefer exclusive costumes to exclusive weapons/levels.
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Jsor posted:At the very least, I prefer exclusive costumes to exclusive weapons/levels. Yeah, they're just costumes, I don't see what the big deal is. Just pick your favorite and be content in the knowledge that the others will probably be made available later if you really need them. e: On that note, are there any good comparison shots of all three DLC costume sets side-by-side?
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LAY-ZX posted:Wow whoever wrote this is REALLY good at making poo poo up now try this one http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/the_message_of_majoras_mask1
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Retailer exclusive outfits continue to be stupid as all hell more at 11. Good thing I only care about the OoT Link outfit. Skyward Sword Zelda never really did anything for me and I found her kind of boring outside the intro so don't care that I'm missing out on that and HW link just looks like a cooler version of SS's. Twilight Princess continues to look muddy so whatever.
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TP costumes are the only ones I really care about and I was planning to order from Amazon anyway, so lucky me.
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I'm just gonna sell my pre-order code on ebay and make some cash from obsessive Nintendo Nerds who need to have all the costumes.
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try living in europe where you don't even get the chance to get the retailer-exclusive poo poo
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FutureFriend posted:try living in europe where you don't even get the chance to get the retailer-exclusive poo poo 
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I remember a fat kid in my high school math class explaining how Majora's Mask was Link's dream during the seven years after he pulled the Master Sword--y'know, while Hyrule was going to poo poo and Rauru was piercing his ears or whatever. I never really bought it, but I thought it was a neat idea.
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So if you buy from Nintendo direct on the eShop where they get the most money anyway, gently caress you.
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