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precision posted:The other thing I don't quite understand about hardcore Firefly fans is that Serenity exists and as far as I'm concerned that's about all that was needed. Serenity is a ridiculously well-executed sci-fi film and also the last anyone should want out of that setting. Serenity actually makes me ok with how short Firefly's run as a series was because of how atrociously loving terrible it was. It'd be great it more shows died before they had the chance to become awful. Firefly is just the most extreme example.
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Aug 26, 2014 23:39
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Just saw a gif that makes me want to check out The Blacklist. I'll have to get the DVD's before the new season starts.
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Carnivale is awesome. Behold my avatar and despair. (heyyyyyyy that works on two levels  )And speaking of Carnivale, look what I found in an antique store yesterday for $2. 
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IRQ posted:Serenity actually makes me ok with how short Firefly's run as a series was because of how atrociously loving terrible it was.
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Mu Zeta posted:River is such a great character. Whether you're referring to Firefly or Doctor Who, you are terribly, horribly wrong.
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Spatula City posted:Whether you're referring to Firefly or Doctor Who, you are terribly, horribly wrong. Only 1/2 wrong. Firefly River was annoying. River Song was awesome.
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IMHO one of the worst things about Firefly is that the fandom that sprung up in its wake was responsible for Dollhouse getting way more chances than it deserved, including getting renewed at the expense of The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Even hardcore Whedonites will admit that most of Dollhouse was garbage now, but while it was airing they were strung along by constant assurances from the man that the show was getting good now, that it wasn't his fault that the show had been terrible up until that point, that it just needed another episode, another season...
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I liked Dollhouse once the Fox mandated episode of the week stopped.
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Spatula City posted:Nope. Only 1/3 of it was bad. The rest was fascinating, daring, and effectively rebooted the series in a new, more somber direction. Capaldi is good in preety much anything, but I think the only good parts were the ones in the restaurant jusssst before the stupid victorian ninja poo poo. I'm just tired of Moffat's bullshit writing I suppose (please tell us again how the Doctor totally would begrudgingly (but not really) kill someone for the 345th time) Honestly, this episode felt like it was made for the tumblr crowd (which could be? Do most who fans have a tumblr?) including an evil River Song. There is so much good TV right now that I don't feel the need to watch crap anymore. Also, your list up there is spot-on, don't know about Caprica, never watched it.
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IRQ posted:Serenity actually makes me ok with how short Firefly's run as a series was because of how atrociously loving terrible it was. Firefly is not lovely television in any sense, but it's not anywhere close to the highest of high. The problem is until recently people were still making it the end-all-be-all of television, when there were plenty of better shows before and during its run. Vincent posted:Capaldi is good in preety much anything, but I think the only good parts were the ones in the restaurant jusssst before the stupid victorian ninja poo poo. I'm just tired of Moffat's bullshit writing I suppose (please tell us again how the Doctor totally would begrudgingly (but not really) kill someone for the 345th time) Honestly, this episode felt like it was made for the tumblr crowd (which could be? Do most who fans have a tumblr?) including an evil River Song.
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BoJack Horseman got a second season, but I promise to only be half as insufferable about it as Azure_Horizon was about The Borgias. http://www.avclub.com/article/netflix-rides-bojack-horesman-second-season-208576
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precision posted:Season 2 fixed that, in my opinion. And season 2 doesn't make sense without watching season 1. Season 2 is a really nice payoff season.
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All of you who elected not to watch Tyrant made a great choice. The entire season builds up to a coup orchestrated by main character to wrest control of the country from his brother. Instead, the coup doesn't happen, and everyone just sits around talking to each other like every other loving episode.\ e: Spoiler tags are hard 
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precision posted:Firefly is the perfect example of something with good episodes that was nevertheless not a great show. I didn't really think the episodes were that great either. JohnSherman posted:Jericho was being outperformed in the ratings department by the second season of Ghost Whisperer, which aired on a Friday at 8pm. In terms of CBS' lineup, it was a pretty poor showing and only got worse during the second season. Jericho is a lesson that listening to fan campaigns is a really lovely idea. If it weren't for these forums I wouldn't have ever known Enlisted existed, or a few other shows for that matter. Vincent posted:Capaldi is good in preety much anything, but I think the only good parts were the ones in the restaurant jusssst before the stupid victorian ninja poo poo. I'm just tired of Moffat's bullshit writing I suppose (please tell us again how the Doctor totally would begrudgingly (but not really) kill someone for the 345th time) Honestly, this episode felt like it was made for the tumblr crowd (which could be? Do most who fans have a tumblr?) including an evil River Song. Wasn't the "evil River Song" the lady badguy from a couple seasons ago who sent actual River Song back to kill the Doctor or something? That particular part of the show's run is so unmemorable that it's just kind of a blur. raditts fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Season 2 of Firefly was gonna have an episode when Inara got raped by Reavers so yeah I'm glad it only went one season. Wait what?
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JohnSherman posted:All of you who elected not to watch Tyrant made a great choice. The entire season builds up to a coup orchestrated by main character to wrest control of the country from his brother. Instead, the coup doesn't happen, and everyone just sits around talking to each other like every other loving episode.\ Glad I bailed after like 4 episodes then. It had promise, but quickly turned into clearly just spinning its wheels and ~family drama~.
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raditts posted:Wasn't the "evil River Song" the lady badguy from a couple seasons ago who sent actual River Song back to kill the Doctor or something? That particular part of the show's run is so unmemorable that it's just kind of a blur.  I really don't remember, except probably she maybe actually was a villain and Moffat hated (and still hates) two-parters so we have to suffer with him cramming too much dumb lore into 42 minutes.
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Hey, remember when that one guy said River Song was 'awesome'? Ha.
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Re: Moral Orel, this show has been fun so far, oh jesus christ what the gently caress am i watching
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IRQ posted:Serenity actually makes me ok with how short Firefly's run as a series was because of how atrociously loving terrible it was. While Serenity is indeed excellent, I don't think you can really take it as reflective of how Firefly would have turned out if it continued. One 2 hour film and an ongoing series are going to differ inherently in many ways.
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BSam posted:Re: Moral Orel, this show has been fun so far, oh jesus christ what the gently caress am i watching I posted this just before starting season 3. How little did I know. Oh God, oh God.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Watch Spectacular Spider-Man. It's better than Batman: TAS and everything the character should be. Also the catchiest title song ever produced.
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Fateo McMurray posted:Only 1/2 wrong. Firefly River was annoying. River Song was awesome. Agreed. I love River Song, in fact I'd say she's the closest we've come to a female Doctor. She's also my wife's favorite character of the reboot.
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thrawn527 posted:Agreed. I love River Song, in fact I'd say she's the closest we've come to a female Doctor. She's also my wife's favorite character of the reboot. Like most things Moffat, she overstayed her welcome.
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Kurtofan posted:How's American Horror Story? Season 2 > Season 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Season 3.
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Season 3 was a mess because they were laying the groundwork for an aborted spinoff. As a result, it never gained any momentum and just meandered from one thing to another. Hopefully they learned their lesson and Season 4 will be a return to form. It better since it is Jessica Lange's last season.
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I read an article today saying that she is considering doing another season because she's having so much fun with this one.
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Kurtofan posted:How's American Horror Story? Batshit insane in the best possible way. The pilot will pretty much hook you and each episode flows at a breakneck pace. Also each season is independent of the last so even though season 3 sucks it doesn't matter.
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BSam posted:I posted this just before starting season 3. How little did I know. Oh God, oh God. Moral Orel probably shouldn't exist, but I am so unbelievably glad it does. Such a hosed up yet incredible show.
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GreenNight posted:I read an article today saying that she is considering doing another season because she's having so much fun with this one. That would be great if they keep the quality up. Between this and Fargo, I'm liking the sort of self contained seasons with their own independent story. Something about knowing the payoff will come right away is fun.
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Kurtofan posted:How's American Horror Story? It's a bit like Caprica, but with a much faster plot as it is a miniseries.
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Ravane posted:It's a bit like Caprica, but with a much faster plot as it is a miniseries. Is that good? Caprica, I mean. It's a shame for season 3 as the "theme" (Coven) really interested me, oh well I'll check out the other two seasons, thanks.
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Kurtofan posted:Is that good? Caprica, I mean. Pay no attention to the cynical people here; Caprica, although short-lived, was a unique and enthralling take on science-fiction. It's a rare goodie that's quite often overlooked. It covers interplanetary racial conflicts, the ethical grey areas of virtual reality, and the birth of a monotheistic religion in a place where polytheism is ubiquitous. It also covers the slow birth and complications of artificial intelligence, as well as seemingly immoralistic situation of robotics research being funded by governing entities (One of the main characters wishes to introduce robots into every aspect of civilian life to aid others, but only the government can provide him with the research to do this and in return, he must produce weaponized variants for military use.) It's a plethora of ideas, but due to its early demise, the show never had the chance to expand on them. It's worth a watch.
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whowhatwhere posted:Wait what? quote:But also, we learned part of Inara's huge secret: she's dying of some terminal disease, which is only vaguely hinted at in one episode. And executive producer Tim Minear explained about one episode that Joss Whedon pitched early on: Yeah, Inara was basically gonna go through the same treatment of every other Whedon woman. At least Kaylee's safe.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:From here: To be fair this was during a pitch meeting, when all sorts of dumb poo poo gets thrown around. Firefly changed a lot, specifically becomming more light hearted since Tim was first brought on board.
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By the way, I wasn't saying I'm a fan of Firefly, I meant simply I was shocked Jericho has more diehard fans than Firefly, which has always seemed like the ultimate cult show with the most rabid fanbase.
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Don't underestimate Skeet Ulrich's fanbase
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So turns out Bojack Horseman is unwatchable. Avoid. Had to cut out before the first episode was done. gently caress that, I'm behind on The Knick. How's the new Flash show going? Any better than Arrow (which I also bailed out on)?
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