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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

BIG HEADLINE posted:

In Bye-Bye Baby, the very same pilot asks a group of nuggets what's wrong with a picture of the planform of an F-15C with a crosshair planted dead-center on the fuselage. When no one spoke up, he answered for them...

"THE PIPPER'S NOT ON THE GODDAMN CANOPY!"

Because even though you're firing a hundred 20mm high-explosive shells a second, it just might not be enough to take the plane down, so make sure to aim for the driver. :allears: that guy is just all about getting poo poo done

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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Sagebrush posted:

Because even though you're firing a hundred 20mm high-explosive shells a second, it just might not be enough to take the plane down, so make sure to aim for the driver. :allears: that guy is just all about getting poo poo done

More poo poo I hadn't heard (along with some poo poo I have): http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/921898_The_Hoser_Chronicles.html

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

BIG HEADLINE posted:

"If he hits the silk, gun his rear end while he swings!"
That's a war crime, by the way.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Fucknag posted:

Ah yes, Moonraker, the movie that somehow managed to gently caress up "James Bond and a platoon of Marines fly to the big bad's space station in a shuttle cargo bay, where they engage the big bad's army in spacesuit combat with lasers".

That said, the shuttle did do flights off the back of the carrier, albeit unpowered:



That is one of the coolest god drat pictures I have ever seen.

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008
Heard some noise earlier, stuck my head out the door and the Vulcan flew past, escorted by both flying Lancasters. Pretty cool.

Pics and vid here: http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/airworthy-Lancaster-bombers-fly-Lincoln-Vulcan/story-22797384-detail/story.html

Lobster God fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 21, 2014

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
That would have been a sight.

I really hope when Peter Jackson finally gets around to the dambuster remake again (it was supposed to be filmed in 2009 but Hobbit got on the way) he is able to get both Lancasters down to New Zealand for filming, or take a camera crea to the UK and get one or both of them flying and record some footage. Same with the new zealand restored Mosquitos.

Weta has a bunch of steel and fiberglass lancaster props for filming inside of and PJ has been buying WW2 trucks and airfield props and shipping them to NZ for years in preparation.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012




Blue planes, blue helicopter.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

I ate way too much chili last night and this morning I took a poo poo at at least Mach 0.8.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
Yes, but did you get a good measurement of the EGT?

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Fun Fact: "Hoser" Satrapa lost his thumb while he was still on active duty due to a shooting accident. Rather than let that take him off flight status, he had a loving *toe* removed and attached to the point of severance, which he's kept to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aILfg1KRcg

If I remember correctly they jokingly called him 'Toe'ser for a while after the thumb/toe replacement.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Duke Chin posted:

Yes, but did you get a good measurement of the EGT?

No, it was beyond the "never exceed" end of the scale.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Sagebrush posted:

No, it was beyond the "never exceed" end of the scale.

Please report to depot for teardown and inspection.

Hermsgervørden
Apr 23, 2004
Møøse Trainer

Sagebrush posted:

I ate way too much chili last night and this morning I took a poo poo at at least Mach 0.8.

Duke Chin posted:

Yes, but did you get a good measurement of the EGT?

Sagebrush posted:

No, it was beyond the "never exceed" end of the scale.

MrChips posted:

Please report to depot for teardown and inspection.

Wow. Just Wow. Thank you all.

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro
That was beautiful.

BurgerQuest
Mar 17, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Just got back from Singapore, this was my aborted attempt getting there on Monday: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCO7/history/20140818/1025Z/YPPH/WSSS

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Going to the Air Force Museum in Dayton tomorrow (finally). Any photo requests?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Going to the Air Force Museum in Dayton tomorrow (finally). Any photo requests?

All the obscure '20s and '30s planes that nobody remembers today and that are all done up in that kickass blue and yellow color scheme.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Going to the Air Force Museum in Dayton tomorrow (finally). Any photo requests?
Some Valkyrie shots would be appreciated. :)

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Going to the Air Force Museum in Dayton tomorrow (finally). Any photo requests?

Spads. They were cordoned off because of a roof leak or some such last time I was there. And everything in the R&D hanger is always a good choice.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

YF19pilot posted:

And everything in the R&D hanger is always a good choice.

I need to go back, when I visited last summer the R&D and presidential hangars were closed thanks to the government shutdown.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

Nerobro posted:

Now I don't know if the U2 is limited due to flutter, or Mach, so I'll address both.

So, flutter is a nasty thing. And is related to absolute airspeed. Mach is weird, floaty, barrier, that happens at different speeds dependent on air density, and temperature. Crossing mach while not prepared for it, causes massive changes in center of lift, and center of pressure, frequently leading to loss of airframe. Stall is also a nasty thing, and is related to the mass of air passing over the wing.

As you go higher, the mass passing by a wing goes down, because the pressure goes down. This makes your stall speed go up. Stall speed is the lower limit of the speed you can fly at.

The speed at which you encounter flutter, is related to "how fast air is passing over the wing." It doesn't care what the density is. While you might be at 90,000', and be showing an airspeed of 75kts, the actual air speed passing over the wings might be 300kts. (I'd need to look that up for real numbers.. To use another weird plane, even at mach 3, the SR-71 was operating at an indicated airspeed of something like 350kts) Flutter is an upper limit to how fast you can fly. at some altitude, both your stall speed, and your flutter speed will be the same.

Mach is another concern. Mach, like airspeed, changes with density and temperature. As you go higher, mach 1 becomes slower, and slower. This too eventually meets with the stall speed. When an airfoil goes supersonic, it's center of lift moves back on the wing. from the "usual" 30% chord to something like 60% chord. This makes the plane suddenly very nose heavy. It also makes trailing edge control surfaces ineffective. This is a very bad combination. And it puts a very firm limit on the maximum speed of an airplane.

I don't believe that the U-2's engine was at such a critical point that it couldn't be throttled at maximum altitude. IIRC, it was only operating at something like 60-70% thrust up there. There may be some restrictions to keep the compressor speeds high enough to provide pressurization...

That said, the U2 does have nice airbrakes.

I came here to post the U-2s newest recruiting video, but I really have no idea what you're actually saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UMwoe8m31U

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
I'd be thrilled for a U-2 ride, a U-2 Chase plane ride, or a U-2 chase car ride.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
....of COURSE it's loving "SAIL" :argh:

Hey, airplane people and pilots or whatever, stop using that loving song. Jesus tap-dancing-Christ :ughh:

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Mike-o posted:

....of COURSE it's loving "SAIL" :argh:

Hey, airplane people and pilots or whatever, stop using that loving song. Jesus tap-dancing-Christ :ughh:

Dude it's either that or drowning pool / disturbed / breaking benjamin / some equally awful bro-rock band. Squadron videos looooooove their poo poo :airquote:heavy:airquote: music.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Duke Chin posted:

Dude it's either that or drowning pool / disturbed / breaking benjamin / some equally awful bro-rock band. Squadron videos looooooove their poo poo :airquote:heavy:airquote: music.

Can we get one with Slayer for once? War Ensemble would be perfect.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Better?

http://vimeo.com/103557889

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

Infinitely better :colbert:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

If you're going to use Sail, at least use the DevilDriver cover. :colbert:

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
These videos always just serve to remind me that god drat T-38 landing gear always look so spindly and fragile. "something something someone skipped leg day." :v:

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
What's the purpose behind the U-2 chase car/plane? Seems like every time I see a photo or video of a U-2 takeoff or landing, there's some car hauling rear end next to it.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

So, guys, it's been pretty boring in the world of aviation for the last year or so. Don't worry, China's on it!

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
The Camarillo Air Show is this weekend. I like to volunteer for it: they began setting up for it yesterday. I was even there as a p-51 and a hellcat took off for some flybys. This year they'll have a B-25, a Zero, an Albatros, a bunch of experimental aircraft, pancakes, etc. They won't have me this year though because I've got to watch my Mom.

Edit: Doh Proofread your posts, Paul.

RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Aug 23, 2014

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

brozozo posted:

What's the purpose behind the U-2 chase car/plane? Seems like every time I see a photo or video of a U-2 takeoff or landing, there's some car hauling rear end next to it.

The pilot doesn't have the greatest of field of views and can't twist around in the pressure suit; the chase car has another pilot in it to call out information a pilot in a regular plane would see on his own.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

brozozo posted:

What's the purpose behind the U-2 chase car/plane? Seems like every time I see a photo or video of a U-2 takeoff or landing, there's some car hauling rear end next to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvmqmG30dHo

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

brozozo posted:

What's the purpose behind the U-2 chase car/plane? Seems like every time I see a photo or video of a U-2 takeoff or landing, there's some car hauling rear end next to it.

I didn't know they used them at takeoff, but at landing they help the pilot figure out both how close he his to the ground (there's bad visibility to start with, and I understand that it has so much lift you have to come down in a nose-up stall, which makes it even harder to see), and more importantly, how close his wingtips are to the ground. The plane has bicycle landing gear, and you don't want to drag the wingtips on the ground until you're going slow enough to avoid causing damage. (There are titanium sliders on the tips for this reason, like on a MotoGP rider's knees).

e: that video. Jesus, does the plane really have a quarter of a billion worth of sensors inside, or is the pilot just talking out his rear end? That sounds like AWACS money.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Aug 23, 2014

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Sagebrush posted:

e: that video. Jesus, does the plane really have a quarter of a billion worth of sensors inside, or is the pilot just talking out his rear end? That sounds like AWACS money.

250mil of low run highly classified surveilance equipment? Sure.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Sagebrush posted:

e: that video. Jesus, does the plane really have a quarter of a billion worth of sensors inside, or is the pilot just talking out his rear end? That sounds like AWACS money.

AWACS' airshow display says each plane was worth $330M in 1998. Of course, almost nothing on the E-3 is still in production, so good luck with that.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Useful C2ISR is constantly updated, and thus cost extreme amounts of cash. If you want to find the most expensive airplane, try and find the price of the RC-135U Combat Sent.

GodlessCommie
Apr 4, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I found a secret PLAAF training film on interceptions!

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brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

FrozenVent posted:

The pilot doesn't have the greatest of field of views and can't twist around in the pressure suit; the chase car has another pilot in it to call out information a pilot in a regular plane would see on his own.

So, how many times has the chase car crashed into the U-2? :v:

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