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skaboomizzy posted:It's worth noting for the thousandth time that if the kid had stayed in his car until safety crews arrived and took him off the track he'd still be alive. Smoke and his crew might have kicked his crew's asses if it came to that, but by then it probably would've just been poo poo-talking. This is probably the biggest factor IMO; even if Stewart did act in a stupid way (which looks unlikely), he wouldn't have been able to act in that sort of way if the kid had stayed in his car away from the racing line until the safety crews arrived and helped him away. Probably the other major factor is the awful "have at it!!" nonsense that exists in predominantly American racing that makes people through hissy fits over what seems to be a racing accident. The problem seems to be that it has started to move from off-track poo poo talking (which is perfectly OK and happens in every form of motorracing) and petty on-track stuff, may it be intentionally wrecking someone or trying to have a fight against a sprint car moving at a speed that would most likely kill you, which is anytime the things are moving since I can't imagine that caution speed is 20mph...
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's also about the money. you keep bringing up the Chili Bowl like it's some kind of massive thing to win it is, but things like the Kings Royal or the National Open or some poo poo are way bigger also you know man, the Chili Bowl is still loving dangerous dude only broke his back a little bit here Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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the "Boys have at it" mentality also doesn't really exist in sprint car racing. you can't use a sprint as a weapon on track (usually) and physical fights are very rare, unless it's one of the Blaney's screaming "no gently caress YOU dad" it's almost as if oval racing is nuanced and it doesn't all fall under the NASCAR banner
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FuzzySkinner posted:I think he's reached a point in his career where he should be doing these two things. Are you saying this because of the Negative PR after this incident or are you seriously of the dumb opinion that he shouldnt have fun and race whatever the hell he wants because he's too old?
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Aug 15, 2014 12:38
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's also about the money. So... How many cars have you raced? I'm guessing none becuase you would never have posted that utter tripe otherwise. (Going fast with lots of hp on a dirt is a fuckton of fun, what ever loving reason do you need?)
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The only reason people think it was on purpose is the audio. I watched the video without audio and had no idea how people were getting all frazzled from a FEW seconds of video. Then i watched with the sound turned up. Its a tragic, horrible way to die but it was the kids own fault. Although its just my opinion, not based on facts, i tend to believe all the posts about sprint car steering and visibility.
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's also about the money. This is the second dumbest thing in this thread.
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VikingSkull posted:you keep bringing up the Indy 500 like it's some kind of massive thing to win
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canti32 posted:This is the second dumbest thing in this thread. There's posts in this thread literally blaming the loving victim. But yeah me saying that Stewart shouldn't have been racing there in the first place is dumb.  ."WELL HOW MANY RACECARS HAVE YOU DRIVEN?" "YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS HE'S NOT RACING IN THE INDY 500" are also equally dumb.
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's posts in this thread literally blaming the loving victim. Stewart if anyone was the "victim" here. Dudes loving scarred for life. In what way was Ward a victim of anyone but his own stupidty?
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Aug 15, 2014 14:13
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You write like Bill Plaschke
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:Stewart if anyone was the "victim" here. Dudes loving scarred for life. In what way was Ward a victim of anyone but his own stupidty? Ward's family had to bury their son. Stewart just has to live with the guilt of this all his life. Why are we ASSUMING things here?
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's posts in this thread literally blaming the loving victim. You arguing that Stewart shouldn't be allowed to race whatever he wants because he runs a team/business is dumb. Dude has the money/skill/passion to run three hundred races a year? loving let him, it's his life. Also it's not blaming a victim to point out that maybe that dude shouldn't have left the safety of his car to run into traffic because he was mad. He did something stupid, people are pointing it out. The Indy 500 thing was pretty stupid though
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FuzzySkinner posted:Ward's family had to bury their son. Stewart just has to live with the guilt of this all his life. Why are you assuming Stewart is guilty?
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canti32 posted:Why are you assuming Stewart is guilty? I'm not. It's foolish to think either way at this point. I'm waiting until I can get the full evidence, whether this goes to trial or not, among quite a few other things. If it's dropped? He's not guilty, but I'm not willing to say he's one way or the other until that point.
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canti32 posted:You arguing that Stewart shouldn't be allowed to race whatever he wants because he runs a team/business is dumb. Dude has the money/skill/passion to run three hundred races a year? loving let him, it's his life. One man's opinion. I agree with his opinion he should not race in the lower series, much like how everyone absolutely hates the buschwhackers. Sure, he can do what he wants, we can't change what he does. canti32 posted:Also it's not blaming a victim to point out that maybe that dude shouldn't have left the safety of his car to run into traffic because he was mad. He did something stupid, people are pointing it out. Yes, he was dumb. But if Stewart didn't race there, then another driver would've killed him. Then we wouldn't be arguing about this at all. He gets to live with the fact he killed a man, guilty or not.
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fuseshock posted:One man's opinion. I agree with his opinion he should not race in the lower series, much like how everyone absolutely hates the buschwhackers. Sure, he can do what he wants, we can't change what he does. But it's not a "lower series", its a completely different style of racing. It's like saying that the AFL is a lower series of the NFL.
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's posts in this thread literally blaming the loving victim. People are blaming the victim because it's the victim's fault. If you can't wrap your head around the fact that if he'd be alive right now if he'd stayed in his car, there's no hope for you. The dude ran around on a racetrack like a dipshit and paid the price.
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's posts in this thread literally blaming the loving victim. You saying he shouldn't have been there is extremely dumb. It's not like he ran into a pop warner football game and started tackling kids. He was racing in another form of professional motorsport, which he is entitled to do.
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FuzzySkinner posted:"YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS HE'S NOT RACING IN THE INDY 500" are also equally dumb. I'd rather see Jeff Gordon in the Indy 500 before Tony Stewart, even before Smoke killed a man. Also, I almost bought this yesterday:  I would only buy it if drivers get out of their cars when I wreck them...
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NASCAR just added a rule about staying in the car until safety workers arrive to their mythical rulebook.
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CBJSprague24 posted:NASCAR just added a rule about staying in the car until safety workers arrive to their mythical rulebook. Do you think they would take away points if let's say Kurt Busch got himself run over and killed? Or just put him on probation til Dec. 31st?
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I'm just devastated by all of this because if Tony Stewart had known his place and just kept himself out of these local sprint car races, Kevin Ward Jr. never would have been a complete retard who ran into the path of oncoming vehicles. It's just sad really and hopefully Tony learns that he has no business in non-Sprint Cup cars because his lack of understanding and enormous wealth makes people play in traffic.
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a cat youtube posted:arent you the guy that passed out + pissed yourself playing princess maker on twitch stream and your mom dragged you to bed It was Katawa Shoujo you stupid loving oval office. I am so sick and tired of trolls. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I think that one of the two scenarios is also an accepted and integral part of motor racing. I don't know which one though It depends on the driver, tbh.
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CBJSprague24 posted:NASCAR just added a rule about staying in the car until safety workers arrive to their mythical rulebook. hmm this really applies to an incident that took place in a Sprint race.
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's posts in this thread literally blaming the loving victim. People kill themselves all the time by charging a train or semi truck, Ward is something all right, but it sure as gently caress isn't a victim.
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animeliker posted:It was Katawa Shoujo you stupid loving oval office. I am so sick and tired of trolls. What The gently caress dude?
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canti32 posted:But it's not a "lower series", its a completely different style of racing. It's like saying that the AFL is a lower series of the NFL. http://www.woosprint.com/drivers Lots of people need to take a peek at this list here.
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CBJSprague24 posted:NASCAR just added a rule about staying in the car until safety workers arrive to their mythical rulebook. Called it, didn't think it would happen this soon though, drat.
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Ungratek posted:hmm this really applies to an incident that took place in a Sprint race. IMO its directly relevant. I'm surprised NASCAR didn't have it before actually. What is the penalty for running around on the track (aside from likely death)?
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I can't remember anyone running out into the racing groove to make a point in NASCAR (other than Stewart at Martinsville in 1999, where the cars were basically stopped in the corner). They usually stay(ed) up by the wall or on the apron of the racetrack to point fingers/the bird/throw helmets.Ungratek posted:hmm this really applies to an incident that took place in a Sprint race. Yes, but public outrage, kneejerk American reactions, "Won't someone PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?", etc. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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Darth123123 posted:IMO its directly relevant. I'm surprised NASCAR didn't have it before actually. What is the penalty for running around on the track (aside from likely death)? It never really came up before because drivers, if they do leave their car, stand by it and don't jump in front of or try to grab multiple racecars.
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Has Darren Rovell had any poignant things to say about stewart's brand
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Bass Pro Shops is deeply saddened, and Bud Light Lime has done $500m in sales over the last year.
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Aug 15, 2014 19:13
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someone should hit Darren Rovell with their car
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http://empirenews.net/nascar-tony-s...7baOnU.facebook This was sent to me, bullshit website? Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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Aug 15, 2014 20:03
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leica posted:http://empirenews.net/nascar-tony-s...7baOnU.facebook 90-95% sure that is a hoax. That entire website looks really suspicious, and some of the linked articles read like an awful onion imitation.
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Yep, just looked it up it's an Onion rip off.
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Rusty Tweeted the article was bullshit yesterday and that he hadn't talked to Smoke.
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