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On Meinberg? Meinberg who was at -1? That is some seriously lovely logic.
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Asiina posted:On Meinberg? -2 w/ Mill's vote at the time. Still means all of jack even if it was -1 though. A fart in the wind, much like your posts.
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Aug 20, 2014 20:39
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It was -1 until I changed my vote. You're insane if you think there's no chance that lynch could have gone through.
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Aug 20, 2014 20:43
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Oh, sorry Ecco, kill.
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Aug 20, 2014 20:48
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Asiina posted:It was -1 until I changed my vote. It was -2, More importantly, in a hypothetical world where Mills leaves his vote on, and then Meinberg gets hammered, Mills still wouldn't be scummy for it. The scummiest person would be the hammerer.
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Aug 20, 2014 20:49
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Check votefinder, it was clearly -1. Also I think if Ecco is using his normal rules it's still -1. ##unvote ##vote Mills And whether the person who hammered was scummy or not that doesn't change the fact that distancing yourself from a vote you are currently on is a scummy act.
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Aug 20, 2014 21:01
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Nah I'm just letting votefinder do it's thing this game, no need for unvoting this time.
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Aug 20, 2014 21:16
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Asiina posted:Check votefinder, it was clearly -1. ??? Okay this is completely unrelated to anyone's scumminess/townieness/wizardness/qfuhaifhafaf, but Mill's vote put Meinberg at -2. Furthermore he made his post about not voting before Meinberg was put at -1 by MMM. Sandwolf votes: 1 vote You vote: 2 votes Mills votes: 3 votes Mills makes recanting vote, but doesn't unvote MMM votes Meinberg: 4 votes You unvote: 3 votes
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Aug 20, 2014 22:41
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Asiina posted:And whether the person who hammered was scummy or not that doesn't change the fact that distancing yourself from a vote you are currently on is a scummy act.
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Aug 20, 2014 22:43
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Uh hello I couldn't unvote because the forums went down.
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Aug 20, 2014 22:50
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How does this occur to no one
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Aug 20, 2014 22:50
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##unvote Can we get an updated vote count please? I'm phone posting.
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Aug 20, 2014 22:51
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Asiina'a vote on me is probably worst because she was posting right as forums went down as well.
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Aug 20, 2014 22:54
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I observe Meinberg posting elsewhere but avoiding this thread which suggests he doesn't want to address the elephant in the room, and would rather hope someone just stupidly votes me into a lynch, which I find scum behaviour. Going back with that vote. ##vote Meinberg
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Aug 20, 2014 23:11
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Meezus posted:Asiina'a vote on me is probably worst because she was posting right as forums went down as well. What? I was posting as the forums went down so your vote isn't scummy? I have no idea what you're talking about. Jon Joe posted:And nope, because he wasn't 'distancing', he was claiming that he no longer found Meinberg and appealing lynch. That he didn't unvote doesn't matter to jack. Unless you find his opinion change, in itself, scummy, there's no reason to be voting him regarding that entire scenario. It absolutely matters and not unvoting in the post you say you don't want to vote for someone is scummy. Votes matter, especially in a small game like this. It's absolutely ludicrous to suggest that you can just leave your vote on anyone even if you don't believe they are scum because "they aren't going to get killed"
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Aug 20, 2014 23:27
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Jesus christ. You are a lot of things but I didn't think you were stupid. I couldn't unvote because the forums LITERALLY WENT DOWN as I was trying to unvote. You were present, so you should be able to connect the dots.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:31
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I have made a horrible discovery.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:33
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When I go to the reply screen, I can sometimes see Mills' posts by accident. They appear under the reply window without my permission. Is there a fix.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:33
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No. 
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Aug 20, 2014 23:34
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Ok, by using SALR's "quick reply" feature, I am able to protect my eyes, and thus, the part of my brain that reacts to beauty and whatever the opposite of beauty is. A skeleton holding a soda can. In an unrelated matter, Asiina, we may have to kill you.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:35
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Meezus posted:I observe Meinberg posting elsewhere but avoiding this thread which suggests he doesn't want to address the elephant in the room, and would rather hope someone just stupidly votes me into a lynch, which I find scum behaviour. Going back with that vote. What? I have a lot of threads that I'm going through. What's the elephant in the room? The fact that you had time to post that you weren't voting for me but not time to unvote me?
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Aug 20, 2014 23:40
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I'm going to vote for Meinberg or Asiina today unless something changes. Playing dumb isn't working for them.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:43
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Meezus posted:I'm going to vote for Meinberg or Asiina today unless something changes. Playing dumb isn't working for them. What if I actually am dumb? Didn't think about that one, did ya smart guy? With your clean suit and matching socks! And your above ground, self paid domicile!
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Aug 20, 2014 23:44
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ok well now i also have to vote meinberg.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:46
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GulagDolls posted:ok well now i also have to vote meinberg. It was just this once, I promise Gulag-sama.
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Aug 20, 2014 23:53
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Yeah I'm good with my vote where it is.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:17
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MMM, how do you feel about Asiina with respect to what I have posted?
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Aug 21, 2014 00:20
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Meezus posted:MMM, how do you feel about Asiina with respect to what I have posted? For which part specifically? Asiina's posts are 2 and 3 minutes after yours and I think she is criticizing you for saying you no longer want to vote meinberg and not unvoting within the same post, instead apparently separating into a different post more than three minutes later? I don't think her getting between you and the forums going down makes her point less valid in that regard. I don't think her point is that valid in the first place though.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:30
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MildManeredManikin posted:For which part specifically? Asiina's posts are 2 and 3 minutes after yours and I think she is criticizing you for saying you no longer want to vote meinberg and not unvoting within the same post, instead apparently separating into a different post more than three minutes later? What do you think about Jefepato?
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Aug 21, 2014 00:32
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Her argument seems to hinge on the fact that I didn't unvote for several hours. This was obviously due to down-time and I think her unwillingness to admit this as possible, let alone state that it is in fact a highly probably narrative (given that she was there at the very same time), belies either great stupidity or deliberate obtuseness. Do you not read it this way?
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Aug 21, 2014 00:35
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I don't know how I'm the stupid one for not being able to figure out that you totally were going to unvote in a different post from the one declaring your intentions to unvote. Maybe you would have but that's on you for not doing it. I can only know what you post not what you were going to post. Also that there was no possibility of Meinberg ever getting killed when he got to -1. That it was totally impossible that someone would come in and hammer. These are separate points since fair enough that Mills didn't see Meinberg get to -1 but that doesn't change the fact that it could happen. Having a vote on someone you say you don't believe is scum, especially in a small game where it only takes 5 votes, is absolutely worthy of discussion and requires an explanation. However I see your point now and I see you weren't posting elsewhere between the downtime and I believe you. ##unvote
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Aug 21, 2014 00:39
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checking to see where other people are posting is a dishonorable tactic. i demand that in at least this, a society of space wizards, we rise above such disgrace
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Aug 21, 2014 00:42
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GulagDolls posted:checking to see where other people are posting is a dishonorable tactic. i demand that in at least this, a society of space wizards, we rise above such disgrace I see you've hardly posted in non-mafia threads lately. Shameful.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:44
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I post in the West Wing thread! It's basically that and mafia.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:45
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Jon Joe posted:What do you think about Jefepato? J is very eagerly searching for scummy things but I haven't determined whether it's in a genuine looking for scum way or a looking for a person I can convincingly case way. Jefepato posted:Maybe I'm just crazy, but I'm really not sure why Asiina is at -2 already. This post put J on my radar initially and my read hasn't really changed since then.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:47
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I read Asiina's about-face as more town than Meinberg's awkward attempt to wash his hands of the situation. Sticking with my vote.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:50
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But I say "hey guys, I'm town." That means I'm town, duh.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:51
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Yeah tbh I'm not getting a feeling that asiina is playing a scumgame from her case.
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Aug 21, 2014 00:54
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you know who is scum, though, is cckeane and sandwolf.
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GulagDolls posted:you know who is scum, though, is cckeane and sandwolf. But would Sandwolf start the ball rolling against someone he knows is town?
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