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CapitalistPig posted:It made me laugh. Do you laugh at tumble weeds blowing by as well?
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MildManeredManikin posted:Do you laugh at tumble weeds blowing by as well? I am v easily amused.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:14
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Also I'm lying about everything I just said and I just want Jedit to die.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:15
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Ok I have to go back to work for a bit.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:16
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CapitalistPig posted:Also I'm lying about everything I just said and I just want Jedit to die. Ok, now I feel better that my gut reaction to your claims was that it felt dodgy.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:17
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fiery_valkyrie posted:That they both feel dodgy, but I can't really put it into words better than that. Jedit's night vote was weird and too eager but like, if scum got a night action surely they would be discussing it? That was my thought before the cop claim. CapitalistPig posted:Also I'm lying about everything I just said and I just want Jedit to die. I pretty much figured, killing Jedit is surely a noble cause but let's not waste our time with stuff like this.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:19
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Yo pig legitimately though, were you roleblocked?
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Sep 3, 2014 05:20
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MildManeredManikin posted:Yo pig legitimately though, were you roleblocked? Ok full disclosure, I lied because I want Jedit to die. I don't have any drat actions which makes me mad because I want actions and this was the first game I ever played where we could do n0 actions and I was mad I didn't get any.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:23
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Interesting, I don't have night action either. Meinberg also claimed no night action.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:24
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You know for a short moment in this thread I thought I wasn't alone in this cold and uncaring world
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Sep 3, 2014 05:34
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MildManeredManikin posted:You know for a short moment in this thread I thought I wasn't alone in this cold and uncaring world You're not alone. No one is really alone. We work together to accomplish our goals, both common and personal. Do not worry. I will be here for you all.
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Sep 3, 2014 09:08
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CapitalistPig posted:Ok full disclosure, I lied because I want Jedit to die. 
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Sep 3, 2014 15:02
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All Cpig does when he's town is call people idiots..
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Sep 3, 2014 15:03
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##vote MMM for getting really weird about a jokevote and fishing for information. I don't care for Cpig either but he comes off better in that exchange.
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Sep 3, 2014 15:44
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Juanito posted:All Cpig does when he's town is call people idiots.. How does all that being wrong feel?
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Sep 3, 2014 16:32
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Somberbrero posted:##vote MMM for getting really weird about a jokevote and fishing for information. I don't care for Cpig either but he comes off better in that exchange. Which joke vote? Pig's? I thought I explained that.
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Sep 3, 2014 17:12
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You did, you and FV were just way too intense about an obvious joke.MildManeredManikin posted:FV while we're here what do you think of This is also a great way for scum to appear like they're contributing content and building connections without actually saying anything.
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Sep 3, 2014 17:18
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But then I did say actual things? Asking questions early on is also a good way to get reads from other people as well.
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Sep 3, 2014 17:25
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MildManeredManikin posted:But then I did say actual things? You were trying to draw inferences from an obvious joke. I don't buy that as 'saying something.' I disagree with that, I think it's a solid scum tell to ask people to generate content for you rather than pushing your own opinions. If you had said "I think [x], what do you think FV?" then I would view it differently, but you waited for her to form an opinion before putting forth your own. Obviously everything is contextual but I don't like how you made that move.
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Somberbrero posted:You were trying to draw inferences from an obvious joke. I don't buy that as 'saying something.' Are you still talking about Pig's vote? Somberbrero posted:I disagree with that, I think it's a solid scum tell to ask people to generate content for you rather than pushing your own opinions. If you had said "I think [x], what do you think FV?" then I would view it differently, but you waited for her to form an opinion before putting forth your own. Obviously everything is contextual but I don't like how you made that move. I've done this a lot in the past and basically the way it works is if I see an active poster who isn't directly commenting on the game I ask them about something I have opinions on. The reason I wait for them to answer to present my own opinions is that I don't want to taint their perspective or have them see their answer as wrong.
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You don't see how scummy that method is? You're describing fence-sitting.
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Sep 3, 2014 18:36
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Somberbrero posted:You don't see how scummy that method is? You're describing fence-sitting. Really I don't see asking questions and also giving opinions as scummy. Maybe it came across poorly this game but I think overall there's nothing wrong with either of things separately or together. Someber, I feel like this is about to go in circles. Can you tell me what joke you were referring to here: Somberbrero posted:You were trying to draw inferences from an obvious joke. I don't buy that as 'saying something.' Also can you sort of state all your points against me, I'd like some clarity here.
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Sep 3, 2014 18:50
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let's try and get along guys, we only have each other
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Sep 3, 2014 18:56
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CapitalistPig posted:How does all that being wrong feel? 
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Sep 3, 2014 18:56
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Everything cpig posted was obviously untrue. n0 investigations should really stupid.CapitalistPig posted:My reasoning is that I lied about being blocked n0. my points are 1) You took cpig seriously for some reason, that exchange reads to me like he just called out your scumbuddy and you're trying to figure out how to play it. I also don't know why you would try to dismiss Jedit's vote, the reasoning is pretty clear and he's not wrong. 2) I don't like you saying 'oh hey fv please give me an opinion that sounds reasonable' right after the cpig stuff. 3) Your counter-reasoning feels fake and dismissive. Maybe you're confused but it reads more like you're just brushing me off.
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Somberbrero posted:1) You took cpig seriously for some reason, that exchange reads to me like he just called out your scumbuddy and you're trying to figure out how to play it. I also don't know why you would try to dismiss Jedit's vote, the reasoning is pretty clear and he's not wrong. Ok. I'll go through this. 1) I am a sucker, what can I say? I do think you should generally take people seriously. I think you're reading way too into a thing here. Also Jedit's vote was weird and eager. There was nothing wrong with that assessment. 2) I can't really say more about this than I already have. 3) I cannot see how I could be less dismissive while still arguing against your case. Like, I have actively engaged with you to clarify your points, understand them and then explain my perspective.
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Sep 3, 2014 19:23
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Also if N0 investigations are dumb which actions aren't? A Kill would mean a player wouldn't get to play the first day. Watcher/Tracker/Protect/Roleblock all depend on other Night actions happening, yet there were N0 actions in this game so clearly something happened.
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I'm not going to speculate extensively on the setup but a n0 investigation is so random. You get to look at the alignment of a player, who you have no read on since they've made no real points. Then if you're scum and you get hit by a n0 investigation, that's it? good game oh well luck of the draw? Again, this is what I mean by 'dismissive.' Now we're speculating on setup. You're addressing what I'm saying without really addressing it and you're pulling us away from content. I don't expect to convince you, I expect to convince other people.
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Sep 3, 2014 19:31
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Sorry you didn't have a N0 action, Somber
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Sep 3, 2014 19:37
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N0 actions are the best actions, sorry chumps
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Sep 3, 2014 19:41
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You're speculating on setup, my point was that I don't know the setup and thus making assumptions about it is bad. Defence against a case isn't pulling away from content it literally is content that people can use to make decisions. Let's try this: Do you have any questions for me? Is there something I've said you think needs explaining?
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I think that there is certainly some room available for setup speculation, considering the makeup of the game. We know what roles are present in the game, but we don't know what these roles actually mean. I have trouble imagining a scenario where CPig actually has a N0 investigation, given the nature of the game, though. It is possible, but I think it's more likely that CPig is taking the piss as he is prone to do.
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Meinberg posted:I think that there is certainly some room available for setup speculation, considering the makeup of the game. We know what roles are present in the game, but we don't know what these roles actually mean. I have trouble imagining a scenario where CPig actually has a N0 investigation, given the nature of the game, though. It is possible, but I think it's more likely that CPig is taking the piss as he is prone to do. Pig confirmed he was lying.
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Sep 3, 2014 19:56
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My Cpig would never tell a lie. Say it ain't so, Cpig
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Sep 3, 2014 19:58
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Juanito posted:My Cpig would never tell a lie. Say it ain't so, Cpig I lied, but Jedit still needs to be the d1 lynch. Turbo if possible.
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Sep 3, 2014 20:06
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MildManeredManikin posted:Let's try this: Do you have any questions for me? Is there something I've said you think needs explaining? Who are your scumbuddies?
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MildManeredManikin posted:Pig confirmed he was lying. That'll teach me to read at 3am. CapitalistPig posted:I lied, but Jedit still needs to be the d1 lynch. Turbo if possible. Any particular reason? Or just because it'd be funny?
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Sep 3, 2014 20:09
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CapitalistPig posted:I lied, but Jedit still needs to be the d1 lynch. Turbo if possible. you broke my heart
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Sep 3, 2014 20:10
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Meinberg posted:That'll teach me to read at 3am. Do we need reasons to lynch Jedit now?
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Haven't seen Jedit in awhile, don't want to kill him right away
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