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Meinberg posted:As loathe as I am to agree with CPig, I think that scum very well might be Jedit. That early vote on MMM still strikes me as the single most out of place post in the game. It just jumps out at me when I read the thread. I mean, sure, he could be joking, or he could be trying to build a case and build momentum. This is awful and I would vote Meinberg for it. Jedit already said he was joking, and I don't know how Meinberg missed it when reviewing his post history to make the case. Plus how is commenting that we went back to joke phase scummy? The argument doesn't even make sense. Thoughts everyone?
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Somberbrero posted:I'm trying to make sure we don't no-lynch! That argument holds no water because you don't know what roles were locked down or why. It being nonsensical to have a scum Cop, it would make sense for that to be one of the locked down roles.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:23
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Meinberg posted:With ten minutes to deadline, I'm not sure if it is possible to avoid a no lynch. MMM is essentially a double voter today. So we could get a lynch on Jedit.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:23
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##vote Jedit I'm not going in on Meinberg and I'll take what's possible over a no-lunch. Sorry Jedit.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:23
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fiery_valkyrie posted:MMM is essentially a double voter today. So we could get a lynch on Jedit. Do you want me to full claim?
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Sep 6, 2014 00:24
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Jedit posted:That argument holds no water because you don't know what roles were locked down or why. It being nonsensical to have a scum Cop, it would make sense for that to be one of the locked down roles. That's the entire point of a game with randomized roles.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:24
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Somberbrero posted:##vote Jedit I'm not going in on Meinberg and I'll take what's possible over a no-lunch. Sorry Jedit. You said earlier that Meinberg seemed ok from mason chat didn't you? Can you elaborate? He's seemed pretty scummy in game.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:25
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He's way less awkward in mason chat and actually explains his thoughts and puts in more work than he does here. I have no clue why he doesn't just post what he writes there.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:26
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##vote Jedit
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Sep 6, 2014 00:26
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Full claim: I am a Mason Recruiter.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:27
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Jedit posted:Full claim: I am a Mason Recruiter. What's the name of your role?
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Sep 6, 2014 00:27
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Jedit posted:Full claim: I am a Mason Recruiter. He recruited me, yeah. Is that scummy?`
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Sep 6, 2014 00:27
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In a different masonry?
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Sep 6, 2014 00:27
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Winson knows this to be true because I recruited him, and I think his "other reasons" are that he is scum and knows I'm useful.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:27
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Sep 6, 2014 00:28
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Jedit posted:Winson knows this to be true because I recruited him, and I think his "other reasons" are that he is scum and knows I'm useful. My other reasons were that you recruited me and I thought you were gonna turn me into a zombie or some poo poo
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Sep 6, 2014 00:28
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That's 2 people in different masonries with Winson that think he's scummy.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:28
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Meinberg posted:What's the name of your role? I'm the Hocus - which I didn't want to say, because it's described as Cult Leader on the wiki but I'm not a Cultist. I can't be investigated because I'm insane.
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Sep 6, 2014 00:29
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##vote Winson
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Sep 6, 2014 00:29
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fiery_valkyrie posted:That's 2 people in different masonries with Winson that think he's scummy. I am town but find my role baffling and somewhat useless but it looks like the clock is gonna tick out here
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Votecount for Day 1  Jedit (4): CapitalistPig, Somberbrero (1): CapitalistPig, Jedit, Winson_Paine (1): Jedit Meinberg (1): Grandicap Mr. Maltose (0): fiery_valkyrie, CapitalistPig (0): Meinberg, Hal Incandenza, MildManeredManikin (0): Somberbrero, CapitalistPig, Not Voting (4): Juanito, MildManeredManikin, Mr. Maltose, Winson_PaineWith 11 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch. The current deadline is September 05th, 2014 at 7:30 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 0 minutes. Day 1 Has ended. It is now Night 1. Night 1 will last until approximately until Sunday evening, approximately 48 hours from now - or earlier if all actions are in and I have time to post.
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As the new day dawns, everyone reconvenes, eyeing each other warily. Some with suspicions, some with trust. But again, could anyone be really trusted? And then the difference between yesterday and today is clear: Mr. Maltose, World-Aligned Savvyhead, was killed Night 1! quote:If there’s one loving thing you can count on in Apocalypse World, it’s: things break. It is now Day 2.
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Sep 7, 2014 23:01
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Votecount for Day 2 Not Voting (10): CapitalistPig, fiery_valkyrie, Grandicap, Hal Incandenza, Jedit, Juanito, Meinberg, MildManeredManikin, Somberbrero, Winson_Paine With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch. The current deadline is September 09th, 2014 at 11:30 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 5 hours.
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Sep 7, 2014 23:02
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Interesting. The scum have picked off one of Somber's masonry. If we're presuming there's scum in there, the candidates are now him, Grandi, Meinberg and Winson.
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Sep 7, 2014 23:18
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 FULL DISCLOSURE: I hosed UP, SOMEONE'S ACTION FAILED LAST NIGHT THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE. THIS HAS ALTERED THE FLOW OF THE GAME AND INFORMATION WAS REVEALED THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN, SO WE'RE JUST ROLLING WITH IT.
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Sep 8, 2014 00:24
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Did Maltose tell the masonry his N0 results?
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Sep 8, 2014 00:44
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Did Maltose tell the masonry his N0 results? He only told us who he targeted. I dunno guys. I think the idea that there must be a scrum in the biggest masonry is maybe dumb, could be a huge red herring. There's no real reasoning behind it other than that it is statistically a little more probable.
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Sep 8, 2014 01:11
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At least 1 of 5 players in a 13 player game being scum is likely without the masonry part of it.
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Sep 8, 2014 01:17
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MildManeredManikin posted:At least 1 of 5 players in a 13 player game being scum is likely without the masonry part of it. Hey, why'd you cause us to no-lunch yesterday?
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Sep 8, 2014 01:21
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MildManeredManikin posted:At least 1 of 5 players in a 13 player game being scum is likely without the masonry part of it. Agreed. Somber your post reads like you are trying to get us to only scum hunt outside of the masonry. Is that what you meant?
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Sep 8, 2014 01:31
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Somberbrero posted:Hey, why'd you cause us to no-lunch yesterday? We weren't at -2 before I got to work, I tried to wait as long as I could before I started my shift but I couldn't really prioritize a mafia game.
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MildManeredManikin posted:At least 1 of 5 players in a 13 player game being scum is likely without the masonry part of it. A) It's actually 11 players B) I ran the numbers If there's 2 scum, then there's a ~27% that no one in the masonry is scum, based on random distribution. If there's three scum, only ~12%. Three scum seems unlikely, but possible. 2 scum and a 3P is more probable.
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Sep 8, 2014 01:50
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Meinberg posted:A) It's actually 11 players Meinberg I've played enough games with you to know you like this side of things, but for the love of god could you please actually comment on some players/tell us who you think is scum.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Meinberg I've played enough games with you to know you like this side of things, but for the love of god could you please actually comment on some players/tell us who you think is scum. Jedit is my #1 scum candidate. I don't like the way he was reluctant to share his role's name, and the way he acted like revealing what his role was would exonerate him, in this, a game with mostly randomized alignments. There are a few roles I have in my mind that would be ideal for the set alignments, but the Hocus absolutely isn't one of them. Which means that I have only his behavior to fall back on, and it just pings my gut as scummy.
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Hi idk if this is the time to mention role stuff but I am pretty sure Jedit is clean.
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Yo, mason buddies to the mason doc please.
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The members of the masonry were public? I mist have missed that!
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Somberbrero posted:Sure, why not. It's not like anything else is happening. I'm in an unconfirmed mason group with Winson, Grandi, Meinberg, and Maltose. I can't vote any of them today. It should be temporary and it's related to other stuff. I have had pretty good interactions with Meinberg and Grandi and I feel fairly confident they're town. If I had to guess that one player in my group it'd be Winson, based on something he said about how he was planning on exercising as much caution as possible which struck me as odd. Could easily be Maltose though, dude has hardly been around.
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Meinberg posted:Jedit is my #1 scum candidate. I don't like the way he was reluctant to share his role's name, and the way he acted like revealing what his role was would exonerate him, in this, a game with mostly randomized alignments. There are a few roles I have in my mind that would be ideal for the set alignments, but the Hocus absolutely isn't one of them. Well, that's complete bullshit, because the Hocus absolutely is a likely candidate for set alignment. The wiki even describes the character by the name of a role that is by definition third party. That role is also impossibly dangerous, which is why I was reluctant to claim; I already explained this. Luckily for you, Foo is not stupid enough to put an investigation-proof Cult Leader with a Night 0 recruit in an 11-player game. It does, however, provide a good distraction for the scum.
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We have been talking about this in the mason doc at some length, but I think Jedit is unlikely to be scum and unlikely to be a cult as well. This is an 11 player game, first off, that is not a large enough game to support a cult. On top of that there was a nightkill. Having both a scum team and a cult would be absurd in an 11 player game. It could be over D3 (3 lynches, 2 night kills, 2 recruits = 6 Alive, 3 in the cult) and town could still be "doing well" if they lynch the scum in that scenario.
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