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Fermented Piss posted:I mean Anal oval office were clearly being satirical. Demoniac was tongue-in-cheek too and it really seems like she's pretending to be caremad for clicks and attention
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Aug 10, 2014 11:54
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She seems kinda dumb for taking metal lyrics seriously and pretending that music can seriously influence people.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:07
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Since Kim Kelly normally knows her stuff, I assumed the article was just a pisstake of the controversy around Inquisition.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:26
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ElectricWizard posted:Since Kim Kelly normally knows her stuff, I assumed the article was just a pisstake of the controversy around Inquisition. What was the controversy around Inquisition?
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Aug 10, 2014 15:45
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Kvlt! posted:What was the controversy around Inquisition? They got exposed as Nazis a while back by a guy that drove a tour bus on a tour that they were on. They denied it in a very awkward interview. This despite that it's been pretty well known for a while that they were nazis. I mean the singer has a side project called 88MM.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:20
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hellocruelworld posted:They got exposed as Nazis a while back by a guy that drove a tour bus on a tour that they were on. They denied it in a very awkward interview. This despite that it's been pretty well known for a while that they were nazis. I mean the singer has a side project called 88MM. Also Antichrist Kramer is pretty damning as well with his posts on NWN. They are both clearly Nazis, and Inquisition now that they are on SoM are trying to escape it, but they are hitting lots of road blocks.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:30
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Uh-oh, people are offended by black metal *and* entertainment news coverage of it. Where's the line to have my t-shirt collection audited?
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Aug 10, 2014 17:17
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Killsion posted:Also Antichrist Kramer is pretty damning as well with his posts on NWN. They are both clearly Nazis, and Inquisition now that they are on SoM are trying to escape it, but they are hitting lots of road blocks. SoM? I personally don't really care if BM bands are Nazi, I listen to them all the same. Granted, I hate Nazis and all that they stand for but music is music.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:53
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Kvlt! posted:SoM? Season of Mist, relatively "major" label when metal is concerned. I used to not mind it, but it eventually started bugging me, so it's always nice to me to see some leftist and anarcho bands pop up, largely coming from hardcore backgrounds.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:20
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Oh yeah, I love a ton of SoM bands but for some reason that just didn't compute for me lol.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:23
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What's even better about this Kim Kelly mess is that a week or two before releasing that Dragonforce interview, Stereogum published a piece where she let Bolzer handwave their swastika tattoos and Nazi imagery.
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Aug 10, 2014 22:56
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Killsion posted:Season of Mist, relatively "major" label when metal is concerned. Speaking of lefty/anarcho type BM, I finally checked out the new Panopticon and it's really wonderful. I'm enjoying it a hell of a lot. Especially "In Silence". I'm a bit on the fence with Nachtmystium. First time I listened, it sounded like variations on the same riff for 55 mins, and not in an interesting/intentional way. It gets better with subsequent listens, but lacks the bite of some of his other stuff.
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Aug 10, 2014 23:13
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nomapple posted:Speaking of lefty/anarcho type BM, I finally checked out the new Panopticon and it's really wonderful. I'm enjoying it a hell of a lot. Especially "In Silence". I'm a bit on the fence with Nachtmystium. First time I listened, it sounded like variations on the same riff for 55 mins, and not in an interesting/intentional way. It gets better with subsequent listens, but lacks the bite of some of his other stuff. I'm a longtime fan of Panopticon, but I'm a little on the fence about the new one. Austin has become a much better player over the course of his albums but I think it's working against him on this record as a lot of the compositions seem strangled by technically proficient but totally needless instrumentation-- endless drum fills, sweep picking, etc. Also, "The Long Road I" is bad. It's bad bluegrass. I've enjoyed the Appalachian elements when they're incorporated (the fiddles in The Long Road II are awesome!) but as a straight-up bluegrass player he can't hack it. e: listening again right now and I think the first song is the worst offender in terms of being incredibly overly busy, but good god he gets Garth Algar-level excited on the drums when songs climax
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Aug 11, 2014 00:42
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New Xothist is finally out and it's amazing and free.
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Aug 11, 2014 00:57
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skasion posted:New Xothist is finally out and it's amazing and free. A little too noisey for my tastes, but drat good nonetheless. I certainly dig it! Kvlt! fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 03:26
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Pretty decent DSBM from a band called MOONKNIGHT. Presumably, no relation to the Marvel Comics character.
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Aug 11, 2014 04:36
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So George from everyone's favorite black metal band Deafheaven started his own record label, All Black Recording Company, and the first release is Black Monolith - Passenger. This is easily in my top 10 so far. Just really well done mixture of atmospheric black metal with blackened crust. http://blackmonolith.bandcamp.com/album/passenger
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I'm listening to the Human Serpent debut and it's sounding cool so far: https://humanserpent.bandcamp.com/album/the-gradual-immersion-in-nihilism e: ok i decided to buy the tape because hey why not and it includes a bandcamp download but the download isn't the whole album, just the 4 tracks they have streaming on the page. that's kinda lovely A human heart fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Aug 12, 2014 12:50
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apophenium posted:Pretty decent DSBM from a band called MOONKNIGHT. Presumably, no relation to the Marvel Comics character. I'm pretty sure it is actually named for Moon Knight, Roach is a comics buff. New album is really good anyway, anything the Harassor guys have done is gonna be at least kind of interesting.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:09
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Killsion posted:So George from everyone's favorite black metal band Deafheaven started his own record label, All Black Recording Company, and the first release is Black Monolith - Passenger. This is easily in my top 10 so far. Just really well done mixture of atmospheric black metal with blackened crust. Yeah I really enjoy this as well. Feel like I've been waiting forever for it. Monkeytime posted:I'm a longtime fan of Panopticon, but I'm a little on the fence about the new one. Austin has become a much better player over the course of his albums but I think it's working against him on this record as a lot of the compositions seem strangled by technically proficient but totally needless instrumentation-- endless drum fills, sweep picking, etc. Also, "The Long Road I" is bad. It's bad bluegrass. I've enjoyed the Appalachian elements when they're incorporated (the fiddles in The Long Road II are awesome!) but as a straight-up bluegrass player he can't hack it. Yeah I think Austin gets better with every album. I really didn't get the hype until around the time that Social Disservices came out, and have enjoyed that, and everything since. I can't really comment on the "bad bluegrass" because I don't listen to enough bluegrass to know what good bluegrass sounds like, but I do enjoy that entire suite of songs. I think he blends his influences better on this album than on Kentucky overall. I see what you mean about some of his songs being overly busy though, I felt that more with Kentucky (Bodies Under the Falls especially) than with this one. I really like the simplicity of the songs he did for the second split with Wheels Within Wheels. Speaking of the split stuff, the songs Falls of Rauros did for their split with him are excellent and definitely bode well for the new album!
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Aug 12, 2014 22:34
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blue.eyed.ash posted:What's even better about this Kim Kelly mess is that a week or two before releasing that Dragonforce interview, Stereogum published a piece where she let Bolzer handwave their swastika tattoos and Nazi imagery. Okay, stop right there. There is no nazi imagery around Bolzer. Not a single tattoo on their lead member is a nazi swastika, they are all stylized Jain/Hindu/Eastern works and are explained inside the very article. The only time WWII etc has been referred to in their music is in the song entranced by the Wolfshook, which is a condemnation of people blindly following, and the loss of individualism. This is without even mentioning that the member in question with said tattoos is the progeny of a Nigerian, and has continually spoke out against NSBM and right wing politics from his very first involvement in metal (long before the tattoos). Sure, slate Kim Kelly if you like, but don't drag others' names through the mud to do it.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:28
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blue.eyed.ash posted:What's even better about this Kim Kelly mess is that a week or two before releasing that Dragonforce interview, Stereogum published a piece where she let Bolzer handwave their swastika tattoos and Nazi imagery.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:45
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The Clit Avoider posted:Okay, stop right there. I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but at least one of his tattoos (visible in the article's photo) is a Valknut. The Valknut isn't exclusively a white supremacist symbol, but it definitely gets a lot of play in those circles. So there's at least some ambiguity. It also doesn't help that the article title includes "what's up with those swastikas," which definitely sets the tone. But yes, Entranced by the Wolfshook seems pretty clearly to be an anti-Nazi song.
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Aug 13, 2014 14:03
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blue.eyed.ash posted:What's even better about this Kim Kelly mess is that a week or two before releasing that Dragonforce interview, Stereogum published a piece where she let Bolzer handwave their swastika tattoos and Nazi imagery. Did you just like, not even read the article?
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Aug 13, 2014 14:13
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deadking posted:I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but at least one of his tattoos (visible in the article's photo) is a Valknut. The Valknut isn't exclusively a white supremacist symbol, but it definitely gets a lot of play in those circles. So there's at least some ambiguity. It also doesn't help that the article title includes "what's up with those swastikas," which definitely sets the tone. But yes, Entranced by the Wolfshook seems pretty clearly to be an anti-Nazi song. Plenty of nonracist neopagans use the walknut too, it's not even illegal in Germany like most variant swastikas are.
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Aug 13, 2014 14:26
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deadking posted:I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but at least one of his tattoos (visible in the article's photo) is a Valknut. The Valknut isn't exclusively a white supremacist symbol, but it definitely gets a lot of play in those circles. So there's at least some ambiguity. It also doesn't help that the article title includes "what's up with those swastikas," which definitely sets the tone. But yes, Entranced by the Wolfshook seems pretty clearly to be an anti-Nazi song. Honestly we should support anyone cutting off white supremacists from appropriating cool symbols. Wincing at using anything they've used has no net positive effect.
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Aug 13, 2014 16:31
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deadking posted:I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but at least one of his tattoos (visible in the article's photo) is a Valknut. The Valknut isn't exclusively a white supremacist symbol, but it definitely gets a lot of play in those circles. So there's at least some ambiguity. It also doesn't help that the article title includes "what's up with those swastikas," which definitely sets the tone. But yes, Entranced by the Wolfshook seems pretty clearly to be an anti-Nazi song. I am a white Asatru and I use the Valknut all the time, I am 100% against white supremacy and think it is a shame that such a symbol has been used by white supremacy groups. I think Satanic Warmaster made an interesting point about their use of some Nazi imagery, they said something along the lines of "We are not Nazis but we will use a Swastika to get a rise out of people and to be controversial, because upside down crosses just don't do it anymore." Personally I have no problem with that, I think it's strange that people will blow off Cannibal Corpses Necropedophile as just being "edgy" but everyone is up in arms over a Nazi Swastika. The way to take away NSBM bands power and influence is to not give a poo poo about them.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:10
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deadking posted:I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but at least one of his tattoos (visible in the article's photo) is a Valknut. The Valknut isn't exclusively a white supremacist symbol, but it definitely gets a lot of play in those circles. So there's at least some ambiguity. It also doesn't help that the article title includes "what's up with those swastikas," which definitely sets the tone. But yes, Entranced by the Wolfshook seems pretty clearly to be an anti-Nazi song. All of these symbols existed long before the Nazis, and long before anyone "white" even knew there were other colours of skin. They may have been co-opted and corrupted by certain regimes, groups or credos in some people's eyes, but they do retain their original meanings to others. And of course, at the end of the day, they are symbols, and therefore can also have unique meanings in an individual's eyes. Would it really surprise anyone that an individual who's outlook is very much based on primal forces, shamanism and duality/trinity motifs is utilising these symbols based on their ancient meanings?
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Kvlt! posted:I think Satanic Warmaster made an interesting point about their use of some Nazi imagery, they said something along the lines of "We are not Nazis but we will use a Swastika to get a rise out of people and to be controversial, because upside down crosses just don't do it anymore." My Dreams of Hitler by Satanic Warmaster posted:The age of tragedies, my vision of a fallen empire I dunno, I think he might not be in it just for the shock value. The band name comes from a nazi black metal demo title too.
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Bloodmobile posted:I dunno, I think he might not be in it just for the shock value. The band name comes from a nazi black metal demo title too. I think you are right on this one actually. My b.
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Aug 14, 2014 18:19
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Satanic Warmaster dude is totally a nazi, but he's also impossible to take seriously at all(and quite easy to troll on forums from what I've seen).
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Aug 15, 2014 01:14
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Satanic Warmaster is a glam band with a Nazi fashion show on the side. While he's not ripping off Moonblood and Judas Iscariot, he spends a lot of time dressing up for photos and hanging out in front of his swastika flags and altar to Hitler. http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Satanic_Warmaster/Return_of_Iron_and_Blood_-_M%C3%B4t_ch%C3%BBy%C3%AAn...chua_qu%C3%AAn/349333 http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The_True_Werwolf/35080
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Aug 15, 2014 02:41
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I'll be damned if I don't love me some Satanic Warmaster though, the music is p good. Speaking of, does anyone else have anything along the lines of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKNQyn6YKk8 I'm looking for more stuff with just vocals and piano/organ or one other instrument+vocals. Thanks!
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Aug 15, 2014 03:10
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Satanic Warmaster is so generic, but that's why I kinda like it. It's pretty fun stuff I guess.
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Aug 15, 2014 04:53
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This new Falls of Rauros track is really great. The bass work is incredible.
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Aug 15, 2014 17:14
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New Nachtmystium has been out 10 days and the only thing Blake has said about bundles is "album's in Best Buy now, go pick it up!" Love it
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COOL CORN posted:New Nachtmystium has been out 10 days and the only thing Blake has said about bundles is "album's in Best Buy now, go pick it up!" Aahhahahaha I love this so much. The FB page is hilarious. Also the new album isn't very good.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Aahhahahaha I love this so much. The FB page is hilarious. Also the new album isn't very good. The lyrics (yeah who cares but they're audible and you can make sense of em) are so goddamn goofy.
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Weaponized Cum posted:The lyrics (yeah who cares but they're audible and you can make sense of em) are so goddamn goofy. You know this is the BLACK METAL thread right? Speaking of goofy, anybody seen Immortal live? If so how were they?
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