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StashAugustine posted:Fallout 2 is worse than 3. This opinion you have right here? Yeah, you should go fix that, cause I think it might be broken. 
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LividLiquid posted:Where are there Replicants in Fallout 2? No, there aren't any. I'm just saying that 2's unstructured zaniness was sadly a precursor to some of Fallout 3's worst tone-deaf excesses. Heck, even the ridiculous 'people who think they're vampires' shtick was originally meant to be part of Van Buren. grobbo fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Aug 30, 2014 18:45
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Fallout 2 was my first Fallout. I have never completed Fallout 1 because it's too buggy and broken and literally every playthrough I've attempted (five, if we're counting) was waylayed by fuckery. So the tone shift for me actually moved backwards. I was surprised at how seriously Fallout 3 took its setting when I was used to a lot of ridiculousness.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:34
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I liked Fallout 1 a lot but there's so little to do and so few different weapons/armor to play with that it's hard to really reconcile. Like, I'm pretty sure the town of New Reno alone has more quests than literally the entirety of the first game, and it's not even connected to the main quest. It's just there for you to gently caress around in! Kinda hard to go back to killing radscorpions for Aradesh after that.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:42
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So many times in that game, I'd show up somewhere like the Brotherhood of Steel, and the game would treat me like I'd already been there and failed some quest, so the playthrough would be ruined. Last time I tried to play, I made it to the base under the cathedral, hadn't leveled enough to beat it, but every time I tried to leave, it would cut to one of the "you have died" slides. Even with all the patches, it's completely unplayable. I have no idea how any of you managed to get through it. I also can't stand gaming on a ticking clock, so I don't think I'll be trying again. Great game, for sure. Just buggy as hell and not for me.
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Aug 30, 2014 20:04
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LividLiquid posted:So many times in that game, I'd show up somewhere like the Brotherhood of Steel, and the game would treat me like I'd already been there and failed some quest, so the playthrough would be ruined. 
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Aug 30, 2014 20:10
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I like the folks at NMA who think of FO1 as the only 'good' and pure Fallout and I just think to myself why do you even like the franchise at that point.
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Aug 30, 2014 21:18
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Berke Negri posted:I like the folks at NMA who think of FO1 as the only 'good' and pure Fallout and I just think to myself why do you even like the franchise at that point. It's not so much they like Fallout as it's a good way to indulge their actual hobby, feeling superior to people.
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Aug 30, 2014 21:55
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chiasaur11 posted:It's not so much they like Fallout as it's a good way to indulge their actual hobby, feeling superior to people.
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Aug 30, 2014 23:44
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Paracelsus posted:To be fair, that's a large part of what folks on SA are here for as well. Hey buddy, I only feel superior to people who like F3 better than FNV, people who don't think KOTOR2 is the only worthwhile thing Star Wars did since the original films, Call of Duty fans, webcomic readers, conservatives....okay, I kind of understand your point.
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Aug 31, 2014 01:04
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This fighting isn't what The King would want! He wanted a society for every man to feel free to follow his own path, do his own thing. Where every man is a king in his own right. Why can't we upload the King to House's mainframe Obsidian?
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Aug 31, 2014 02:06
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Pwnstar posted:This fighting isn't what The King would want! He wanted a society for every man to feel free to follow his own path, do his own thing. Where every man is a king in his own right. The NCR lets King run Freeside. The NCR is your friend! It fights for freedom.
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Aug 31, 2014 02:15
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What would cause Dead Money not to load? I've uninstalled and reinstalled, checked the load order, all my mods that depend on it work, but I don't get the quest and when I start a new character I don't get the Dead Money message.
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Aug 31, 2014 06:31
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You might have the delayed dlc mod?
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Aug 31, 2014 06:36
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Nope. ETA: Disabled all my other mods and started a new game - still no dice. packetmantis fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Aug 31, 2014 06:41
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Okay, what the hell. I basically kicked the game until it worked, so... crisis averted? I guess?
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Aug 31, 2014 07:09
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Try spawning a Dead Money item with the console, see if its just the quest starting thats funky or if the whole thing is not loading properly.
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Aug 31, 2014 07:09
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Speaking of, I'm almost level 20 now...what would be some good skill levels to have before doing dead money?
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Aug 31, 2014 07:11
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Berke Negri posted:Speaking of, I'm almost level 20 now...what would be some good skill levels to have before doing dead money? People suggest melee, but that isn't necessary. All the dead money weapons have a bonus crippling chance, which makes it easy to perma-kill ghosts. And talking to one of the companions permanently gives you the perk that perma kills them. You get given one of the best energy weapons in the game at the very start, and there are plenty of police magnums laying around. Enemies drop decent melee/unarmed and explosive weapons and you can scavenge for mines. Wrt to non-combat skills, literally every skill has unique dialogue, but [companion spoilers] there is one companion who you can only save with max/high speech speech.
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Aug 31, 2014 07:19
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A little more investigation reveals that the Roleplay Start mod was the problem after I redownloaded the game. Once I went to Goodsprings, talked to Doc Mitchell, and walked out of his house, I hit the trigger point that gave me the quest.  gamebryo
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Aug 31, 2014 07:25
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Berke Negri posted:Speaking of, I'm almost level 20 now...what would be some good skill levels to have before doing dead money? If you don't have 75 science, ammo is going to be hard to come by.
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Aug 31, 2014 07:35
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oh jay posted:If you don't have 75 science, ammo is going to be hard to come by. I'd say Science is mandatory for any Energy Weapons run, to craft over/max charge ammo. On the other hand, I don't think Vigilant Recycler is worth a perk choice, unless you've taken everything else you want.
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Aug 31, 2014 07:57
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oh jay posted:If you don't have 75 science, ammo is going to be hard to come by. Not at my computer but at the moment I have like 50 science, 80 energy, 80 repair, 55 melee, 50ish guns, 65 survival, 80 speech. My barter/lockpick/explosives/medicine are all around 30 so I'm wondering if any of those need to be brought up considerably for anything important.
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Aug 31, 2014 08:02
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Berke Negri posted:Not at my computer but at the moment I have like 50 science, 80 energy, 80 repair, 55 melee, 50ish guns, 65 survival, 80 speech. My barter/lockpick/explosives/medicine are all around 30 so I'm wondering if any of those need to be brought up considerably for anything important. What's important to you? If you're a completionist then speech is a must. You may be able to scrounge fission batteries to keep yourself stocked with energy ammo, but aside from that, Dead Money is the best dlc wrt to putting different stuff in for different playthroughs.
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Aug 31, 2014 08:07
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Gynovore posted:I'd say Science is mandatory for any Energy Weapons run, to craft over/max charge ammo. On the other hand, I don't think Vigilant Recycler is worth a perk choice, unless you've taken everything else you want. With GRA installed, Vigilant Recycler becomes a must for any energy weapons character. Not so much for the recycling aspect (though that helps, certainly), but for the optimized cell recipes that cut your ammo weight in half. Micro fusion cells are ridiculously heavy for some reason.
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Aug 31, 2014 11:28
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Berke Negri posted:Not at my computer but at the moment I have like 50 science, 80 energy, 80 repair, 55 melee, 50ish guns, 65 survival, 80 speech. My barter/lockpick/explosives/medicine are all around 30 so I'm wondering if any of those need to be brought up considerably for anything important. If you have jsawyer (you definitely should), you don't need 75 Science.
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Aug 31, 2014 12:46
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For being able to save all the characters you'll need 85 speech, no need to boost your Barter or Explosives. High lockpick will let you scrounge a few more supplies though, so it's probably worth putting some points into that. Plus there's a couple of dialogue options that only unlock if you have 75 Lockpick and I always pick those purely for the novelty value. Other than that, yeah, boost the skills you like because there's options for everything in there. If your Intelligence is 5 then drink some booze and talk to the dumbest character you find for some bonus dialogue. Oh: from the starting area head east and look at the doors along the north walls, one of them is a tiny room with a workbench in it that you can use to make a couple of weapon repair kits and recycle ammo. I'm not sure if there are any other workbenches in the DLC, that's the only one I remember finding.
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2house2fly posted:For being able to save all the characters you'll need 85 speech, no need to boost your Barter or Explosives. High lockpick will let you scrounge a few more supplies though, so it's probably worth putting some points into that. Plus there's a couple of dialogue options that only unlock if you have 75 Lockpick and I always pick those purely for the novelty value. Other than that, yeah, boost the skills you like because there's options for everything in there. If your Intelligence is 5 then drink some booze and talk to the dumbest character you find for some bonus dialogue. There's a few, and a major room with one and TONS of components in the second half of the DLC.
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I think the most important thing to save all characters is to never say anything that can be perceived as negative to Dean Domino. The guy is a freaking diva. Hell, why would I even want him to survive?
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Aug 31, 2014 16:34
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:There's a few, and a major room with one and TONS of components in the second half of the DLC. Oh, also: stop frequently in the central Villa area to stash your loot in the garbage can next to the DLC exit. Then when you're done you can take all the crafting stuff/weapons/armour you didn't use back to the Mojave with you.
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Aug 31, 2014 17:38
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2house2fly posted:That room is my favourite room, I felt like I'd found the army depot from Fallout 2 when I stumbled in there. I meant I don't know where there are any other workbenches out in the Villa though. There's one other workbench in the Villa, but it's the Villa so the best direction I can give you is "in a closet… kinda to the right… maybe?" Also, Light Step can be a very handy perk for Dead Money. Not 100% necessary, more for quality of life, but there are seriously a shitload of traps.
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2house2fly posted:That room is my favourite room, I felt like I'd found the army depot from Fallout 2 when I stumbled in there. I meant I don't know where there are any other workbenches out in the Villa though. I didn't put it in a container. I just piled that poo poo up right in front of the door. You can keep the drat vault, Dean. I'm taking literally every other goddamned thing in the entire casino. It was pretty great seeing the mountain of crap I was taking home even though the rest of Dead Money was tedious. But then I also filled an entire house with miniguns in Fallout 3 so I guess I'm just an insane hoarder in video games.
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I think there's a workbench in the Villa Clinic basement.
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StandardVC10 posted:There's one other workbench in the Villa, but it's the Villa so the best direction I can give you is "in a closet… kinda to the right… maybe?" I've gone through Dead Money a bunch of times (it's my favorite DLC) and I still get killed by the drat bear traps because I never bother to take Light Step. So drat many of them.
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Garrand posted:I've gone through Dead Money a bunch of times (it's my favorite DLC) and I still get killed by the drat bear traps because I never bother to take Light Step. So drat many of them. There's only really one section with lots of traps in the actual path you should travel, and you can do it with a companion who gives you the Light Step perk 
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MrL_JaKiri posted:There's only really one section with lots of traps in the actual path you should travel, and you can do it with a companion who gives you the Light Step perk Anymore I use mods that greatly increase weapon damage and armor while also using the Increased Wasteland Spawns mod. In runs where I'm focusing on noncombat stuff I abuse Dog a lot, and I still always clear out pretty much every corner of everywhere I go. My game is pretty much built on straight up masochism, but even my first time through the game I played on Hardest on hardcore without too much trouble. The vanilla game is just too easy.
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Two early impressions from a melee run, since I haven't done one since like a month after the game came out: 1. Jesus, but I'm going through a ton of healing items. 2. I feel like there's a LOT of guns and ammo early on, but energy weapons/melee/unarmed stuff is fairly rare. This is compounded by how fragile the early melee weapons are. I picked up a bladed gauntlet (unarmed, I know) that was good but only had enough Durability in it for a couple of dozen hits, and hoo boy, but the Broad Machete you start with breaks fast. The Weathered 10mm Pistol and the Sturdy Caravan Shotgun are great weapons that give a nice headstart on the game, but early melee/unarmed is oddly reminiscent of Dead Island or System Shock 2.
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Melee just kind of sucks. If you know to grab Chance's Knife early on, you pretty much don't use anything else for like, a long goddamn time, which is boring. Unarmed ended up being a lot more interesting, even though I ended up using Pushy most of the time there. And yeah, unarmed/melee inevitably takes more damage than ranged characters, so pump up the END. Survival is nice too.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:43
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There's really no reason to not level both since piercing palm and super slam! are both key for either. If you aren't sequencing breaking or grabbing uniques there's a combat knife in the primm casino that you can use for a while. Melee is kind of a weird run since there's some really good weapons you can get early but if you don't you end up farting around with garbage like bumper sword forever.
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I grabbed Chopper from Wolfhorn Ranch, and that's pretty nice. I like the Rebar Club, but the improved crit chance you often see on edged weapons is just too nice.
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