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TATPants
Mar 28, 2011

Lamar Smith R-TX posted:

what wheel cleaning product(s) do you guys like? I had some extremely dusty (stock) pads for the last 4 months and it exhausted my stash. I'm ready to try something new.

Have you tried using whatever soap you use to wash your car? If you are using an entire bottle of wheel cleaner in 4 months, the wheels cannot possibly be so filled with crap that normal soap will be unable to clean them. You should be using a separate bucket and brush for wheels anyways, so you might as well try it out.

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ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Also tried sonax, not perfect but they are actually shiny now.

LordOfThePants
Sep 25, 2002

Earlier this spring, I was walking out of my garage after arriving home from a business trip and heard a huge crash from the garage. I had one of those compartmentalized parts bins full of random stuff fall onto my car and put several dents in the front quarter-panel. It had never been secured to the wall, so this is 100% my fault for being lazy.

I managed to buff out most of the scratching and remove the paint damage, but there are still a few dents and I'm wondering what my chances are of fixing them.



Yes I know my car is dirty as hell, it's been parked outside this week.

They all have a crease in the middle and that's the worst of them. Would one of those suction cup dent pullers pop them out? If I can get the dents out, I'm pretty sure I can manage a passable paint correction.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

LordOfThePants posted:





Yes I know my car is dirty as hell, it's been parked outside this week.

They all have a crease in the middle and that's the worst of them. Would one of those suction cup dent pullers pop them out? If I can get the dents out, I'm pretty sure I can manage a passable paint correction.

Can't really tell from the picture, but that looks like it's right on the curve of the fender and has cracked the paint. It can be repaired with PDR if it is on the curve of the fender, the crease part is the most difficult part of the dent to remove, but the cracking of the paint is a deal-killer. There's a chance of the paint chipping off with either regular (behind-the-panel) PDR or one of the suction/glue methods.

Sorry. :(

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jun 24, 2019

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


It really depends on how "good" you want the end result to be, it's pretty easy to get a touch up to look good from anything over a foot away without a crazy amount of effort. Experience is probably key to get it looking good without excessive effort so I'd still agree with the suggestion to pay someone to do it.

LordOfThePants
Sep 25, 2002

Thanks - I'll see about getting it professionally repaired. I definitely don't want to botch the repair and have a total paint failure there in the future.

The Forester is primarily my winter car, although I drive it to the airport when I'm going to leave my car in long term parking the rest of the year. It's actually in pretty good shape and I'd like to keep it that way for at least another 5 years if I can.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

.

Google Butt fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Aug 12, 2014

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Going for my first ever machine detail this weekend and here's my plan:

Car: 2008.5 Mazdaspeed3 in black mica
Condition: moderate to heavy swirls with a few scratches
Products: menzerna fg400, HD polish and megs ultimate liquid wax


1. Wash the car (with ONR or the foam gun & chemical guys honeydew, haven't decided), pull it into the garage for drying
2. Clay the whole car
3. Tape all trim and grooves
4. Tape off a few 16x16 sections on the hood and do a test spot using the hd polish and white pad, wipe with ipa solution and check for adequate correction
5. If swirls remain, step up to fg400/white pad and finally fg400/Orange if I have to.
6. compound or polish the rest hood, roof, hatch, sides and fenders
7. Follow up with polish if I had to compound (although I've read that fg 400 can finish last step ready)
8. Wipe car down with ipa solution
9. Wax and final wipe

Am I missing anything? I'm ready to dedicate 12 hours on Saturday, but I don't want to feel rushed. If it looks like I'm going to have compound and polish, I might wash/clay/compound on Saturday and cover it with some sheets in garage. Sunday, prep the compounded panels with ONR/ipa, polish and wax. Is splitting up my first detail into two days a good idea?

Google Butt fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Aug 12, 2014

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I had to clean up some tail lights that are being shipped off tonight and decided to hit up one of the headlights with the same pad + compound combo. Just a quick 30 second pass with Ultimate Compound and a green Uber pad (polish, not very abrasive). Basically magic.





Going to hit them with a yellow pad, do a polish AND a super fine polish before I sell the headlights.

Thalamus
Jan 20, 2007

Peace, Brothers & Sisters!
I'm looking for a good pair of waterproof work gloves of some type that I can use while I'm detailing. Not winter gloves, I want to be able to use these year round. The various chemicals and water I use aggravates my skin and using nitrile gloves doesn't seem to do the trick. Any suggestions?

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.


Elbow long solvex gloves? Although I usually end up with a nice bit of sweat in them after some time working in them. Not the prettiest but water proof and chemical resistant so they should fit the bill

PhoenixWing
Feb 13, 2012

Applied a decal to my car today, and found out the masking tape I used doesn't like my paint. No paint came off on the tape itself, just left these nasty looking marks where the tape was. Any ideas on what could remove the marks beyond wetsanding? The most abrasive ultra-cut I have didn't even phase it.

hunter x az
Oct 28, 2003
What is a pulsar nx?

Maybe rubbing compound?

PhoenixWing
Feb 13, 2012

hunter x az posted:

What is a pulsar nx?

Maybe rubbing compound?

The most amazing 80's car ever designed :colbert: Flip-up lights, t-tops, and interchangeable hatches, all in one 2-door car.

Managed to get it off with lots of alcohol and lots of rubbing. Thankfully the paint underneath wasn't stained, looks like it was just stubborn glue.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

PhoenixWing posted:

Applied a decal to my car today, and found out the masking tape I used doesn't like my paint. No paint came off on the tape itself, just left these nasty looking marks where the tape was. Any ideas on what could remove the marks beyond wetsanding? The most abrasive ultra-cut I have didn't even phase it.

Don't use masking tape. It will often leave some of its adhesive behind. I'd use some Goof Off (though others would say Goo Gone). Be VERY careful around the lettering, which is probably a decal of some sort.


PhoenixWing posted:

The most amazing 80's car ever designed :colbert: Flip-up lights, t-tops, and interchangeable hatches, all in one 2-door car.

Managed to get it off with lots of alcohol and lots of rubbing. Thankfully the paint underneath wasn't stained, looks like it was just stubborn glue.

Cool late '80s Convertible of sorts.

hunter x az
Oct 28, 2003

PhoenixWing posted:

The most amazing 80's car ever designed :colbert: Flip-up lights, t-tops, and interchangeable hatches, all in one 2-door car.

Managed to get it off with lots of alcohol and lots of rubbing. Thankfully the paint underneath wasn't stained, looks like it was just stubborn glue.

Sweet man. Good to hear. Nice alignment on the sticker too. Good work.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

meatpimp posted:

Don't use masking tape. It will often leave some of its adhesive behind.
Note that 3M's 3434 blue tape is pretty good for coming away cleanly, and is ideal for detailing work.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

InitialDave posted:

Note that 3M's 3434 blue tape is pretty good for coming away cleanly, and is ideal for detailing work.

I don't consider any of the 3M Blue tape to be "masking" tape, I think of it more as "painter's" tape and it's use is acceptable.

PhoenixWing
Feb 13, 2012

+1 on the blue tape. Used it on the other side and it came off without leaving any marks


Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Here are the results of my first all in detail:









1. Washed with a foam gun and CG's Honeydew
2. Clayed (twice, because I made my ONR mixture too slick :()
3. Compounded with a HF polisher, LC white flat pads and Menzerna fg400
4. I was going to follow up with HD Polish but I ran out of time and I thought it looked good enough. Wiped it down with Carpro Eraser and applied Ultimate Liquid Wax with a black pad.

There's a bit of micro-marring in spots, I'm thinking that I will end up using the HD Polish this weekend and maybe pick up some carnuba to add a little depth on top of the ULW (actually a sealant). Took me 14 hours total to do a full 1 step, my back is ruined. I have gained a ton of respect for people who do this for a living, because god drat is it a lot of work.

BoyBlunder
Sep 17, 2008
^ Beautiful work, that black pearliness is really shining through.

I hope the car didn't get dirty after 15 minutes!

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

BoyBlunder posted:

^ Beautiful work, that black pearliness is really shining through.

I hope the car didn't get dirty after 15 minutes!

Thanks. I'm actually having second thoughts about the carnauba, as it attracts dust. Sealants create a slick surface. Ordered some Blackfire Crystal Seal to try out, apparently the ULW doesn't last very long.

Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people
Ive been way too busy this week to wash my cars and Im about to put another 400-500 highway miles on it. They paint is beautifully swirl free right now but I dont want to leave the bugs on it and dont have time to wash it properly before I leave. How dangerous are the touch less car washes? I live in the south if that matters.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Find a car wash bay where you spray the water and soap yourself with a hose. My local "touchless" still has some things drag along the car.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


A true touchless won't scratch the car, but it also likely won't do poo poo to remove splattered bugs.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
Yeah if I dont have time to do a proper wash on the weekends I hit a pay-n-spray and do the high pressure soap/rinse/spotless and get on the freeway and floor it.

Also the Mobil stations around me have automated touchless carwashes that cost like 5-6 bux so thats another option. Those are nice because they have the blowers at the end.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Any tips for removing dried polish splatter off plastic trim pieces? I didn't think to completely tape off the trim next to the side mirrors like an idiot. Carpro Eraser isn't really working that well, I've read peanut butter might work?

TheGoatTrick
Aug 1, 2002

Semi-aquatic personification of unstoppable douchery

meatpimp posted:

Holy shitsnacks, that's awesome. I'll be doing that, let it dry for a few weeks, then 3M Spray clearing it: http://www.amazon.com/3M-90000-Paint-Defender-Spray/dp/B00BSKYM82
Hey meatpimp, did you ever get around to using the 3M spray? I'm hearing mostly good things about it, but a few reviews that it's a nightmare to get right.

McSpatula
Aug 5, 2006

Google Butt posted:

Any tips for removing dried polish splatter off plastic trim pieces? I didn't think to completely tape off the trim next to the side mirrors like an idiot. Carpro Eraser isn't really working that well, I've read peanut butter might work?

Have you tried dish soap, warm water, and rag? It should be more than enough to break down a little bit of polish.

Edit: you can also try diluted isopropyl alcohol, but it may destroy your plastic trim finish.

McSpatula fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Sep 2, 2014

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
I've got a few marks on my car from shoveling snow off of it last winter and I'm finally getting off my rear end to do something about them. But since I know nothing about detailing, here I am. So:

1) They don't appear to be scratches and I've been told they could be buffed off. Were I to do it myself, what would I need to get?
2) Considering my lack of experience would I be better off getting a pro to do it? How much :10bux: should I expect?
2a) I've got some paint chips I'm considering also taking care of, could I kill two birds with one stone with a body shop?

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Can you feel the blemish with your finger nail?

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Google Butt posted:

Can you feel the blemish with your finger nail?

There is a small consistency change, kinda feels like the nail is catching on the edge. My finger slides smoother on it than the paint.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

TheGoatTrick posted:

Hey meatpimp, did you ever get around to using the 3M spray? I'm hearing mostly good things about it, but a few reviews that it's a nightmare to get right.

No, I've been lazy. The first two rounds of Dr.Color Chip did such a good job, I don't notice the front, even when washing it... before I'd put the 3M spray on, I'd do one more round of Dr.Color Chip to make everything fully flush.

It may happen before Winter, but I've got a shitload of stuff to do before then, so we'll see...

McSpatula
Aug 5, 2006

dupersaurus posted:

I've got a few marks on my car from shoveling snow off of it last winter and I'm finally getting off my rear end to do something about them. But since I know nothing about detailing, here I am. So:

1) They don't appear to be scratches and I've been told they could be buffed off. Were I to do it myself, what would I need to get?
2) Considering my lack of experience would I be better off getting a pro to do it? How much :10bux: should I expect?
2a) I've got some paint chips I'm considering also taking care of, could I kill two birds with one stone with a body shop?



It just looks like surface contaminant. If I'm right, you'll be able to get it out with a clay bar / prep polish, but if you don't want to do any work, other than forking over goondar monies, treat your whip to a proper detailing with a machine polish. If those chips are small enough, chances are, you won't notice them after a good glaze, coat, seal. Prices vary based on location, check yelp for mobile detailers.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

McSpatula posted:

It just looks like surface contaminant. If I'm right, you'll be able to get it out with a clay bar / prep polish, but if you don't want to do any work, other than forking over goondar monies, treat your whip to a proper detailing with a machine polish. If those chips are small enough, chances are, you won't notice them after a good glaze, coat, seal. Prices vary based on location, check yelp for mobile detailers.

The clay was a partial success: some marks went away completely, but a few stubborn ones remain, albeit diminished. I presume this means deeper damage?

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

dupersaurus posted:

The clay was a partial success: some marks went away completely, but a few stubborn ones remain, albeit diminished. I presume this means deeper damage?

All clay does is remove surface contaminants, a proper machine polish will probably do the trick. If you're interested in doing it yourself, it'll cost you a few hundred to get everything you need, depending on how deep down the rabbit hole you're willing to go. It's pretty hard to gently caress up using a da polisher, but it is hard work and will take 8-12 hours your first time. Add more if you're doing a full two stage detail. What's the rest of the paint look like? Good news is that if you do it right, and then use proper technique when maintenance washing and drying, in theory you should only have do this once. It's all about not inducing marring after you correct the paint. Correcting paint removes clear coat. The more clear you remove (again, it's hard to burn through clear with a da unless it's already bad), the paint becomes more susceptible to UV damage and clear coat failure. This can be avoided using least aggressive method required to achieve your desired level of correction, finishing off with a nice sealant or wax and a quick maintenance wash once a week.

I'll mention that you pretty much need a garage to do this in.

Unrelated, this blackfire Crystal seal is sweet stuff. 15 minutes to apply a finishing sealant on an entire car by hand? Yes please.

Google Butt fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Sep 7, 2014

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Yeah that's probably further down the rabbit hole than I want to go...

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




dupersaurus posted:

Yeah that's probably further down the rabbit hole than I want to go...

Just buy some polish and do it by hand if it's small areas. Yes it'll take a little bit but the $ investment is pretty small. He's talking about polishing your whole car (8-12hrs). If you just want to correct those little scratches, just go to work with a microfiber and a couple different levels of polish.

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dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Larrymer posted:

Just buy some polish and do it by hand if it's small areas. Yes it'll take a little bit but the $ investment is pretty small. He's talking about polishing your whole car (8-12hrs). If you just want to correct those little scratches, just go to work with a microfiber and a couple different levels of polish.

What products would I need to do this?

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