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temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Rocky was an upsale of Lil B. Now that basegod's star has dimmed, Rocky doesn't have an audience. It was pretty shrewd how someone capitalized off the the swag trend like that and I hope RCA or Sony bought them a boat that year.

SchoolboyQ has "it" but he is stuck on the westcoast. He could be like 2Chainz and have a 2nd career if he ever leaves TDE.

Kendrick's success isn't weird IMO but it is impressive that he could pull of being the "deep but relatable" westcoast Nas thing. Many have tried.

People rather listen to Busdriver but not Childish Gambino *camron face*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r39sRNV3TmE

temple fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Sep 11, 2014

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This rules

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

temple posted:

Rocky was an upsale of Lil B. Now that basegod's star has dimmed, Rocky doesn't have an audience. It was pretty shrewd how someone capitalized off the the swag trend like that and I hope RCA or Sony bought them a boat that year.

SchoolboyQ has "it" but he is stuck on the westcoast. He could be like 2Chainz and have a 2nd career if he ever leaves TDE.

Kendrick's success isn't weird IMO but it is impressive that he could pull of being the "deep but relatable" westcoast Nas thing. Many have tried.

Rocky has "it" as much as any rapper out right now. His audience is people who like his good songs? I get what you're saying with the swag stuff but calling him a rich mans Lil B is retarded.

Schoolboys career is way bigger than 2 Chainz's was as Tity Boi. He'll be fine he just released a pretty mediocre album. I don't know if it's a good indicator but his song Studio is on the Sirius stations at least 30 times a day. And he's doing sold out shows around the country/world. He doesn't need TDE at all though. I don't need TDE at all though either

And that's pretty much what I meant by Kendrick's success being weird. He's pretty much the only rapper in his lane and doesn't really have any direct competitors I feel.

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008
I think I'm leaning toward agreeing with temple on this, even the Lil B comparison, mainly because Rocky's best poo poo pretty much is completely tied to getting some of Clams Casino's best beats (similar to Lil B), and he is completely ordinary on most everything else. I think it's a situation where he might just be a lucky product of a good producer's prime.

Schoolboy Q released what was honestly a pretty boring album aside from a few cuts, I don't understand what him being on the west coast has to do with anything, it's LA, not loving Minnesota.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
I think SchoolboyQ could bigger at a different label.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



40 lbs to freedom posted:

ive hated chris brown probably since i was aware he was a person but loyal was a fuckin jam and this song with kendrick is also very cool. still having a hard time separating the music from the dude but this song is good.

I wouldn't say I'm a Chris Brown fan or anything but the guy has some decent songs and I can't really be bothered to care about his personal life when half the poo poo I listen to is about being crack dealing murderers.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


EATIN SHRIMP posted:

Rocky has "it" as much as any rapper out right now. His audience is people who like his good songs? I get what you're saying with the swag stuff but calling him a rich mans Lil B is retarded.

Schoolboys career is way bigger than 2 Chainz's was as Tity Boi. He'll be fine he just released a pretty mediocre album. I don't know if it's a good indicator but his song Studio is on the Sirius stations at least 30 times a day. And he's doing sold out shows around the country/world. He doesn't need TDE at all though. I don't need TDE at all though either

And that's pretty much what I meant by Kendrick's success being weird. He's pretty much the only rapper in his lane and doesn't really have any direct competitors I feel.

Rich man's lil b isn't a bad comparison if you look at how his music is presented/consumed rather than the content of their respective work. Stylistically he's almost nothing like Lil B (besides having a lazy flow) and he's a lot less creative or interesting, but he does have a similar appeal. That all sounds negative but I don't think he's bad (and tbh his albums were pretty decent), I just don't think he's that special and he's riding a wave of popularity due to how his image fits in with some current trends, rather than any appreciation for him music. I will say though it'll be interesting how his next stuff is received, since unlike a lot of younger dudes who came out around that time he's not put out music every 6 months or whatever. Tyler is actually probably a better comp for his career-mixtape that build buzz for a debut that was decently received, buzz dies down while he waits to release an album on a more traditional release schedule. You even have Earl playing ASAP Ferg's role of the dude whose arguably better in his crew (although it ends there as all of OF, including Jasper who is pretty much horrible, is better than ASAP Mob). That's about where I see Rocky coming out-easily able to make a career at music and get attention as someone right on the edge of mainstream-underground recognition.


I agree with you a bit about Kendrick though. Arguably dudes like J.Cole and his ilk would be his competition, but he's so far out of their league as a rapper it's not really competition. Somehow he got to make an album that has nothing on it that sounds like radio pandering, and it actually did well.

And you dudes do realize that Q's album was released on Interscope same as Kendrick's right? Don't know why you dudes would get the idea TDE is holding him back or anything unless you also think it's holding back Kendrick. And fwiw when I mentioned him before I was speaking more on the quality of his album rather than any comment on how successful I think he'll be (since honestly it seems almost random at this point).

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



I have no idea how Q managed to get 2 Chainz to feature on a Mike Will beat and somehow made the least radio friendly song on his album (this is a slight exaggeration)

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Half of the rappers living or dead have been under Interscope's umbrella at some point. Being on Interscope means gently caress all. It's all about management at this point. But for whatever reason, the industry is dominated by people out of Miami, Atlanta, and NY (excepting Houston). Macklemore and Kendrick broke the curse but west coast rappers tend to be big only on the west coast. In a world were French Montana had a run, SchoolboyQ should be able to do better. I'd say RiffRaff and Action Bronson are probably more well known, featured, "relevant" than a lot of west coast rappers and they are bit players at best.

It is funny that Chef Keef arguably got worse after he signed at Interscope.

temple fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Sep 11, 2014

Cobra Commander
Jan 18, 2011



I have the actual disc for Oxymoron and it was the only cd I had while in my last car. I think I listened to it at least 50 times. I think its actually really underrated. Sure it's not as good as GKMC, but it definitely has some great songs.



Check this Youtube channel out for like every drat new Gucci thing,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vonLRoK14mM

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


temple posted:

Half of the rappers living or dead have been under Interscope's umbrella at some point. Being on Interscope means gently caress all. It's all about management at this point. But for whatever reason, the industry is dominated by people out of Miami, Atlanta, and NY (excepting Houston). Macklemore and Kendrick broke the curse but west coast rappers tend to be big only on the west coast. In a world were French Montana had a run, SchoolboyQ should be able to do better. I'd say RiffRaff and Action Bronson are probably more well known, featured, "relevant" than a lot of west coast rappers and they are bit players at best.

It is funny that Chef Keef arguably got worse after he signed at Interscope.

The same managers who got Kendrick known are also handling Q, so I don't see how being on interscope is meaningless. The industry is hardly dominated by any city, and if it was the only one you mentioned you could make a case for would be Atlanta. Nobody outside of NY gives a gently caress about NY anymore, and the people there don't even care that much anymore it seems. And Bronson & riff raff are more well known and featured than a lot of dudes, many of whom are in NY so I don't see how that proves anything.

Also fwiw Q sold like double what French did, so it's not like dude's done nothing. 200k isn't amazing, but in the current climate it's definitely not bad for a somewhat niche dude's first major label album.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Speaking of Atlanta this just dropped and it's so bouncy and addicting. Not a Rome fortune fan but he's great here and makkonen on the hook is the poo poo pretty much always

http://soundcloud.com/romefortune/friendsmaybe-feat-ilovemakonnen-prod-by-money-karlo-1

Edit: idk anyone on this track or the producer but it bangs http://soundcloud.com/famousonthebeatz/dirtydance

Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Sep 11, 2014

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Cobra Commander posted:

I have the actual disc for Oxymoron and it was the only cd I had while in my last car. I think I listened to it at least 50 times. I think its actually really underrated. Sure it's not as good as GKMC, but it definitely has some great songs.



Check this Youtube channel out for like every drat new Gucci thing,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vonLRoK14mM

i've listened to oxy several times and it's one of those albums without a weak track imo. i listen to the whole thing every time.

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax
stream of new joell ortiz tape

http://2dopeboyz.com/2014/09/11/joell-ortiz-house-slippers-stream/

decent i think?

Bulging Nipples
Jan 16, 2006

temple posted:

Half of the rappers living or dead have been under Interscope's umbrella at some point. Being on Interscope means gently caress all. It's all about management at this point. But for whatever reason, the industry is dominated by people out of Miami, Atlanta, and NY (excepting Houston). Macklemore and Kendrick broke the curse but west coast rappers tend to be big only on the west coast. In a world were French Montana had a run, SchoolboyQ should be able to do better. I'd say RiffRaff and Action Bronson are probably more well known, featured, "relevant" than a lot of west coast rappers and they are bit players at best.


I'm sort of surprised Action Bronson isn't more known at this point, just purely out of a viral sort of "look at this crazy fuckin guy" youtube epic meal time kinda way. I got a lot of respect for the guy though, he's a great rapper and he's also just firmly doing his own thing. He works with a lot of great producers too, and just makes a whole lot of unique music. He's come a long way since everyone was calling him the "white ghostface". Love his work.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


praise be to the trap lord
https://soundcloud.com/sbtrkt/sbtrkt-voices-in-my-head-ft-asap-ferg

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

you could at least pretend you read the thread. it's 1 page back dude

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


I may repost things sometimes, but at least I don't watch anime. I think I still come out on top here

Content: I'm drunk so I'm swaggin under influence
http://soundcloud.com/1017_records/gucci-mane-ft-wale-used-to-it

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

Profondo Rosso posted:

I may repost things sometimes, but at least I don't watch anime. I think I still come out on top here

Content: I'm drunk so I'm swaggin under influence
http://soundcloud.com/1017_records/gucci-mane-ft-wale-used-to-it
you have literal mental problems you ask for help for on something awful. thanks for the incredibly pathetic act of getting drunk and posting on the internet. hey here's an idea: how about you don't post random links with no discussion and gently caress off instead. but no really thank you 18 year old white boy that posts about his severe depression a lot. you the real mvp

Budget Prefuse fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Sep 12, 2014

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

Budget Cop posted:

you have literal mental problems you ask for help for on something awful. thanks for the incredibly pathetic act of getting drunk and posting on the internet. hey her's an idea: how about you don't post random links with no discussion and gently caress off instead. but no really thank you 18 year old white boy that posts about his severe depression a lot. you the real mvp
lol tough words from an anime avatar

I AM BRAWW
Jul 18, 2014

Squinty Applebottom posted:

lol tough words from an anime avatar

Thanks for chipping in with this great post, YOSPOS regular Squinty Applebottom. :thumbsup:

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

Squinty Applebottom posted:

lol tough words from an anime avatar
ah poo poo it's the white IT yospos worker that casually listens to rap. thanks for coming here to school me bro. are you going to listen to "trill" music while programming code??

Squinty Applebottom posted:

finna cop that new shabbaz palaces.
ah i see you are literally the white it worker ironically using rap words sterotype. great

ahh poo poo im sorry i pissed off all the white nerds who only come in here to post a link and then gently caress off again. let me just get bullied out of my own culture by white devils. im sorry for actually being interested in rap beyond saying "that poo poo slaps son"

Budget Prefuse fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Sep 12, 2014

I AM BRAWW
Jul 18, 2014
Yea anyways, as someone who watches Anime casually and owns a bodypillow, and I'm probably a paedophile,, here's my two favourite things together that I'm posting for "Squinty Applebottom" and "Profondo Rosso".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DW31upNEEg

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
Why does doctor thodt not post here anymore?

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
I don't like Shabazz Palaces and I'll say it for everyone who's scared to.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Budget Cop posted:

you have literal mental problems you ask for help for on something awful. thanks for the incredibly pathetic act of getting drunk and posting on the internet. hey here's an idea: how about you don't post random links with no discussion and gently caress off instead. but no really thank you 18 year old white boy that posts about his severe depression a lot. you the real mvp

Thanks I appreciate it

Now instead of being a pissy whiner and writing paragraphs about random people on the internet I'm going to post some content ;)


http://soundcloud.com/hughbloww/opportunity

Description: cool rap music

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

Robert Analog posted:

Why does doctor thodt not post here anymore?
he hasn't posted at all for a couple months. he's probably just busy in real life which is too bad cuz i liked him


temple posted:

I don't like Shabazz Palaces and I'll say it for everyone who's scared to.
i'm actually pretty curious as to why you don't like them. i think you're the first person to actually say they outright dislike the group (although i know some people here said they disliked lese majesty)

Profondo Rosso posted:

Now instead of being a pissy whiner
that's funny coming from a guy who writes blog posts about his pathetic depression

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Budget Cop posted:

he hasn't posted at all for a couple months. he's probably just busy in real life which is too bad cuz i liked him

i'm actually pretty curious as to why you don't like them. i think you're the first person to actually say they outright dislike the group (although i know some people here said they disliked lese majesty)

that's funny coming from a guy who writes blog posts about his pathetic depression

Lolllll nice words about rap music oh wait

Edit: pathetic depression is my new favorite phrase tho so unironically thanks for that

Double edit: "white devils"

Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Sep 12, 2014

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

Budget Cop posted:

ah poo poo it's the white IT yospos worker that casually listens to rap. thanks for coming here to school me bro. are you going to listen to "trill" music while programming code??

ah i see you are literally the white it worker ironically using rap words sterotype. great

ahh poo poo im sorry i pissed off all the white nerds who only come in here to post a link and then gently caress off again. let me just get bullied out of my own culture by white devils. im sorry for actually being interested in rap beyond saying "that poo poo slaps son"

Thanks for taking something entirely out of context and making fun of depression while watching anime.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Budget Cop posted:

he hasn't posted at all for a couple months. he's probably just busy in real life which is too bad cuz i liked him

i'm actually pretty curious as to why you don't like them. i think you're the first person to actually say they outright dislike the group (although i know some people here said they disliked lese majesty)

that's funny coming from a guy who writes blog posts about his pathetic depression

It is too disjointed and abstract. Every time I play something, I think "What I am listening to?". I think it is rhythm or lack of it. I need a steady beat some way or how.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
come on people we had a really nice run of not getting derailed by completely inane bullshit...

I like Shabazz Palaces but that is a really valid criticism by temple above.

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Robert Analog posted:

Why does doctor thodt not post here anymore?

Been dealing with some really lovely medical issues that take up all of my time lately, but I still lurk the thread sometimes to keep up with what's going on in hip-hop. Nice to feel missed :)

I AM BRAWW
Jul 18, 2014
Is Jay Rock suppose to drop anything soon or has he been part of anything lately? Feels like I haven't heard anything regarding him in a while.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah

doctor thodt posted:

Been dealing with some really lovely medical issues that take up all of my time lately, but I still lurk the thread sometimes to keep up with what's going on in hip-hop. Nice to feel missed :)

That sucks man hope you get it sorted out

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
Get well doctor

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

I AM BRAWW posted:

Is Jay Rock suppose to drop anything soon or has he been part of anything lately? Feels like I haven't heard anything regarding him in a while.

He was supposed to drop his album after Ab-Soul, not sure if that's still the plan or if it got delayed again.

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

temple posted:

I don't like Shabazz Palaces and I'll say it for everyone who's scared to.

i, too, really dont like shabazz palaces im sorry i didnt make that clear enough so you felt alone

clipping is also garbage imo while we're at it

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

40 lbs to freedom posted:


clipping is also garbage imo while we're at it

+1

and +1 for the brave man or woman who will say death grips is gobbage

Antequek
May 30, 2014
I think Death Grips is trash, despite several of my friends trying to convince me otherwise.

oh and Hello https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV_astp3BjM

I just wanna say drat I've been sleeping on Kevin Gates. I found out about him via Cocaine Blunts post about his live show and I've had "Chasing Paper" stuck in my head all day.

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Dec 27, 2010

Happy 10 year anniversary to Drop it like it's Hot, the greatest song of all time.

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