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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

The Question IRL posted:

That's probably for the best as I remember that the leading Internet theory for Rip Hunter's mother up until this point was Goldstar, Booster's sister. Partially as she was the only female character in the series and partially as it would give Rip the crazy Fry style Delta-wave brain patterns.

Ugh. gently caress the internet.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


For a while, my theory was that the mother was Booster's secretary/almost-love-interest from his 80's series. They started drawing Rip with red hair and both series were by Jurgens, so it seemed possible. I met Jurgens at NYCC and he said it was a good theory, but it wasn't her.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

OldMemes posted:

Have they explained what the threat was that the DC Universe needed to be remade to face was?

I don't think so, but chances are it's the new version of the Anti-Monitor.

On a related subject: What's the latest in Futures End? I kinda... forgot about it.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
Am I the only one who hates John Romita Jr.'s art? It's always felt that way.

I've never liked his modern stuff, but I've gotten to his work in Claremont's X-Men run and he was even worse back then. It's really pulling me out of the comic.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Unmature posted:

Am I the only one who hates John Romita Jr.'s art? It's always felt that way.

I've never liked his modern stuff, but I've gotten to his work in Claremont's X-Men run and he was even worse back then. It's really pulling me out of the comic.

No, many people hate him. I'm not one of them but I can understand it.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Unmature posted:

Am I the only one who hates John Romita Jr.'s art? It's always felt that way.

I've never liked his modern stuff, but I've gotten to his work in Claremont's X-Men run and he was even worse back then. It's really pulling me out of the comic.

He's awful. I think the only time I didn't mind him was on World War Hulk. His Hulk is pretty good because it's appropriate for that character to have weird faces.

I remember being so excited about Avengers V4, and when I started reading all I saw was barf on the pages. Not that that was a great book to begin with, but it's one of the few times where I've been actively repulsed by the art in a major book.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Look at these bad opinions. Outside of being a definitive Spider-Man artist his 80's X-Men work is brilliant. He does the best mohawk Storm and an excellent Wolverine. Not to mention all his Daredevil work.


(His Bendis Avengers run wasn't great but nothing about that run was)

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I think I thought the issue where every page was one illustration was pretty neat.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

I started reading comics at the tail end of Mackie's Spider-Man run, just as JMS was taking over, and Romita Jr was artist on it. I really liked his art a lot through that whole run, and he was one of my favourite artists at the time. I did the same as you and read through Claremont's X-Men stuff, and I love his art on that too. On his recent stuff, like Avengers and Kick rear end, I've really gone off it a lot, though.

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003

I think he fits in certain stories and is easy to get tired of.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Cap America has certainly been dullsville without him.
Granted it's not been set in an alternate dimension since JRJR either, but there's a lot to a book just having a distinctive look about it.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Chinaman7000 posted:

I think he fits in certain stories and is easy to get tired of.

I agree that once in a while he does fit. I liked his work in Kick-rear end, but anytime I'm already familiar with the character I just can't stand it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Anybody deal with New England Comics much? I'm thinking about buying their Complete Ben Edlund Tick trade, as they seem to be the only ones selling it for less than an arm and a leg. eBay doesn't have it.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Anybody deal with New England Comics much? I'm thinking about buying their Complete Ben Edlund Tick trade, as they seem to be the only ones selling it for less than an arm and a leg. eBay doesn't have it.

Have you talked to someone and confirmed that they have it in stock? We tried to place an order for a customer due to Diamond having fuckall and they didn't answer any emails.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Anybody deal with New England Comics much? I'm thinking about buying their Complete Ben Edlund Tick trade, as they seem to be the only ones selling it for less than an arm and a leg. eBay doesn't have it.

They sell their stuff as a third-party seller on amazon. I bought the same volume that way and it came pretty fast and looked good.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Anybody deal with New England Comics much? I'm thinking about buying their Complete Ben Edlund Tick trade, as they seem to be the only ones selling it for less than an arm and a leg. eBay doesn't have it.

They were the people who published the original Tick issues, so I'd hope they would do a good job. (Let us know if/when you get it -- the Ben Edlund Tick issues were so great, and I'd love to have a fresh copy.)

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Anybody deal with New England Comics much? I'm thinking about buying their Complete Ben Edlund Tick trade, as they seem to be the only ones selling it for less than an arm and a leg. eBay doesn't have it.

I go to their Harvard Square shop all the time and it's boss so yeah order from them (and yeah, as others have mentioned, they were the OG publishers of The Tick)

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Is there a site that compiles old letter columns?
I just finished Morrison's Animal Man and I really want to read the reactions to it becoming progressively meta.

Benito Cereno
Jan 20, 2006

ALLEZ-OUP!

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I go to their Harvard Square shop all the time and it's boss so yeah order from them (and yeah, as others have mentioned, they were the OG publishers of The Tick)

NEC has been the publisher of all 100+ issues of The Tick since 1988.

There is a series of ten paperback collections that encompass ::cough:: almost the whole series. They tend to keep them in print so they're pretty easy to get either from your LCS via Diamond or from the NEC Press website.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Were there 2013 or 2014 editions of Hero Comics (for the Hero Initiative)?

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


I'm writing a thing on all the times Wolverine has died and I'm wondering if anyone has any examples I might be missing:

- A shitload of What If issues. I know them all, that's my thing.
- Ultimatum
- Days of Future Past (comic and cartoon)
- Infinity Gauntlet
- Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe
- Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe
- The dark future from New X-Men
- Marvel Zombies (Ultimate Fantastic Four intro arc)
- Marvel Zombies Return
- Wolverine: The End
- X-Men Forever
- Young X-Men: End of Days

I'm going with instances where it's either seen or specifically implied. Not like his skeleton showing up in Maestro's trophy room with zero explanation or any story about the Earth blowing up.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Would you count the time that Jason Aaron had the Red Right Hand send Logan to Hell? It's a little iffy because I mean, he didn't die per se because a demon was running around in his body on earth, but his soul did go to Hell.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.
I can think of a time when the angel of death came for Logan's soul, but he fought off the angel and wound up only mostly dead.

Fun fact: apparently this happens a lot. The angel was pretty pissed at Logan.

Also an alternate Wolverine is killed in Limbo by S'ym during the original Magik story, but I can't recall if it's on panel or just him gloating at regular a Wolverine.

Senior Woodchuck
Aug 29, 2006

When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home
He and all the other X-Men died in Fall of the Mutants. (Roma brought them right back, but it still counts.)

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Gavok posted:

I'm writing a thing on all the times Wolverine has died and I'm wondering if anyone has any examples I might be missing:

- A shitload of What If issues. I know them all, that's my thing.
- Ultimatum
- Days of Future Past (comic and cartoon)
- Infinity Gauntlet
- Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe
- Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe
- The dark future from New X-Men
- Marvel Zombies (Ultimate Fantastic Four intro arc)
- Marvel Zombies Return
- Wolverine: The End
- X-Men Forever
- Young X-Men: End of Days

I'm going with instances where it's either seen or specifically implied. Not like his skeleton showing up in Maestro's trophy room with zero explanation or any story about the Earth blowing up.

There was the Uncanny X-Men Annual #10 featuring the Bloodcrystal. Basically Wolverine got straight up murdered by the main badguy, but a drop of his blood hit the crystal and super charged his healing factor and grew into a new Wolverine.

There was the Charlie Heuston written limited series, Wolverin: The Best There Is at What He Does. Apparently the best thing Wolverine does is die. The story has the main villain capture Wolverine and torture him to death (over and over again) to see what his healing factor can do.

There was also Frank Tieri's run on Wolverine (Think it was around 175/176). Sabertooth used a Weapon X based super weapon designed to switch off mutant powers (Spoilers: The super weapon was Leach stuck to a telescope) and killed Wolverine. Fortunately his healing factor came back quickly enough for Wolverine to recover.

There was the Mark Gugenheim run on Wolverine during Civil War where Nitro vaporizes Wolvie down to a skeleton, and he comes back. The follow up arc goes into this a bit more by explaining that Wolverine personally pissed off the Angle of Death so that's why Wolverine can so often cheat death.

Speaking of times Wolverine has been reduced to a skeleton and lived, Grant Morison's New X-Men run had Wolverine and Jean Grey fly into the sun, and Jean's Phoenix powers kept the Old Canuckle head alive when he was sizzled.
And the other famous time that Wolverine was turned into a skeleton was X-Men: Days Of A Future Past. But in Universe X or Paradise X (one of the sequels to Earth X) they showed that Machine Man used his Watcher Technology to grab Days Of A Future Past Logan and bring him back to life.

There's also that arc in Exiles (issue 85+) where they made a team of nothing but Wolverine's, and a few of them died in that.

So yeah, pretty good going for an immortal samurai huh?

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

The Question IRL posted:

(Spoilers: The super weapon was Leach stuck to a telescope)

Best thing I've read in a long time. In my head, it's not even a big telescope, just a spyglass that's been taped to Leech's head.

quote:

...the Angle of Death so that's why Wolverine can so often cheat death.

The angle of death sounds like it should be the title of some CSI: Miami comic book.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
There was a magazine article I remember seeing when I was like 12 that was a dramatization of New X-Men vs Ultimate X-Men. It wasn't Wizard Magazine, I think it was some one-off X-Men special. I remember 616 X-Men won and at the end Wolverine walked up with an adamantium skeleton hanging off his claws, threw it to the ground and said, "Try regrowin' that."

Auralsaurus Flex
Aug 3, 2012
Doesn't a Wolverine from the past kill Wolverine in Age of Ultron?

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Gavok posted:

I'm writing a thing on all the times Wolverine has died and I'm wondering if anyone has any examples I might be missing:

- A shitload of What If issues. I know them all, that's my thing.
- Ultimatum
- Days of Future Past (comic and cartoon)
- Infinity Gauntlet
- Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe
- Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe
- The dark future from New X-Men
- Marvel Zombies (Ultimate Fantastic Four intro arc)
- Marvel Zombies Return
- Wolverine: The End
- X-Men Forever
- Young X-Men: End of Days

I'm going with instances where it's either seen or specifically implied. Not like his skeleton showing up in Maestro's trophy room with zero explanation or any story about the Earth blowing up.

Theres a New Warriors (90s run, could not tell you the issue number I'm afraid) where there is an alternate reality created by... I want to say the Sphinx? It was a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure that wolverine was a member of some resistance group and he was skeletonised (and killed) by... I was going to say the Sphinx, but I actually think it was the alternate-reality version of Thor (An Egyptian god). If I remember right he is left as hands, feet and a skeleton, and they explicitly say hes dead.

Fake Edit: It was bugging me, so I sent and checked. Its New Warriors (vol 1) issue 11.

Real Edit: And the story was called "Days of Present Past: Forever Yesterday" which being all of about 10 when I read this I didnt get, but kind of amuses me now.

SiKboy fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Aug 23, 2014

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

The Question IRL posted:

There was the Mark Gugenheim run on Wolverine during Civil War where Nitro vaporizes Wolvie down to a skeleton, and he comes back. The follow up arc goes into this a bit more by explaining that Wolverine personally pissed off the Angel of Death so that's why Wolverine can so often cheat death.

That one doesn't count because he never actually died. I mean, it's one of those bullshit times where he should've but he healing factors his way out. His inner monologue never even stops the entire time he's getting nuked and regenerating.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

TwoPair posted:

That one doesn't count because he never actually died. I mean, it's one of those bullshit times where he should've but he healing factors his way out. His inner monologue never even stops the entire time he's getting nuked and regenerating.

Remember that What If? where Wolverine was killed by being stabbed? Hahaha.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Doesn't he die in Punisher Kills by being shot in the crotch?

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Punisher Kills was stupid because it expects you to believe that a nuke was enough to kill the Juggernaut.

Also, Wolverine was killed by an electrical transformer.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Small Frozen Thing posted:

Punisher Kills was stupid because it expects you to believe that a nuke was enough to kill the Juggernaut.

He may not have died, but he certainly has no way to get back home.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Does anyone know where this series of illustrations by noted pornographer Milo Manara was originally published? It's not work safe, as it's full of nudity and gory killing. Online it usually has a title like "the history of humanity."

:nws: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/oy50p :nws:

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Jack Gladney posted:

Does anyone know where this series of illustrations by noted pornographer Milo Manara was originally published? It's not work safe, as it's full of nudity and gory killing. Online it usually has a title like "the history of humanity."

:nws: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/oy50p :nws:

It's from a book called Bolero.

qntm
Jun 17, 2009

TwoPair posted:

That one doesn't count because he never actually died. I mean, it's one of those bullshit times where he should've but he healing factors his way out. His inner monologue never even stops the entire time he's getting nuked and regenerating.

To be fair, that explosion was full of Mutant Growth Hormone or whatever it was Nitro was taking at the time.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

qntm posted:

To be fair, that explosion was full of Mutant Growth Hormone or whatever it was Nitro was taking at the time.

So if Nitro takes a bunch of cocaine and blows up, do people in the blast radius get high?

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

prefect posted:

So if Nitro takes a bunch of cocaine and blows up, do people in the blast radius get high?

Theoretically, but they'd be annihilated first.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

prefect posted:

So if Nitro takes a bunch of cocaine and blows up, do people in the blast radius get high?

Where's the Nitro vs Snowflame crossover we've all been demanding?

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