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Data Graham posted:The skinned dog and the unhinged fatherly advice about cosmetics and poo poo like that, eegh... it's not funny or edgy, it's just creepy-crawly. Pilot Doc was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay creepier and also kinda gay. I believe its discussed in the commentaries that Doc changes the most out of all the characters between pilot and series. That and the Monarch and Dr Girlfriend weren't intended to be the main villains. Way back in the first Venture Thread (geez I can't believe I remember this), some of us speculated that "Phantom Limb" would have been a great name for a, uh, post-op super-villain group. I can't believe I remember that.
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TK-42-1 posted:"They're robot bones!" I imagine having watched Johnny Quest as a kid helps hook people in. There's a much more straight Johnny Quest parody in the first episode of Freakazoid that I look back on and can't figure out how anybody who hasn't watched a lot of Johnny Quest makes heads or tails of it.
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Pope Guilty posted:There's a much more straight Johnny Quest parody in the first episode of Freakazoid that I look back on and can't figure out how anybody who hasn't watched a lot of Johnny Quest makes heads or tails of it. Yeah, I "got" that Toby Danger was a parody of Johnny Quest when I was 10 (It helped that it debuted right when the Turner networks were running that Quest TV movie ad infinitum,) but I didn't "get" it until many, many years after the fact.
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Aug 15, 2014 04:48
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Pope Guilty posted:I imagine having watched Johnny Quest as a kid helps hook people in. There's a much more straight Johnny Quest parody in the first episode of Freakazoid that I look back on and can't figure out how anybody who hasn't watched a lot of Johnny Quest makes heads or tails of it. Just let me throw a barrel at it! I remembered that for years until I actually got to watch Jonny Quest and it all came together.
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SRM posted:Just let me throw a barrel at it! I didn't watch the first season of VB because I figured it would only be a constant retread of that skit. I finally caved when the second season premiered, watched the first ep of that and the watched the entire first season to try and figure out what the gently caress was even going on.
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Sash! posted:Pilot Doc was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay creepier and also kinda gay. I believe its discussed in the commentaries that Doc changes the most out of all the characters between pilot and series. That and the Monarch and Dr Girlfriend weren't intended to be the main villains. I don't know if it was so much that he was "kind gay" as it was that in the pilot, Doc seems to be sort of "stuck" in the 60's/70's mindset along with the boys. But I do remember watching the pilot and liking it, and then being really happy when i read it was picked up for a season, but I was also only like 18/19, and looking back now, yeah, it's hit and miss. And then I tried to get a couple friends into the show after the first season aired and Adult Swim was showing reruns, and the first episode they watched was "Careers in Science," which, while much more enjoyable to me now, really is a terrible episode to start on...Hell, not even a good episode to watch second (which I think was it's original broadcast order.) The best episodes to get someone into VB, if you're starting with the first season, are Tag Sale: You're It!, Ghosts of the Sargasso, and Eeney, Meeny, Miney...Magic! Honorable mention goes to Home Insecurity.
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Shindragon posted:It is also my favorite episode because you get a glimpse of what the Venture Brothers adventures are when the most we get is them talking about it. Goddammit. I just marathoned season 2 with a couple of friends who are new to the series last weekend, and decided to stream through Netflix for convenience's sake instead of use my DVDs. Apparently, though, the versions on there are edited, because that scene was missing. I thought something was wrong when the bit with Caligula fishing a key out of his rear end didn't show up, but that clinches it. Why the gently caress would they do that? It's not like they have to squeeze in more commercials or something.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:Goddammit. I just marathoned season 2 with a couple of friends who are new to the series last weekend, and decided to stream through Netflix for convenience's sake instead of use my DVDs. Apparently, though, the versions on there are edited, because that scene was missing. I thought something was wrong when the bit with Caligula fishing a key out of his rear end didn't show up, but that clinches it. Why the gently caress would they do that? It's not like they have to squeeze in more commercials or something. (They're edited? That's awful. I am glad I own them on DVD and haven't gotten the urge to rewatch lately, because I'd be disappointed!)
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Aug 16, 2014 06:23
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Breaking Bad is censored and missing scenes on Netflix too. Bit odd.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:Goddammit. I just marathoned season 2 with a couple of friends who are new to the series last weekend, and decided to stream through Netflix for convenience's sake instead of use my DVDs. Apparently, though, the versions on there are edited, because that scene was missing. I thought something was wrong when the bit with Caligula fishing a key out of his rear end didn't show up, but that clinches it. Why the gently caress would they do that? It's not like they have to squeeze in more commercials or something. I watched both of these eps on Netflix earlier today, and both those scenes are there.
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I wish Netflix would get more Venture Brothers, 'cause I'm not carrying my DVDs around.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:Goddammit. I just marathoned season 2 with a couple of friends who are new to the series last weekend, and decided to stream through Netflix for convenience's sake instead of use my DVDs. Apparently, though, the versions on there are edited, because that scene was missing. I thought something was wrong when the bit with Caligula fishing a key out of his rear end didn't show up, but that clinches it. Why the gently caress would they do that? It's not like they have to squeeze in more commercials or something. What region are you in because that scene is still there when I just watched it. (I'm in the US)
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Ohtsam posted:What region are you in because that scene is still there when I just watched it. (I'm in the US) I'm in the US, but pretty sure neither of those scenes were in when I watched. Hell, at this point I'm starting to doubt myself.
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Ludicrous Gibs! posted:I'm in the US, but pretty sure neither of those scenes were in when I watched. Hell, at this point I'm starting to doubt myself. I recently rewatched the entirety of Venture Brothers and both of those scenes were definitely, 100% guaranteed present on Netflix. I went and confirmed it after reading this thread, even. Both "cut" moments happen within the first two minutes. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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They are even missing entire episodes. Return to the House of Mummies Part 1 isn't even listed. 
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But that sets up all the context!
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DrBouvenstein posted:I don't know if it was so much that he was "kind gay" as it was that in the pilot, Doc seems to be sort of "stuck" in the 60's/70's mindset along with the boys. CoolCab fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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CoolCab posted:I thought he was pretty explicitly supposed to be gay for Brock, like maybe his hand lingered on him for weirdly long for a second or something? Christ these memories are like nine years old. It was parodying the "special relationship" implied between Doctor Quest and his bodyguard (an unmarried bachelor who raises Johnny with a male bodyguard). That was the element that was too on the nose for me in the plot, took it from "parody of early sixties adventure/science fiction" to "parody of the show Johnny Quest'', I'm very glad they dropped it. Of course we're a couple! A couple of guys!
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I hated the pilot when it premiered. I saw what they were going for, but I just didn't think it was funny. I forget when I turned around on it, but I think it was after I caught a random episode from the second season.
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CoolCab posted:I thought he was pretty explicitly supposed to be gay for Brock, like maybe his hand lingered on him for weirdly long for a second or something? Yeah, there's a lot of gestures and body language towards Brock. And even some dialogue that could be...construed that way.
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Aug 27, 2014 00:48
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HOW CAN I GUARD YOUR BODY IF I CANT BE CLOSE TO YOUR BODY?????
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What if he's the actual god Zeus? Literally Zeus, all pissed off that no one cares about Zeus anymore? This episode is great.
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Aug 27, 2014 06:23
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That line always pops into my head whenever lightning strikes particularly close.
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JT Jag posted:What if he's the actual god Zeus? Literally Zeus, all pissed off that no one cares about Zeus anymore? I'm sad Treister is gone with the peepee cansckers. Toby Huss did an amazing job with that role.
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TK-42-1 posted:I'm sad Treister is gone with the peepee cansckers. Toby Huss did an amazing job with that role. I still hold out hope that he'll return to us alive and well thanks to ALIEN TECK-NOLOGY
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Toby Huss can't not be great.
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Chibs posted:I still hold out hope that he'll return to us alive and well thanks to ALIEN TECK-NOLOGY Are you saying they'll FIX IT! ?
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grilldos posted:Toby Huss can't not be great. He is, after all, the Strongest Man...in the World!
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DrBouvenstein posted:He is, after all, the Strongest Man...in the World! Holy poo poo, I just had to look that up, and I can't believe it's the same person. EDIT: He's Khan in King of the Hill too. I hate that show, but he's done a lot of things.
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DrBouvenstein posted:He is, after all, the Strongest Man...in the World! ahaha holy crap
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Huss is also really good in Down Periscope.IUG posted:Holy poo poo, I just had to look that up, and I can't believe it's the same person. Not to derail the Venture Brothers thread, but holy poo poo, how can a person hate King of the Hill?
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How much direct experience do you have with rednecks? It is easy not to like that show if you can't stand rednecks, despite how good the writing may or may not be. I, for one, can't stand watching them even if it's satire, so sadly I'm missing out on Trailer Park Boys as well.
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Yup, and it also ruined Cars and Cars 2 for me. But specifically KotH, I just can't stand the characters or the plot from the few episodes I've seen. 90% of the time (I had a GF who watched it), the plot seems to center on "look at these characters be socially awkward or stubborn". Which I guess is Venture Brothers too, but at least it's a sci-fi action setting. KotH is just boring south/midwest or wherever.
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If you don't like King of the Hill, try watching it in the same mindset as you'd watch Seinfeld or Arrested Development, where everybody is terrible and you're laughing at how awful they are.
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Aug 27, 2014 19:42
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Actually, everyone on King of the Hill Owns
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Pope Guilty posted:If you don't like King of the Hill, try watching it in the same mindset as you'd watch Seinfeld or Arrested Development, where everybody is terrible and you're laughing at how awful they are. Except Boomhauer, he's a saint.
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Pope Guilty posted:If you don't like King of the Hill, try watching it in the same mindset as you'd watch Seinfeld or Arrested Development, where everybody is terrible and you're laughing at how awful they are. Eh, if the characters aren't relate-able in some way, you're just not invested. At least you could sympathize with Jerry or George in some situations, or recall that you'd been there before. King of the Hill (or any show) doesn't seem fun to watch as a 'ha ha, look at these terrible people' endeavor. Plus, the animation sucks.
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King of the Hill spends an awful lot of time doing the Simpsons seasons 1-9 bit of having real touching personal moments between family and friends in the final moments of episodes, playing on the relateability of the characters. Seinfeld, while also relatable, never reaches this level. To argue the latter is more sympathetic than the former can only be the result of having barely seen any of King of the Hill. Just say you can't get over the show being about southern stereotypes and you never gave it a fair shake. It's fine to say that. I was that way for a decade.
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feedmyleg posted:How much direct experience do you have with rednecks? It is easy not to like that show if you can't stand rednecks, despite how good the writing may or may not be. I, for one, can't stand watching them even if it's satire, so sadly I'm missing out on Trailer Park Boys as well. I was born in Texas and lived there, Mississippi, and Alabama, so I've been around more than my fair share of rednecks, hillbillies, and yokels.
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feedmyleg posted:How much direct experience do you have with rednecks? It is easy not to like that show if you can't stand rednecks, despite how good the writing may or may not be. I, for one, can't stand watching them even if it's satire, so sadly I'm missing out on Trailer Park Boys as well. No wonder I hate king of the hill. I always hear people talk about how great it is, but i never liked it. Also, Seinfeld. Maybe it's cause I grew up hating people from NYC too. Differences in what people find funny/good is always interesting.
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