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EugeneJ posted:That match sucked and I will not hear otherwise Lesnar/Angle, then.
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That match was fun just for Lesnar taking the route of beating Angle stupid with a chair, eating the DQ and then pinning him like three times because he'd just been beaten with a chair.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:11
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I think i liked the rock/hhh one but I don't remember much about it so maybe not. hbk/bret was really boring to me but I watched it like 12 years after the fact.
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I was watching when it happened, but I don't remember: how did Chris Jericho and Chyna wind up being co-Intercontinental champions?
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Aug 10, 2014 02:52
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ZDar Fan posted:I was watching when it happened, but I don't remember: how did Chris Jericho and Chyna wind up being co-Intercontinental champions? They pinned one another simultaneously.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:57
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So with the Miz's new Hollywood/Johnny Cage gimmick I was thinking about back in the attitude era how many guys would gradually change their characters until they were completely different. Like Mankind going from psycho to lovable underdog or The Ultimate Fighter Kama slowly becoming the Godfather. The Miz has done this over the course of his career but I can't think of many other performers right now making that many changes. But please correct me, which wrestlers in the current roster have made changes to their character that you can point to?
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Spikeguy posted:So with the Miz's new Hollywood/Johnny Cage gimmick I was thinking about back in the attitude era how many guys would gradually change their characters until they were completely different. Like Mankind going from psycho to lovable underdog or The Ultimate Fighter Kama slowly becoming the Godfather. The Miz has done this over the course of his career but I can't think of many other performers right now making that many changes. But please correct me, which wrestlers in the current roster have made changes to their character that you can point to? Kane was a scary Demon once. Then he put away his mask and became all corporate. In a twist of fate, he regained his mask and became The Demon Kane. Then he gave up his mask again.
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Spikeguy posted:So with the Miz's new Hollywood/Johnny Cage gimmick I was thinking about back in the attitude era how many guys would gradually change their characters until they were completely different. Like Mankind going from psycho to lovable underdog or The Ultimate Fighter Kama slowly becoming the Godfather. The Miz has done this over the course of his career but I can't think of many other performers right now making that many changes. But please correct me, which wrestlers in the current roster have made changes to their character that you can point to? John Cena, most obviously. There was no single big moment where he went from the Doctor of Thuganomics rapper to the Marine to whatever he is now.
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Aug 10, 2014 03:28
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Aside from Brutus Beefcake, who's had the most names / gimmicks over the course of their career?
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Aug 10, 2014 03:29
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Ghostpilot posted:Aside from Brutus Beefcake, who's had the most names / gimmicks over the course of their career? IRS?
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Aug 10, 2014 03:43
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Ghostpilot posted:Aside from Brutus Beefcake, who's had the most names / gimmicks over the course of their career? Bossman?
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Aug 10, 2014 03:45
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Cody Rhodes is rackin' em up at an impressive pace.
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Steve Lombardi has to be up there.
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When the hell did IRS ever use this theme? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGJvlZxKnOE When I was a kid I always remembered him coming out to no music, but in the video games he always had a theme song that sounded like a stock ticker/typewriter, which I'm assuming is based on the above song. Was he maybe supposed to debut as Michael Wallstreet before Vince changed his gimmick?
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Aug 10, 2014 03:50
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Barry Darsow.
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Nut Bunnies posted:Probably the steroids Ghostpilot posted:Aside from Brutus Beefcake, who's had the most names / gimmicks over the course of their career?
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Aug 10, 2014 04:13
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Does CMLL do iPPVs? I can pretty much see all of AAA via their official YouTube and iPPV, and I can see individual matches from CMLL via a Dailymotion site, but I'm not even going to bother following them if I can't see their big shows/PPVs. I've been watching AAA for a month or two and I really like it.
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Burt Buckle posted:Does CMLL do iPPVs? I can pretty much see all of AAA via their official YouTube and iPPV, and I can see individual matches from CMLL via a Dailymotion site, but I'm not even going to bother following them if I can't see their big shows/PPVs. iirc terra.com streams the first half of their friday arena mexico shows.
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:iirc terra.com streams the first half of their friday arena mexico shows. They stopped doing that a few weeks ago. Luigi Thirty posted:I thought CMLL was dying and their attendance was at record lows? They're struggling badly with their normal shows and might be in real deep poo poo if they didn't own their buildings. They can still pack in great crowds for big shows though. They're teasing/promising an Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero apuestas match again this year for their big anniversary show and Meltzer expects it to be a record gate for them. Thauros fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:I thought CMLL was dying and their attendance was at record lows? It'd be really hard for them to die because they own the buildings they run in and can charge nice fees for indie groups to use Mistico II. However it is getting really tough for talent to make a living because they get paid on a percentage of the gate.
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Thauros posted:They're struggling badly with their normal shows and might be in real deep poo poo if they didn't own their buildings. They can still pack in great crowds for big shows though. They're teasing/promising an Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero apuestas match again this year for their big anniversary show and Meltzer expects it to be a record gate for them. Hopefully they follow through this time. I wonder where they go from here. It seems like Atlantis/UG is their last money match up and the younger guys featured in Idolo are too raw to be in top angles as of yet.
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Aug 10, 2014 05:22
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Iron Man matches don't stink because they're long, they stink because there's no drama. I've seen 30 minute iron man matches that weren't any good.
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MassRafTer posted:It'd be really hard for them to die because they own the buildings they run in and can charge nice fees for indie groups to use Mistico II. However it is getting really tough for talent to make a living because they get paid on a percentage of the gate.
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Burt Buckle posted:Does CMLL do iPPVs? I can pretty much see all of AAA via their official YouTube and iPPV, and I can see individual matches from CMLL via a Dailymotion site, but I'm not even going to bother following them if I can't see their big shows/PPVs. As far as I know they don't do PPVs? All the big matches make TV a week or so after the fact and then thecubsfan's YouTube/DailyMotion like a week after that. The average match quality there is hardly great so I'm fine just watching the good stuff.
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What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate? For example, when I was younger in the late 80s/early 90s, I hated Ted DiBiase because he was rich and used his money to humiliate people and do things like buy the WWF title. Also, he was a coward. Now, of course, I realize just how brilliant his gimmick was and how incredibly he sold it every second he was on screen. I also found Owen Hart to be boring, his promos cheesy and barely paid attention to his wrestling. As I grew up, I saw that the cheese was part of the charm and that he was great in the ring.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate? I learned.
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Goldust made me uncomfortable as a kid, so I hated him. Now I get that that's like the whole point.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin. I thought his in-ring style was the drizzling shits, and he was the idol of everyone I hated in high school.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Goldust made me uncomfortable as a kid, so I hated him. Now I get that that's like the whole point. The original version of Goldust makes me uncomfortable as an adult because of how obvious it is that it's cheap homophobic heel heat. Some of the segments with him, like molesting an unconscious Taker while the audience screams "human being!", are really disgusting to watch.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate? As a kid I hated edge. His chickenshit heeling was the best heeling at the time, and I was a dumb kid who fell for it all. I now see why I hated him - he was good at it and nobody else was. Dude ruled in retrospect.
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I hated the Rock, because he kept beating up Mankind and Mankind was just the best.
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Another Person posted:As a kid I hated edge. His chickenshit heeling was the best heeling at the time, and I was a dumb kid who fell for it all. I now see why I hated him - he was good at it and nobody else was. Dude ruled in retrospect.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate? Jacques Rougeau, or both The Quebecers in general. I hated them so much when Bret and Owen couldn't get the belts off them, and now that I look back they're both hilarious to watch(OSW sort of helped bring Jacques back to my memory at least). Conversely, Pierre helped me learn how much of a scumbag HBK was back in the day.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate? Jeff Jarrett. Obviously the Double J gimmick in WWE sucked, but from CH-CH-CHOSEN ONE onwards, he's been great. Really underrated in the ring too. Blasmeister posted:Heel-run Jericho did something similar. He'd come up with heel mannerisms, and if any of them started to actually get over with the crowd (like "ASK HIM!") he'd immediately stop doing them. Same reason JBL stopped doing the fallaway slam too. Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Perigryn posted:He himself said that whenever he starts getting cheered, he goes out of his way to make them turn against him to maintain his heel heat. Heel-run Jericho did something similar. He'd come up with heel mannerisms, and if any of them started to actually get over with the crowd (like "ASK HIM!") he'd immediately stop doing them.
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I wasn't even a kid and Edge was still so good at heeling I hated him.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Jeff Jarrett. Obviously the Double J gimmick in WWE sucked, but from CH-CH-CHOSEN ONE onwards, he's been great. Really underrated in the ring too. I never thought I'd like JJ and yet here we are. Once they ditch the Country Singer gimmick he gets better, and he's a genuinely good wrestler too. It's just a shame that by the time it all started to click he was left by the wayside. I think I asked this exact same question in the thread a few weeks ago but there's a ton of guys that thanks to the Network, or stuff like OSW review, I've come to appreciate. Rude is one, DiBiase I love now, Owen, Boss Man, The Rougeau Brothers, Perfect. The list goes on. In a lot of ways I admire the mid-card guys more than the main folks.
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TheJoker138 posted:I wasn't even a kid and Edge was still so good at heeling I hated him. Edge was the top heel when I came back to watching WWE in 08. Edge was too goddamn good. Save_Us.RatedRSuperstar
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