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Penny Paper posted:Speaking of Mills College Anime Club, does anyone know where I can find a copy of that? I'm trying to submit evidence to the "gently caress No, TVTropes" tumblr on just how bad tropers are. BKPR posted:https://mega.co.nz/#!EIIXHZBS!oI7sBb4-Na9j9r6cqM-6Z8FunlmQT4KGn4rdQ8E2xSM
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Arcsquad12 posted:....loving Veggie Tales!? Yes.
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BlueDude posted:Dammit, I realized this after making the post. Oh well Wasn't "the gift" an M16 or something?
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Segmentation Fault posted:Wasn't "the gift" an M16 or something? I read it a while ago: all I know is that Barney's mother comes in and kills him. For content, have an entry from YKTTW: quote:Embarrassing Damp Sheets It has five hats (it's in the site rules that a YKTTW with five hats is pretty much ready to become a trope). ''The tropers are loving it.'' And here's the first comment for good measure: The guy who made the YKTTW posted:My reason for why this page should be created is that there were a lot of bedwetting examples on Potty Failure, so I thought that we should make a separate page for bedwetting/pooping the bed examples of that trope.
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Ague Proof posted:
No, this is TV Tropes. It's "Veggie Tales loving".
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As for non-fruit-fucker-related business:Super Smash Bros. posted:Rule of Three: The first one isn't abnormal in the slightest, but gets documented anyway. The second just screams "I HAVE TO FIT EVERYTHING INTO NEAT LITTLE TROPE BOXES!" quote:Self-Referential Humor: There's a Coke can with a Smash Ball on it in the background of the Distant Planet stage in Brawl. Since when is a simple cameo funny? quote:Shout Out: Again, likely just a coincidence. quote:Stealth Pun-Based Title: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU/3DS. Yet again, this is probably just a coincidence. ("HEY IT'S THE RULE OF THREE!! MUST CATALOG  ")Going through the page, it's rather sad just how far tropers have to reach just to add yet another precious trope for their favorite video game series.
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BlueDude posted:
Yup:  Unless the original Duck Hunt was referencing Banjo-Kazooie like a decade and a half before Banjo-Kazooie came out.
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I wish CrazyGoggs was still around. Are there any other Youtube channels about ridiculing insane poo poo from TV Tropes?
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Sep 14, 2014 02:39
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Segmentation Fault posted:Wasn't "the gift" an M16 or something? IIRC it was a piece of the egg Barney hatched from (which somehow survived for 65 million years) and they threw it into a hole which summoned Barney's mom from the Cretaceous period to kill him or something.
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Seasonal Rot The Price Is Right: For Season 18, host Bob Barker on some episodes looked lost and likely was bored, and there were backstage issues beginning to crop up with the staff. This also seems to be the point that the staleness and "phoned in" nature of the show in the 1990s began, not at all helped by then-announcer Rod Roddy's health problems making his announcing a lot less enthusiastic. Season 37, the second hosted by Drew Carey, was arguably worse. It added a lot of oddball Showcases that often demeaned Rod's successor, Rich Fields (to Drew's credit, he later admitted that the sketches didn't work), Rich became incredibly over-the-top, the pricing games' difficulty spiked, pricing games vanished without a trace, bizarre prizes began showing up, several infamous special guest appearances began, and several other higher-ups disappeared for various reasons. However, the show soon got over the growing pains of a new host and, while some still don't like the Carey era, complaints about it have subsided somewhat. Wheel of Fortune as well: Some fans criticize Season 14 for a large number of changes: most prominently, using only one Wheel template for the entire game as opposed to each round having its own set of dollar figures; adding several new categories, which some feel make the game too easy; and changing from a mechanical puzzle board to an electronic one halfway through the season, thus making Vanna White's job a lot less necessary for anything other than eye candy. Others point to Season 26, which had an increase in contrived puzzles (particularly in the form of too-specific Prize Puzzles and Fake Difficulty in the Bonus Round), less energy in the studio, a general decline in contestant quality, sloppier production, and the addition of a $1,000,000 cash prize in the Bonus Round). Different fans have criticized the following season. This was when the iconic Free Spin tokens, which had been associated with the show since the pilot, were ousted in favor of the Free Play wedge. In addition, the second Bankrupt became permanent starting with this season (before this point, the second Bankrupt generally appeared only in Rounds 2 and 3 and never in Round 1). Season 28 had several reasons, most egregiously the decision made following the death of longtime announcer Charlie O'Donnell: he had taped 40 more episodes that eventually did see air, but with his work dubbed over by various guests (although some of them also announced "live"). The show stated that it had been a tough decision, but better to do this than have the sadness of hearing his voice so close to his death. (Even worse, the reruns the following summer dubbed over the guest announcers, live or pre-recorded, with Charlie's replacement, Jim Thornton.) The decline of Jeopardy! is pinned to one of three seasons: 1997-98 (a change to a more bombastic mix of the iconic Think! music, the widely-panned "sushi bar" set which was kept until 2002, the first video clues read by celebrities, and an increase in punny category names and travel shows); 2001-02 (introduction of the Clue Crew, a set of Lovely Assistants who present more video clues, the doubling of dollar values, and host Alex Trebek shaving off his iconic Badass Mustache); 2003-04 (removal of the five-game cap for champions, followed within mere months by Ken Jennings' 74-game run that lasted into the next season, a decline in clue quality following the death of longtime writer Steven Dorfman, and Alex acting more goofy). Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? changed formats in the 2008-09 season, adding a timer to the questions — and stupidly, the timer counted down while host Meredith Vieira read the question instead of after she finished, thus whittling down the seconds. Any banked time was saved up for the million-dollar question, and the Lifelines changed. It changed again in the 2010-11 season to a "shuffle" format which has also been heavily criticized as straying even further from original Millionaire format. Some would go as far as to say 2002, when the show moved from ABC to syndication, while also replacing original host Regis Philbin with Meredith. #gameshowsgate And now for your SAT/GRE/LSAT/MCAT/WHOCARES practice question of the day. Consider the following passage: Although Season 5 got off to a good start, never mind the awkward cameo of the book shop owner, who was essentially a Stalker with a Crush, the mind probing which had a slight touch of squick in it, the awkward unseen break up between Olivia and Peter, and the final scene, which despite the mood altering song choice (Yazoo, really?) and the dandelion. Is this: a) An entry from TvTropes b) An excerpt from Finnegans Wake c) The linguistic flailing of a stroke victim d) Coherent in any way e) a & c
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Seasonal Rot Well, it can't be "c," because it goes on for too long and none of the words are misspelled, so I would have to go with..."a".
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Basic Trope: An adult (usually a man, though not always) in a relationship with an prepubescent girl. Played Straight: Alice is 12 years old, but she's already in a relationship with Bob, who is 24. Exaggerated: Alice is 12, and Bob is 80. Bob has full harem of girls between 8-12. Bob is a Time Abyss, and Alice is a toddler. Bob is 80, Alice is 2. Downplayed: Bob is 18, and Alice is 12. Justified: Alice and Bob are in a place and/or time period where girls were married off as soon as they reached puberty, usually to older men that could provide for them (and pay a nice bride price to her family.) Inverted: Shotacon Likes Older Women Subverted: Alice has just turned 18, and she's marrying Bob, who's 36. Alice is older than she looks and only looks like a young girl. Wife Husbandry Although Bob loves Alice, he knows that she's too young to make such an important decision. So he keeps a Like Brother and Sister relationship until she grows up. Double Subverted: But they got together when Alice was still in Junior High But Alice stopped aging physically at the age of 12. (And Bob is still attracted to her.) Alice makes a Childhood Marriage Promise with Bob and receives an engagement ring. Parodied: Bob comes out of the wedding chapel holding a baby that's all dolled up to look like a bride. or: Bob is really a year older than Alice, but everyone still calls him a Lolicon Deconstructed: First of all, this is generally illegal in this day and age. Secondly, Bob could be manipulating Alice, and Alice is (presumably) too young to know what's really best for her. Also, it can cause physical problems (injury and infertility) for the girl and her underdeveloped reproductive system. Reconstructed: Alice is not easily manipulated by older men and she's as mature as Bob. Besides, Bob has a change of heart and ends up truly loving Alice. They manage to live happy lives together, in secret. Lampshaded: "But he's your teacher!" Averted: Alice and Bob are both over (or both under) the age of consent. Enforced: May be used as Fetish Fuel. (As always, whether it is Fetish Fuel or Fetish Retardant is subjective.) Endemic to Japan: censorship laws do not allow pubic hair to be visible; this is a way of getting around that law. (Especially if the girl in question is a consenting adult but looks like a little girl. Invoked: Bob develops a crush on 12-year-old Alice, and attempts to seduce her. Defied: Bob acknowledges that Alice is pretty, but will not make any moves towards her until she reaches the age of consent. Discussed: "Isn't Alice a little young to be dating Bob?" Conversed: "Isn't Bob a little old to be even considering Alice? I mean, for God's sake, she's twelve!" Played For Laughs: The police arrest Bob for dating Alice, who is Really Seven Hundred Years Old. Bob has to explain himself, and (of course) the cops don't believe him... Alice is 20 years old, but she looks like a grade schooler and loves to dress as one. Bob, her boyfriend, is proud of this and they are never shy about acting like a typical couple in public. This causes awkward reactions, and often misunderstandings, from people who don't know them. Played For Drama: Bob is manipulating Alice. She believes that he loves her, but he's only paving the way for sex. Which happens...and leaves Alice either pregnant, or dead. Alternatively, Alice isn't so innocent as she looks, and is cynically manipulating Bob for her own ends, while Bob, a prisoner of his own attraction and Alice's mind games, can only follow along helplessly, knowing that if he slips up, or she gets bored with him, Alice can ruin his reputation and get him thrown in jail with ease and make herself look like the victim. Even if Alice and Bob really love each other, their relationship faces many obstacles. It finally ends when a Knight Templar murders Alice, and a heartbroken Bob commits suicide afterward.
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corn in the bible posted:Endemic to Japan: censorship laws do not allow pubic hair to be visible; this is a way of getting around that law. No it isn't.
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Sep 14, 2014 20:25
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Carpet bomb the TVTropes servers.
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Sep 14, 2014 20:33
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quote:Alternatively, Alice isn't so innocent as she looks, and is cynically manipulating Bob for her own ends, while Bob, a prisoner of his own attraction and Alice's mind games, can only follow along helplessly, knowing that if he slips up, or she gets bored with him, Alice can ruin his reputation and get him thrown in jail with ease and make herself look like the victim. Oh for Christ's sake. Of course they had to throw in a scenario where the girl is an evil dirty manipulative slut toying with the poor helpless pedophile, because to do otherwise could imply that *gasp* there is something wrong with people who get boners over 12-year old girls!! (i.e. 90% of TVTropes).
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ArchangeI posted:Carpet bomb the TVTropes servers. Carpet bomb the ashes to be sure.
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why do some people refer to most underage female characters (that aren't even sexualized, at all) as "loli"? I blame Rule 34. Then again, I sometimes refer to a character in one of my stories as a "loli" even though she's not meant as a Token Mini-Moe, and she's only a couple of years younger than the other characters in the Five-Man Band (who are around the age of 11 or 12, while she is between the ages of 8 and 10). This Troper submits that it is because those familiar with the term associate it not with an AGE but with a Body Type. i.e. short, slender, and petannko with nice legs. I think a lot of the problems could be solved by strictly defining lolicon as a subset of Hentai. If it's not porn, it's not lolicon, no matter how many panty shots there are. Some people says "loli" when addresing a lolicon (as in: "That guy likes little girls, he's such a loli") a serious case of Did Not Do the Research
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corn in the bible posted:why do some people refer to most underage female characters (that aren't even sexualized, at all) as "loli"?  These would have been right at home in a This Troper video.
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corn in the bible posted:Some people says "loli" when addresing a lolicon (as in: "That guy likes little girls, he's such a loli") a serious case of Did Not Do the Research I don't believe anyone who "Did Not Do the Research" uses any word other than pedophile.
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quote:that aren't even sexualized, at all quote:short, slender, and petannko with nice legs.
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That's not even right. In  , "lolicon" means someone into works like that, or is just plain synonymous with pedophile. It's just like how hentai means pervert, but people in the West use it to mean animated porn. Why can't they even get that right? They're wrong when they're already wrong!
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Elysiume posted:Hmm time to examine the chest and legs of this eleven-year-old to determine whether they're a loli. Yup turns out they have objectively Nice Legs But only objectively, it's not like they have some sort of complex about Lolitas or anything.
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Sep 14, 2014 22:00
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TvTropes Pleads the Fifth: If it's not porn, it's not lolicon
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Gen. Ripper posted:Oh for Christ's sake. Of course they had to throw in a scenario where the girl is an evil dirty manipulative slut toying with the poor helpless pedophile, because to do otherwise could imply that *gasp* there is something wrong with people who get boners over 12-year old girls!! (i.e. 90% of TVTropes). Tropers must think of themselves as intelligent, handsome pedophiles like Humbert or Roman Polanski and not the insane creepy nerds they are.
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Soulcleaver posted:Tropers must think of themselves as intelligent, handsome pedophiles like Humbert Humbert or Roman Polanski and not insane creepy nerds like Humbert Humbert and Roman Polanski actually are.
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Soulcleaver posted:It's the Humbert Humbert defense. "The child seduced me!" " Lolita/Headscratchers Im confuse, only watching the movies, did Lolita seduce H.H. or was that just in his head? I haven't seen the films, but the novel is intentionally ambiguous about it. H.H.'s main goal is to garner sympathy from the reader, so naturally he would try to convince us that "she made me do it". At the same time, it's entirely possible that at some point or another Lo did knowingly seduce him, and she was a bit of a troubled girl anyway. "
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Oh, my loving Christ, anyone who reads Lolita and thinks it's about anything other than child abuse needs to be melted down and sold for the value of their body's chemicals. How the gently caress could you take "maybe she seduced him" away from the book? Or either of the movies? Jeremy Irons was practically leering at the camera, and although James Mason's performance was subtle, Kubrick framed and lit every shot to make him look like Dracula.
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Apparently enough people missed the point of the novel to create a billion-dollar animation industry based on the concept of reeeeeally not getting it.
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lets move on from pedophiles Of all the fetishes to not find totally strange and creepy (while at the same time not having said fetish), did it have to be Nazi fetishists? To me, it makes sense because...well, really; tall, blond, blue-eyed Germans in uniform...you just know someone made a propaganda ad to encourage support for Nazism. And it worked. I'm just wondering why I don't consider it that weird... As a kid growing up in the 1990s, the most skin I would ever glimpse on a girl would be from the stomach when a shirt rode up - hence my midriff fetish. The TV shows on at the time were Power Rangers and Sailor Moon, which frequently featured mind control plots. Cue my mind control fetish. This troper agrees with the above, but also brings up the theory that it's tied to one's upbringing, and that during teenage years when the brain is all rewired (as mentioned above), some things are changed from being pleasing to being... pleasing. I grew up always building cities out of Lego and Hot Wheels toys, and ended up a macrophiliac.
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Lolita is only ambiguous if you are an incurious credulous idiot completely unaware of the concept of an unreliable narrator and also unable to read the subtext of Humbert justifying himself to the reader. So basically a troper.
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corn in the bible posted:Of all the fetishes to not find totally strange and creepy (while at the same time not having said fetish), did it have to be Nazi fetishists? To me, it makes sense because...well, really; tall, blond, blue-eyed Germans in uniform...you just know someone made a propaganda ad to encourage support for Nazism. And it worked. I'm just wondering why I don't consider it that weird...
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AlbieQuirky posted:Oh, my loving Christ, anyone who reads Lolita and thinks it's about anything other than child abuse needs to be melted down and sold for the value of their body's chemicals. So...they'd be worthless, then? quote:Why would anyone admit to this poo poo? Because tropers? Penny Paper fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Soulcleaver posted:Why would anyone admit to this poo poo? It's like sex offenders having to report to their neighbors but online.
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corn in the bible posted:lets move on from pedophiles Lolita film/book review by Esmé 31st Oct 13 Read it while you're young enough... ...for it not to be too weird that you found that book to be the hottest thing since toasted bread. As a 15 year old I read a book about a girl who, in theory, at any point I could be going out with. Compared to the likes of Crime and Punishment this is short and easy to read. The story is rad. It touches on everybody(?)'s innermost worry at that age other than their sexuality, namely "That girl who is about 12 looks awfully pretty. But she's 12. Oh no, I must be a paedophile (it's a hebephile, anyways)." This book just makes you more worried. Humbert is a creep, but at this stage you wonder if you could become just like him. The book is brilliantly intense for the first half but once things get a bit more spread out in terms of locale and time period I found it to lose its power in the middle. It gets better again quickly. Especially the travel montage. It did not further the plot and you know it's true. My first sentence was a little misleading. There is sex, but all of it is implied, your dirty thoughts filling in the blanks, *wink*? The writing is incredible, with many various references but a solid display of advanced literary techniques like giving the verbs in order to swap a more dramatic or, in this case, jarring, effect. Okay, that was a terrible attempt, it is used properly in the book. I enjoyed the whole contrast of the beauty of the outside appearance of America versus the seediness of within it and the way that it was all very subtly led in. Because of the way Humbert is the narrator we get a very stilted view of who Lolita really is which helps us to feel worried as to whether the entire concept of her kidnapping and regular rape is really just "no biggie" for her. Nabokov realises this, and so every so often he makes a comment suggesting how wrong Humbert is. I liked especially the time in which Lolita thinks that Humbert is asleep and starts to cry. No, I found it very distressing, but you know what I mean. The conclusion is satisfying if you worked out all of this Quilty chase business. I had no idea what was going on which made it less so. Make sure to read the preface because it helps resolve plot points, and again afterwards, just in case you missed something. It is a very good book. It is sexy, but don't be put off by that, because it is both a classic and readable - a rarity.
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