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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
I'm totally telling the truth guys.

For reals.

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Maybe poopanal is a lying liar.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Hey Rascyc

Hey

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


##vote asiina Cool

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
:ghost: thank god I'm free of this living hell :ghost:

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
lol

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Asiina was lynched. He was the Godfather.

Night whatever-it-is. Send me your PMs to use your abilities. Night will end when everyone sends their ability usage or when 24 hours pass. Whichever comes first.


Votecount for Day 4

Asiina (4): Rascyc, Magres, Jamuraan, Opopanax
Jamuraan (1): Rascyc, Rascyc, goodness
goodness (1): Asiina, Magres, Jamuraan, Magres, Jamuraan

Not Voting (1): uranus

Zesty fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Aug 8, 2014

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Met posted:

Asiina was lynched. He was the Godfather.

Night whatever-it-is. Send me your PMs to use your abilities.


She.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Xhe.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Opopanax was found with a bullet in the head. He was the Absorber.

Begin Day 5!


Votecount for Day 5

Not Voting (5): goodness, Jamuraan, Magres, Rascyc, uranus

With 5 alive, it's 3 votes to lynch. The current deadline is August 11th, 2014 at 7:55 a.m. CDT -- that's in about 2 days.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
goodness is evil ##vote goodness

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Watched Opop, visited by Goodness and Goodness alone

##vote goodness

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
Yup rb'ed Jam.

##vote goodness

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Yay!

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
I really wonder if more experienced scum could have pulled this off or if it was inevitable.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Pretty inevitable

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Like we got kinda lucky dunking the neutrals early, but this was a really easy setup to solve

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Everyone being able to confirm everyone else's role made this basically impossible for us to do anything. Even if people didn't mass claim on D1, it was always, always going to come down to claims by the end game and who didn't have a verified claim.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
If roles could be doubled up and didn't have a set number (or cap) per category it'd make it a lot harder for us to just logic puzzle it out

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
goodness was lynched. He was a Framer.

Congratulations Town. You turned the nearly unbeatable hand you were dealt into a victory.

Next Role Madness game I run will be much more balanced. Thanks to those that suffered through it!


Mafia Chat

Mafia Master Doc

Godfather- Asiina
Framer- goodness
Agent- CapitalistPig
Mayor- Juanito
Sheriff- uranus
Watcher- Magres
Vigilante- Jamuraan
Absorber- Opopanax
Escort- Rascyc
Doctor- Crazyeyes
Bodyguard- Tearshed
Arsonist- mr.capps
Witch- Kumbamontu
Executioner- Poison Mushroom (target: Rascyc)


~Night 1

Godfather- Asiina: MAFIA KILLS Tearshed
Framer- goodness (*ROLEBLOCKED*, Roll 1/3 for Mafia kill failure) FRAME Rascyc ("Failed")
Agent- CapitalistPig (AGENT Rascyc)
Mayor- Juanito: (PROTECTED), (Witch Controlled/Targeted, No Effect), (WATCHED)
Sheriff- uranus: SHERIFF Opopanex (*"Good"*)
Watcher- Magres: WATCH Juanito
Vigilante- Jamuraan
Absorber- Opopanax: (SHERIFFED)
Escort- Rascyc: ROLLBLOCK Goodness, (*DOUSED*), (BODYGUARDED), (AGENT)
Doctor- Crazyeyes: PROTECT Juanito
Bodyguard- Tearshed: BODYGUARD Rascyc (*Mafia Killed*)
Arsonist- mr.capps: DOUSE Rascyc
Witch- Kumbamontu: CONTROL Juanito, TARGET Juanito


Night 2

Godfather- Asiina: MAFIA KILLS Juanito
Framer- goodness: FRAMES Rascyc
Agent- CapitalistPig: AGENTS goodness
Mayor- Juanito: (*MAFIA KILLED*)
Sheriff- uranus: SHERIFF Juanito ("Good", Interrupted by Witch, "Good")
Watcher- Magres: WATCH Opop (SHERIFFED, Witch)
Vigilante- Jamuraan
Absorber- Opopanax: (WATCHED), SHERIFF Kumba ("Evil")
Escort- Rascyc: ROLEBLOCK Crazyeyes
Doctor- Crazyeyes: (*ROLLBLOCKED*) PROTECT CapitalistPig ("Fail")
Witch- Kumbamontu: CONTROL Opopanax, TARGET Magres


Night 3

Godfather- Asiina (Rollblocked, roll 1/3) MAFIA KILL Crazyeyes
Framer- goodness: FRAME Uranus
Agent- CapitalistPig (SHERIFFED), (*VIG KILLED*), AGENT Magres
Sheriff- uranus: (SHERIFF CapitalistPig, "Evil"), (FRAMED)
Watcher- Magres: (WATCH Opop) (AGENTED)
Vigilante- Jamuraan: VIG CapitalistPig
Absorber- Opopanax (WATCHED) (PROTECTED)
Escort- Rascyc (ROLLBLOCk Asiina)
Doctor- Crazyeyes (*MAFIA KILLED) PROTECT Opop


Night 4

Mafia- goodness MAFIA KILL Opop
Sheriff- uranus (SHERIFF goodness, "Evil")
Watcher- Magres (Protected) WATCH Opop
Vigilante- Jamuraan
Absorber- Opopanax (PROTECT Magres) (*MAFIA KILLED*) (WATCHED)
Escort- Rascyc (ROLLBLOCk Jam)

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, I suppose I'll post the Scumdoc but basically as I've said to Met that having a list of possible roles isn't necessarily bad but knowing exactly how many of each role is what screwed us.

Also an absorber which could verify which role was active in each slot was a huge issue since it left no room for counterclaiming.

I had forgotten about Opop's cop, but I didn't want to directly 1v1 counterclaim derp since unless you guys believed me and killed him and then killed me and then goodness counterclaimed vig and you guys killed Jam before him then that's the only way we could have pulled this off and it just wasn't going to happen.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Pretty much town would have had to have been asleep at the wheel for us to win this.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Asiina posted:

Also an absorber which could verify which role was active in each slot was a huge issue since it left no room for counterclaiming.

Totally agree. I threw it in because it looked neat and I wanted one more role in that category, and the during the first nightphase I realized how insanely overpowered it would be.

The role could still potentially work without showing the setup, but it's still quite strong.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
thanks for the game met! i had fun :)

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I'm glad I was able to singlehandedly win the game

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Thanks for running!

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!
You need to use Town Random sprinkled with a few core roles to make the game harder to solve. I love the roles of SC2-Mafia and how they mesh together.

ninja edit; Big no-no was Poison admitting who their target was after they died, it confirmed Ras as town and it was the deciding force behind my night action (not that it mattered in the end).

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
Thanks for modding, I had fun.

Cpig once had a lightning rod/absorber in a much bigger game, except it didn't work on every role (a cute curveball), and it worked out well there.

Jamuraan
Oct 10, 2005

Jamuraan, J.D. in Critical Reasoning and Logic
Ask me about how good I am at party games! Please god ask me about how good I am at party games!
Everyone I wanted to vig kill throughout the game ended up being scum or non-town, but I'm glad I saved it until I did.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
I had fun! Thanks met.

Though this was almost unwinnable for scum.

I think we'd have had a better chance if I didn't eat the vig, good job jam. :hfive:

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
I try to remove dice rolls as much as I can in favor of players making the decisions. I currently don't know how I'm going to have the Mafia kill performed. As it was, every time a Mafia member was rollblocked, I rolled a 1/x chance that the Mafia kill fails. (x being the number of Mafia) Perhaps I'll have the Mafia decide which of their own they'll send for the kill. What do you guys think?

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
That's usually how I've seen it done, is they decide on a particular person and that person can either use their ability or go do the kill.

I think a lightning rod/absorber isn't necessarily a bad role, there just have to be restrictions on it.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Yeah we pretty much always have stuff like the kill assigned to a specific person. Makes your job a lot easier

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Opopanax posted:

Yeah we pretty much always have stuff like the kill assigned to a specific person. Makes your job a lot easier

I run a role madness game. I clearly do not care about the amount of work to end a night phase.

A specific person performing the kill makes it easy for a roleblocker to completely shut down the Mafia.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Town RB is a rare role, but it's also part of the strategy of it all. RB has to hit the exact right person. You can also always balance with stuff like juggernauts

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Yeah but they can choose a different person each time if they want.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Ooh, that's what he thought I meant. Yeah not a designated killer or anything, you can choose the same persona all the time or a different one each night

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Opopanax posted:

Ooh, that's what he thought I meant. Yeah not a designated killer or anything, you can choose the same persona all the time or a different one each night

Oh okay.

If anyone has any suggestions for a role, any fun Mafia roles or townie disruption type roles would be good.

I'm not too sure if anyone would be particularly interested in a passive ability unless it's particularly exciting.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Nexus :getin:

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Brutal Doctor :qq:

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