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CLAM DOWN posted:the world outside America! You're using English words, but in this arrangement they don't mean anything. Are you missing punctuation?
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I don't even understand - a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts is $9 by itself, how are you keeping your food budgets so low? You guys must be drinking less Mountain Dew than me or something. My wife and I spend about $1,000/mo on food - need to damned eat out less. (that said I'm having Torchy's Tacos for lunch today and it's gonna be amazing) MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 18:16
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I spend waaaay too much money on food, and it's pretty much all because I can't really bring my own lunch to work.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:29
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Food talk: Food is my primary hobby. I eat out for most of my meals, mostly at places I haven't been yet, though I don't snack and I don't eat a lot of meals, so I remain only slightly overweight  I haven't really kept track of my spending, but I'd guestimate $500-600/month just for me.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:30
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I'd probably save tons if I cooked at home but I live right in middle of downtown. It's hard to say no when it's only a minute of walking to good pizza,burgers,beer,tacos,etc...
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Sep 4, 2014 18:40
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Tab8715 posted:It's hard to say no when it's only a minute of walking to good pizza,burgers,beer,tacos,etc... My biggest regret about living in a small city is that I can't do this. Every time I'm in a real urban area I get overwhelmed by close, cheap and awesome food and it's bliss.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:51
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:My biggest regret about living in a small city is that I can't do this. Every time I'm in a real urban area I get overwhelmed by close, cheap and awesome food and it's bliss. Last time I was in Manhattan I found a place called Prosperity Dumpling -- 10 for $2 When I left, I felt like I was leaving them behind. Ten cabbage/pork dumplings for two freaking dollars, my god The dumpling place in my city is like 12 for $7.
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's funny when Americans get shocked at how expensive food can be elsewhere  My post was of course hyperbole. But considering Dogstile's post concerning the bare minimum, £80 a week is far from it. Foreign supermarkets such as Aldi and Lidl have caused the bigger, more established shops such as Tesco, Asda etc to engage in a massive price cut war. It's entirely possible to live on £20 a week. You won't enjoy it though.
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Comradephate posted:Food talk: Food is my primary hobby. Me too, except cooking it, not eating out I mean, I love to eat at restaurants, but it's expensive as gently caress and since I have no willpower I always end up ordering something incredibly unhealthy. I find cooking fun, relaxing, and a nice creative outlet after being down in the technical trenches all day. Same reason my other hobby is Not really surprised by others' food budgets, though. Across multiple companies, I always seem to be the only guy in the office who brings his own lunch. Every day people go out and spend $10-15 on the one meal. Which brings just their lunch budget close to my entire monthly food spend. I don't care, buy whatever makes you happy. Just a trend I've noticed, no one cooks anymore. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 20:56
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's funny when Americans get shocked at how expensive food can be elsewhere Relative to whom? I bought a whole goat in Afghanistan for $15.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:56
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psydude posted:Relative to whom? I bought a whole goat in Afghanistan for $15. Was it alive? Bad deal man.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:57
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CLAM DOWN posted:Was it alive? Bad deal man. Killed that morning. I had a professional butcher in my platoon who cleaned and cut it. We actually probably did get ripped off, but we'd been eating rations for 7 days at that point so we decided to splurge a little.
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psydude posted:Relative to whom? I bought a whole goat in Afghanistan for $15. Was it this goat? Cause hey, free shepherd protein. Mildly NWS but only if you work in Nazi Germany. http://prepperchimp.com/2014/08/03/video-israeli-drone-captures-hamas-forces-having-sex-with-goats/
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Sep 4, 2014 21:18
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:A good thing I'm British then! Well I mentioned I could live far cheaper. But £80 covers eating out once a week, which everyone my age seems to want to do. It's definitely possible to live a hell of a lot cheaper, but you'd be miserable.
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Sep 4, 2014 21:42
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Docjowles posted:Just a trend I've noticed, no one cooks anymore. Eh, sort of... It's a social thing too and sometimes I just want to get out of the office.
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Sep 4, 2014 21:44
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I'd rather cook for 8 than go out and eat with them
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Sep 4, 2014 21:48
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 I'm not sure what to think about this. There's apparently a demand for this product.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm not sure what to think about this. There's apparently a demand for this product. Gotta make that money
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Possibly YOTJ  Have a call in 2 minutes with a Triple CCIE I interviewed with last year but his boss wouldn't hire a PM for me to work with, now they have a better and actually available position for me.
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Dick Trauma posted:We have two large locations that have their own I.T. staff. One has its own I.T. Manager and two guys, the other place has a phone guy and an I.T. support person. They report to their site VPs. Over the years my various bosses have tried to strong-arm me into providing "oversight" of these two teams without giving me the Director title and more pay. Each time I bring up getting the appropriate title they hem and haw and talk about my basically doing what they want first and then maybe they'll make the change, as if I haven't already proven I know how to do this drat job well. This got glanced over but... If you refuse the promotion, you stay where you are and nothing changes. If you accept the promotion you don't get the title or salary increase but despite this your for all intents and purposes a manager. Your no longer a tech responsible for just some system or whatevers in your ticket que but an entire IT Infrastructure - which is essentially the business because we all know how important IT is... If things go well, you can go to your supervisor and prove to them how you've prevented outages and helped make whatever systems more efficient. Then you're totally open to demanding the appropriate title and compensation. Of course, they may bullshit you but you're still technically a manager. That's when you start applying for other IT Management positions. Granted, it may be difficult with your title but a carefully worded Cover Letter or interview conversation explaining your circumstance may just open the right door. If you want to be even more methodical, get all buddy-buddy with your techs. When you quit, tell where you're going and open positions 
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Sep 4, 2014 23:03
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Tab8715 posted:If things go well, you can go to your supervisor and prove to them how you've prevented outages and helped make whatever systems more efficient. Then you're totally open to demanding the appropriate title and compensation. Right, this is how you could handle it if you were dealing with adults who viewed you as a human being, and not a toy ball on the end of an elastic band. Were I in his place, the last thing I would be inclined to do is extend any more benefit of the doubt to the people who have so far offered me nothing more than vague mumbling.
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Epilogue: I was going to use the job offer to at least try to get a raise, but right after I declined the offer, the digital copy of it became inaccessible. Kids, print a hard copy of your offers. Anyway, I said gently caress it, I'll bluff. I came to my boss this afternoon and somberly told him the offer was still pending (even said it was higher than it was) and I needed to know whether or not my current job will give me a $6/hr raise before end of day, so I can know whether or not I'm going to take the new job. Boss called the HR director who then pulled boss, CFO, and CEO into a surprise meeting. My boss walks by me on the way out from work like "Nice work, they gave you the full $30/hr". I told him about the bluff and he laughed (he hates this place as much as me). I'm ashamed I left them grift me for so long but I'll get over it a little faster now.
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Zero VGS posted:I told him about the bluff Why would you do this?
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Congratulations, that's hilarious and awesome, but yeah, tipping your hand like that? That doesn't sound like a way of doing things where they necessarily stay done.
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Sep 4, 2014 23:34
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Looks like I'm going to be leaving NetApp to go to a VAR and be a Pre/Post-Sales Consultant. Slightly less money, but they have unlimited PTO, zero-dollar health care (for the employee, at least) and some other nice perks, in addition to giving me a chance to work with some technology that I haven't gotten to play with as much since I've been at NetApp. Should be a nice change of pace. NetApp is a really excellent company to work for though, and if you ever get a chance I would highly recommend it. They treated me really well.
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Nah, we're cool, he gives no fucks how much I'm paid and in fact he'd rather I be paid more so I don't go and he's hosed over. He told me months ago he's going around applying, so we're at that kind of relationship.
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Tab8715 posted:What is pre or posts sales anyhow? Pre-Sales: Meet with the customer, discuss their needs and requirements, propose hardware/software purchases that will help them meet those requirements, come up with plan to implement the stuff you've just sold. Post-Sales: Actually implement that plan.
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Tab8715 posted:What is pre or posts sales anyhow? Pre-sales is where you come in pre-agreement and say "hey look at all the cool poo poo we can do for you give us moneys." The hours you put in are at risk (i.e. you might not get any money from them ever) and the end result is a limited functionality proof-of-concept. Post-sales is the actual real deal project where they're paying you to do something. Kind of the same concept as drug dealers giving you a little taste for free to get you hooked.
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It's also a good opportunity to set out the actual product capabilities before sales-sales gets involved.
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Tab8715 posted:This got glanced over but... I should've made it clear that my title is I.T. Manager, and I'm the sole I.T. person for the entire company outside of those two locations. So that's about 130+ people, 20+ sites, two states, etc. I have no staff. So no one's offering me a promotion, they're just once again trying to herd me into taking this on for nothing other than their persistent disdain. I've been through three annual reviews where when I brought up that the I.T. Director is what's appropriate for my responsibilities they always say "Well let's see how things go over the next year" as if I'm some sort of probie instead a proven employee with a fuckload of I.T. management experience. So they can give me what's right, or can me, or let me stay but keep looking at me funny or... I don't know. I'm weary of working at places where they can't do the basics. I'd love for my work challenge to be the work, not my bosses.
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Dick Trauma posted:I'd love for my work challenge to be the work, not my bosses. Wouldn't we all. I guess it's just too much to expect a boss to have your back in the face of unreasonable demands, run interference when you're trying to get things done, and shield you from corporate politics. It's especially bad when the boss is non-technical and doesn't really understand what value IT brings to the company; it's like having a dean of medicine who isn't even a doctor.
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I just want to say thanks to a couple of people in this thread, namely Fiendish Dr. Wu, for giving me the confidence to finally chase a spot in IT. I've been in touch with a couple different places and things are looking pretty promising, I hope to switch jobs by the end of the year!
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SamDabbers posted:Wouldn't we all. I guess it's just too much to expect a boss to have your back in the face of unreasonable demands, run interference when you're trying to get things done, and shield you from corporate politics. I've had plenty of decent to great bosses. This thread can be pretty fatalistic sometimes and it leads to people thinking that there are no good jobs, good bosses, or good companies out there, so they should just suck it up and suffer. You have to be proactive about looking for those things and advocating for yourself, but they are out there. Alternately, work to become the boss and do things the right way.
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drat Nips, you're going to leave NetApp? Isn't that one of the best places to work in the country? Pre/Post sales can be fun I guess, I would get tired of the meetings and power points though.
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NippleFloss posted:Pre-Sales: Meet with the customer, discuss their needs and requirements, propose hardware/software purchases that will help them meet those requirements, come up with plan to implement the stuff you've just sold. This is accurate, but do note that often Pre-Sales' plan is a PowerPoint slide with a single bullet reading "Post-Sales Will Figure it Out."
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SamDabbers posted:Wouldn't we all. I guess it's just too much to expect a boss to have your back in the face of unreasonable demands, run interference when you're trying to get things done, and shield you from corporate politics. It's especially bad when the boss is non-technical and doesn't really understand what value IT brings to the company; it's like having a dean of medicine who isn't even a doctor. It's not too much to expect. It's exactly what you should expect, among a number of other things. This is how I go into a new gig: everyone gets the benefit of the doubt, I expect to be treated a certain way, and in return I operate in good faith. I think that's a pretty good deal for the people I'm working with and for. I am, however, always prepared for disappointment, and if it happens they suddenly have a real hard time getting me to take their word on anything.
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NippleFloss posted:I've had plenty of decent to great bosses. This thread can be pretty fatalistic sometimes and it leads to people thinking that there are no good jobs, good bosses, or good companies out there, so they should just suck it up and suffer. You have to be proactive about looking for those things and advocating for yourself, but they are out there. I'm 47 and I've had one great boss, one good one and a couple of ok ones. This is across decades and industries, public and private. When I was a director I worked hard to be the kind of boss I wanted and my staff told me I'd accomplished that so I've seen things from the other side too. That said I understand my experience is unusual. Most people won't have as many jobs as me, or as many lovely bosses
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Does anyone have experience in human cloning, DNA replication, etc? I've got a new sys admin on my team, he's been here probably 3 months. I wish I could plant a whole field of him. I'm thinking of holding a team meeting in which I scream "why aren't you Aaron" in everyone's face in turn.
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